Rakehellion
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Ditto. Got rMBP 13'' recently, but I really love the size
I got the 15" which hasn't been updated, so no refund for me.
Ditto. Got rMBP 13'' recently, but I really love the size
For people whining about the ports, this ain't 1995. File transfers, sync, and video are all things you can do wirelessly. I haven't used a USB stick since I discovered Dropbox.
And VGA? Really? You bought a $1300 Mac but you're still using granddad's CRT.
Do you have a source for that?
I'm waiting for Skylake anyway, but that would be another reason to wait.
For people whining about the ports, this ain't 1995. File transfers, sync, and video are all things you can do wirelessly. I haven't used a USB stick since I discovered Dropbox.
And VGA? Really? You bought a $1300 Mac but you're still using granddad's CRT.
It is strange but I get this comment once in a while. I would think people on a tech board would know better. Really, you've never heard of people giving presentations away from home, using a client's or a school's or a conference centre's VGA business projector? Laptops are mobile computers after all. In fact if I had to choose one or the other, I'd choose VGA over HDMI for this usage.For people whining about the ports, this ain't 1995. File transfers, sync, and video are all things you can do wirelessly. I haven't used a USB stick since I discovered Dropbox.
And VGA? Really? You bought a $1300 Mac but you're still using granddad's CRT.
amazing how asus can put 3 full size usb ports on the ux305fa but apple can only fit one usb type-c on the new macbook.
Apple laptop thickness: 13.1mm
asus laptop thickness: 12.3mm
I got the 15" which hasn't been updated, so no refund for me.
usb3 /= usb3.1
It is strange but I get this comment once in a while. I would think people on a tech board would know better. Really, you've never heard of people giving presentations away from home, using a client's or a school's or a conference centre's VGA business projector? Laptops are mobile computers after all. In fact if I had to choose one or the other, I'd choose VGA over HDMI for this usage.
You (should) be happy to know that the USB 3.1 Type-C connector is substantially smaller than any of its predecessors. Considering the thinner ASUS laptop manages 3 such full-size 3.0 ports, it's not much of an excuse on Apples part.
If you're in that kind of environment, you're also probably surrounded by idiot co-workers or co-students who still use USB sticks (or insert any other outdated technology here), then this obviously isn't the laptop for you at this moment in time.
USB 3.1 is completely different from USB 3.0. It isn't just a different size.
The ASUS is weighs more
and uses a different chipset.
A better comparison would be to the MacBook Air.
If you're in that kind of environment, you're also probably surrounded by idiot co-workers or co-students who still use USB sticks (or insert any other outdated technology here), then this obviously isn't the laptop for you at this moment in time.
I'm not sure why people are having such a hard time accepting this machine. It's not like Apple axed the MBP or even the MBA... they are just putting it out there to say "this is the future and we can offer it now". They are pushing people to simplify their set up, and not to be cliche, they are pushing people to think different.
Apple always gets criticized when they expose futuristic ideas way too early, but a few years later we all end up wondering who the hell is still using these things. Right now it may seem like USB and video ports are necessary, but in the near future almost all of that will be wireless. Hell, it already is if you have an Apple environment. It's called AirDrop and AirPlay. Yes they can both be quirky still, but the idea is there and when it works it's magnificent. If the Mac continues to pick up steam vs PCs, you can be assured that environments will adapt to Apple devices, not the other way around.
Long story short, business projectors and everything else in the near future will be wirelessly connected.
Irrelevant. A customer can decide whether or not they want a single USB 3.1 Gen 1 (same speed as USB 3.0) port and nothing else, or if they want multiple USB 3.0 ports, direct video outs, card readers, and other fare. Just because they have decided to move forward with a singular port does not remove them from scrutiny. Given how Mac Sales tend to be, I don't think this will hurt them at all. The fact remains that they can't use chassis thickness as an excuse for a lack of full-size USB 3.0 ports. They can come up with nearly anything else, but chassis size isn't want of them.
Yep, ~.6 pounds more. Definitely a valid comparison point. It's also .5mm thinner, and comes with a screen that is just a little taller but also has nearly 1.5" of extra width.
Good luck with that. Wireless has been around for a long time now, but there's a reason why people and especially businesses still use wires. Like you said, wireless is "quirky", while cables work.
The new MacBook doesn't have ports because it looks better, saves weight, and costs less to make. So they save money making it, and Apple gets to sell 100$ dongles for everything. The other problem is it's using a Core-M cpu, so it's slower than the current Air.
No, wireless is not quirky, those protocols are quirky. Two completely different things. Both Wifi and Bluetooth have evolved to the point that they can MORE than adequately replace cables, if the person who set up the network knows anything about RF. Businesses still use wires because they are too cheap to implement the latest technologies. VGA is a prime example of this.
If I got this laptop, it'd be with the dongle, which includes USB 3.If you're in that kind of environment, you're also probably surrounded by idiot co-workers or co-students who still use USB sticks (or insert any other outdated technology here), then this obviously isn't the laptop for you at this moment in time.
I never use AirPlay. I hate it, and I have lots of AirPlay-capable devices.I'm not sure why people are having such a hard time accepting this machine. It's not like Apple axed the MBP or even the MBA... they are just putting it out there to say "this is the future and we can offer it now". They are pushing people to simplify their set up, and not to be cliche, they are pushing people to think different.
Apple always gets criticized when they expose futuristic ideas way too early, but a few years later we all end up wondering who the hell is still using these things. Right now it may seem like USB and video ports are necessary, but in the near future almost all of that will be wireless. Hell, it already is if you have an Apple environment. It's called AirDrop and AirPlay. Yes they can both be quirky still, but the idea is there and when it works it's magnificent. If the Mac continues to pick up steam vs PCs, you can be assured that environments will adapt to Apple devices, not the other way around.
Long story short, business projectors and everything else in the near future will be wirelessly connected.
Wireless is used for convenience/cost reasons (you do realize it's cheaper to build a WiFi network than a wired one?), while cables are more reliable. Debate it all you want, it's simple physics.
If I got this laptop, it'd be with the dongle, which includes USB 3.
I never use AirPlay. I hate it, and I have lots of AirPlay-capable devices.
There's your .6 pounds.
Clearly apple did not want to go this route.
Irrelevant. A customer can decide whether or not they want a single USB 3.1 Gen 1 (same speed as USB 3.0) port and nothing else, or if they want multiple USB 3.0 ports, direct video outs, card readers, and other fare. Just because they have decided to move forward with a singular port does not remove them from scrutiny
Given how Mac Sales tend to be, I don't think this will hurt them at all. The fact remains that they can't use chassis thickness as an excuse for a lack of full-size USB 3.0 ports. They can come up with nearly anything else, but chassis size isn't want of them.