I see some members (
@Blockheadfan) of these forums go on a downvoting spree
which looks vile and mean and might indicate someone's insecurity, lack of intelligence and bigotry but I'm not a judge.
Meanwhile:
- Multiple pre X570 motherboards have troubles running Ryzen 3000 CPUs. MSI boards are affected the most (Do Not Buy for Ryzen 3000 Series!! Incompatible and Stripped of Bios Features, July 31, 2019).
- There are issues running RAM at designated speeds (e.g. 3200MHz even if a motherboard officially supports such memory).
- High temperatures at idle are still not fully resolved.
- There are no good inexpensive motherboards for Ryzen 3000 CPUs because they are only properly supported by the X570 chipset.
- Absolutely most X570 motherboards have active chipset cooling which can be loud and very annoying. And they are relatively expensive.
- No one even talks about this issue here on these forums but literally hundreds of people say that POST may take up to a minute.
I've noticed a lot of people on Anandtech rate posts not based on their content but based on their attitude towards the poster or the content, so I expect multiple downvotes for this message as well. Some moderators have gone as far as to approach me via PM because I erased the title of this topic. Meanwhile no one cares that people are openly mocking and scoffing at me here. I guess it's just OK and totally fine.
Some recent examples:
Pure mockery:
Never said or implied that:
Personal attacks:
Negated by the fact that multiple B450 motherboards do not boot/work with Ryzen 3000 CPUs. Just check Reddit/MSI Gaming.
I guess my desire to buy a non-expensive system without serious issues is something out-worldly as indicated by these forums. I'm terribly sorry for not being well-off. Didn't know that was required for participation.
And I'm running a Core 2 Duo based system right now because as
I've already mentioned I already sold my
perfectly stable Intel Core i5 2500 based rig with which I
had zero issues even though I bought the motherboard and the CPU
on launch. Not a single booting issue, not a single memory compatibility issue, not a single stability/temperature issue. It was rock solid. My system POSTed in under two seconds (time between powering on and loading an OS). I guess that's something too much to ask from AMD.
I presume AMD is still considered an underdog that's why you must avoid saying anything bad (even if it's based on facts) about their products but pardon me, I don't care about underdogs, I care about products. Even six members of these forums
regret their purchase which is 16% of the people who've voted which is far from zero.
I hoped we would have a decent discussion here but some people just cannot contain themselves without directly or indirectly attacking me. And while moderators closely follow my actions, they choose to overlook whatever is thrown at me - and most of the posts I've quoted have nothing to do with the discussion, IOW they are simply off-topic.
What a great community we have here. And I politely asked this topic to be deleted almost a week ago. After leaving the forums for four days I've received further eight downvotes without saying anything. Again, an amazing community.
Dear AMD aficionados,
I apologize for casting doubt on your wonderful company. I will not do that again. Please accept my apologies.