That may be true for someone flipping burgers. For people pulling in a decent wage? Not so much.
Just as there are people who buy the fastest video card every year, there will be others who want the additional performance promised by Sandy Bridge, regardless of the cost.
My 4870 is around 50% vs 100% for 570.
Not 3 times.
And even 2 times is questionable as the benchmark you showed is not an average but ADDED averages of random tests they ran.
"threw them together and calculated the relative performance of each card"
If they did an average, it would be more accurate IMO.
That does not = 2-3 times faster.
Sure if they add 20-30 tests to that test the gap would be even wider.
So true but you have to remember there are alot of children on this forum that still live with their parents.
Sandy Bridge Review
http://en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=7944&pageid=7672
Uh...how has a lot changed if 2 years ago we had i7's running at 4Ghz...and now two years later we still have i7's running at 4Ghz? Sandy Bridge isn't out yet so basically the last two years have mostly seen intel working on new processes and stuff like Clarksdale with integration of the GPU. As far as peak performance goes very little has changed and someone who bought an i7 920 2 years back and overclocked it would still have one of the fastest systems around.If anything, more has changed in the last 2 years than in a LONG time. Sure the ghz has not progressed a lot, but i7's have essentially been a 4ghz part for over two years now, and SB is promising closer to 5ghz.
My 4870 is around 50% vs 100% for 570.
Not 3 times.
And even 2 times is questionable as the benchmark you showed is not an average but ADDED averages of random tests they ran.
"threw them together and calculated the relative performance of each card"
If they did an average, it would be more accurate IMO.
That does not = 2-3 times faster.
Sure if they add 20-30 tests to that test the gap would be even wider.
Question about the onboard video. While I game, I tend to stick to older generations of video games so I won't have to deal with expensive and power hungry GPUs. Will this be able to run the onboard video during 2D and keep the video card idling to save power?
Question about the onboard video. While I game, I tend to stick to older generations of video games so I won't have to deal with expensive and power hungry GPUs. Will this be able to run the onboard video during 2D and keep the video card idling to save power?
Great responses in the thread...thanks to everyone!
I guess I have almost made it!
HOW MANY MORE DAYS??????????????????????????
Onboard video has two significant reasons that makes it lower power than discrete video.
-Shared memory
-No additional PCB
Unless they are completely turned off, even the best power managed chips use some bit of power even when idle. On a discrete card, you need to manage those chips and the components that manage those chips use little power as well.
On laptops the integrated video systems use 10-20% lower power than the lowest power discrete video systems. On desktops you have no choice to have a switchable graphics so you are screwed.
To what? Paper launch, hard launch, or the moment you turn on the power on your new rig?HOW MANY MORE DAYS??????????????????????????
Good points. However since the IGP on SB is far better than most current offerings it'll be interesting to know how much less power draw it'll have compared to say a 5450.
12. In the meantime I suggest you have a drink. Many drinks. :thumbsup:
Alright. New system build? Honestly. i7. Everything is CHEAP compared to the sandy bridge upgrade path. You can just use the savings to buy a nice case (Lasts forever if you take care of it) and or your video card.
Right now you can get a Sabertooth and 12gb of DDR3 Ram for 295 bucks! Sick.
An i7 with a decent cooler and a modest overclock will get you very far. I wouldn't do SandyBridge unless you wanted to overclock and do Folding/Encoding.
Right now my rig in the sig crushes most games as is. It's actually pretty sad. I built the computer to be top of the line at the time and there are no games that really push it (Or are worth pushing it).
Build now with i7. The bugs have been worked out, and the prices are cheap and efficient. The Sandy bridge will have future upgrade paths however you will be at the bleeding edge.
Everything LGA 1156 & LGA 1366 will be even cheaper next week as etailers try to clear out inventory. Furthermore you shouldn't recomment LGA 1156 to people at all, it's dead. LGA 1366 at least is used in servers and has hexa-core support/options.
Alright. New system build? Honestly. i7. Everything is CHEAP compared to the sandy bridge upgrade path. You can just use the savings to buy a nice case (Lasts forever if you take care of it) and or your video card.
Right now you can get a Sabertooth and 12gb of DDR3 Ram for 295 bucks! Sick.
An i7 with a decent cooler and a modest overclock will get you very far. I wouldn't do SandyBridge unless you wanted to overclock and do Folding/Encoding.
Right now my rig in the sig crushes most games as is. It's actually pretty sad. I built the computer to be top of the line at the time and there are no games that really push it (Or are worth pushing it).
Build now with i7. The bugs have been worked out, and the prices are cheap and efficient. The Sandy bridge will have future upgrade paths however you will be at the bleeding edge.
I'm not recommending sandybridge.
I'm recommending LGA 1366.
Dark Shroud is correct, you shouldn't. It is honestly stupid to recommend it at this point for a new build. Your statements are not even defensible.
You are wrong about prices. Please read the thread, or do your homework on the prices on the current prices of 1366 mobos/procs.
You are wrong about performance. Why on earth are you recommending people spend the same money or more for less performance?
You are also wrong because of the upgrade path potential...as in it's a dead end.
Pretty awful post.
Post like this SEEM to make sense and kinda make me second guess...Hmmmmm
Dark Shroud is correct, you shouldn't. It is honestly stupid to recommend it at this point for a new build. Your statements are not even defensible.
You are wrong about prices. Please read the thread, or do your homework on the prices on the current prices of 1366 mobos/procs.
You are wrong about performance. Why on earth are you recommending people spend the same money or more for less performance?
You are also wrong because of the upgrade path potential...as in it's a dead end.
Pretty awful post.