Grats man. How much did you win?
Cool infographic on Warriors 73 wins.
Jordan Era:
This was the most unbalanced period of the post-1974 era. The trend of decreasing parity continued from the previous era with an average FFR standard deviation of 5.51. As expansion continued, there were simply not yet enough NBA-caliber players waiting to fill the additional spots from the 6 teams added between 1988 and 1995. 1998 saw the least balance of any post-74 season, in that season, five teams finished with -8 FFR or lower, “led” by the Nuggets at -13.04.
3pt Era:
Our current era is mostly known for the prevalence of the 3-pt shot. Three attempts per game skyrocketed after the 2012 lockout season. To remain competitive, teams are having to become smarter with shot selection to maximize efficiency, increasing shots at the rim and 3-pt attempts and decreasing inefficient midrange shots. Interestingly, there appears to be a correlation between total 3-pt attempts per game and FFR Standard Deviation. As more teams are increasing their 3-pt attempts, the competitive advantage is diminished as more teams are subject to the nightly variance of making or missing shots. The Warriors were the lone elite team in 2015 with a +10.26 FFR, second highest since the 1997 Bulls, just behind the 2008 Celtics5. With no other elite teams, and no teams that finished with worse than a -10 FFR (Knicks were close at -9.89), parity was at an era-high this past season.
The league seems to be trending towards more parity at the moment with the most recent season having the most parity in the era, and that is something that should be encouraged.
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/...rd-parity-76ers-wins-lakers-kings-suns-010516But perhaps the most compelling argument comes from the lowly Philadelphia 76ers. As pointed out by Reddit user DrPass, all four of Philly's wins this season have come against Western Conference foes -- the Lakers, Suns, Kings, Blazers and Wolves.
No, the Sixers' wins this year are a good example of the metrics that definitively show that the Warriors played in one of the toughest eras, ever. Your baseless posts without proof don't add anything to the discussion. Show us your math that the Warriors play in an easier era than the Bulls. You cannot because the Warriors simply play in a tougher NBA, and yes we can mathematically compare eras using linear regressions and standard deviations by wins and quality of those wins. The Bulls lost to 5 top-10 teams in an easier era, the Warriors set the all time NBA record against top-10 teams with only 2 losses in one of the toughest eras ever.so....the existence of 4-win teams that manage to beat the studs a few times in one game out of a season = parity?
lol. just goes to show: people pull bullshit stats and metrics out of their shit-filled asses to make any kind of nonsensical argument that they feel entitled to make.
Look within.Seeing them walk away without a ring this year would be fantastic therapy.
glad to see that jordan > curry from that graphic!
also the bulls seemed to dominate more teams than the warrios did (just based on the graphic that is) even with 1 less win.
that 3 pt stat is pretty f'ing crazy, damn.
i still think doing what the bulls did at their time was MUCH tougher than doing it in the current NBA.
glad to see that jordan > curry from that graphic!
also the bulls seemed to dominate more teams than the warrios did (just based on the graphic that is) even with 1 less win.
that 3 pt stat is pretty f'ing crazy, damn.
i still think doing what the bulls did at their time was MUCH tougher than doing it in the current NBA.
You just can't compare because MJ was at a time in the league that you could put your hands on players. The overall game was much more physical. Steph Curry would not be able to make all these shots back then. Steph is the right player at the right time right now.ESPN's summary of the Warrior's 73 wins:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:15213278
Like Steve Kerr said, this record is akin to the Dimaggio hit streak in baseball and Kerr said he didn't think anyone would ever break the Bulls record in his lifetime.
Steven A and Skip on Steph/Golden State:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:15202466
Steven A: "Curry is the greatest shooter I have ever seen... without him Golden State would be in the 40 win range, not 50, 60, and dam sure not 70."
Steph is a better shooter than MJ, better passer than MJ, better ball handler than MJ, and better scorer. Yes, MJ was an elite scorer but he took waaaaay more shots to get it than Steph and Steph can hit a 3 from anywhere on the court. He almost made a 90 footer in win #70. We've never seen an offensive weapon like this who can dribble/pass/shoot at such an elite level.
MJ never won MVP and then the next year was the most Improved Player in the NBA from the last season. Let's keep it real here, Steph is the most improved player breaking his own record 286 threes in 2015 to 402 in 2016. MJ has never done something like this which is why Steph is the greatest scorer of all time in my book, maybe only Wilt playing against much shorter white guys rivals his ability to score at will.
ESPN's summary of the Warrior's 73 wins:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:15213278
Like Steve Kerr said, this record is akin to the Dimaggio hit streak in baseball and Kerr said he didn't think anyone would ever break the Bulls record in his lifetime.
Steven A and Skip on Steph/Golden State:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:15202466
Steven A: "Curry is the greatest shooter I have ever seen... without him Golden State would be in the 40 win range, not 50, 60, and dam sure not 70."
Steph is a better shooter than MJ, better passer than MJ, better ball handler than MJ, and better scorer. Yes, MJ was an elite scorer but he took waaaaay more shots to get it than Steph and Steph can hit a 3 from anywhere on the court. He almost made a 90 footer in win #70. We've never seen an offensive weapon like this who can dribble/pass/shoot at such an elite level.
MJ never won MVP and then the next year was the most Improved Player in the NBA from the last season. Let's keep it real here, Steph is the most improved player breaking his own record 286 threes in 2015 to 402 in 2016. MJ has never done something like this which is why Steph is the greatest scorer of all time in my book, maybe only Wilt playing against much shorter white guys rivals his ability to score at will.
Curry being greater than MJ is some crazy shit. Steph is the best player today and could go down as top 10 all time if he keeps this up but he is VERY MUCH a product of today's league. Put him in the 80s or 90s and his production would suffer.
So you're saying the league is not as good today as it was in the 80's and 90's? Is it the players are not so good or is it the style of play isn't as good? If the later then why have the coaches changed the style to be worse? What rule changes can you blame for making the game worse?
The 80's and 90's were more low post stuff with poor shooting big men like Shaq. Steph brings the fast/agile/dead-eye shooting little guys back into the game as they were in the 70's and I think that's a great thing. I'd much rather watch Steph drain a 3 from 40 feet than watch Shaq bull his way into the paint, step up on his tippy toes, and drop the ball through the hole.
Brian
So you're saying the league is not as good today as it was in the 80's and 90's? Is it the players are not so good or is it the style of play isn't as good? If the later then why have the coaches changed the style to be worse? What rule changes can you blame for making the game worse?
The 80's and 90's were more low post stuff with poor shooting big men like Shaq. Steph brings the fast/agile/dead-eye shooting little guys back into the game as they were in the 70's and I think that's a great thing. I'd much rather watch Steph drain a 3 from 40 feet than watch Shaq bull his way into the paint, step up on his tippy toes, and drop the ball through the hole.
Brian
So you're saying the league is not as good today as it was in the 80's and 90's? Is it the players are not so good or is it the style of play isn't as good? If the later then why have the coaches changed the style to be worse? What rule changes can you blame for making the game worse?
The 80's and 90's were more low post stuff with poor shooting big men like Shaq. Steph brings the fast/agile/dead-eye shooting little guys back into the game as they were in the 70's and I think that's a great thing. I'd much rather watch Steph drain a 3 from 40 feet than watch Shaq bull his way into the paint, step up on his tippy toes, and drop the ball through the hole.
Brian
Who said worse? It's a different league today and rules favor agile guards. Today's NBA isn't worse or better in my opinion just different. However, that also means the rules today allow for a different style of play to flourish than that of decades past which is to Curry's advantage.
If he played 20-30 years earlier he'd have a much harder time as opposing players could hand check him and more physical play at the rim was allowed.
"You can't even touch a guy now," says Charlotte coach Larry Brown. "The college game is much more physical than our game. I always tease Michael [Jordan], if he played today, he'd average 50."
No, because he would be pounded all the time. The play was much more physical. So you'd rather watch a jump shot ala Steph then watch masterful bucket penetration by MJ? Really?
Curry is a skinny midget. MJ is an athletic Greek god. The fact that curry plays close to or maybe even better than Jordan is mind boggling. So by default Curry's game is much more impressive.
No, because he would be pounded all the time. The play was much more physical. So you'd rather watch a jump shot ala Steph then watch masterful bucket penetration by MJ? Really?
I dunno, but it's a helluvalot easier to score today then back then.
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/david_aldridge/04/22/aldridge.defenses/
No, I'm not saying Steph is an overall better player because MJ's PER is higher (better rebounder, defender). Steph is a better offensive weapon/scorer/playmaker due to better dribbling penetration and passing to the open man (assists). Are you fuckers that illiterate? It was clearly spelled out in my post.Curry being greater than MJ is some crazy shit. Steph is the best player today and could go down as top 10 all time if he keeps this up but he is VERY MUCH a product of today's league. Put him in the 80s or 90s and his production would suffer.
Yeah, Chuck Daly of the Detroit Pistons fame is lamenting the rules aren't the same that his team used -- and abused. The rules began to limit the rough stuff when MJ was in the game and some would argue the rules were tightened BECAUSE MJ was in the game. The Bulls didn't fare too well against the Pistons when outright thugery was part of the game and it was only after they began to limit the physical stuff that MJ and the Bulls took over.
So, saying MJ would score 50 today is laughable, but during the heyday of the Pistons MJ didn't score very much against them.
So, the question is, do you want to go back the the rough stuff that made it difficult for players like MJ to shine or do you think that style of play is best left to the Octagon and the Rink?
Brian
Since 1990, the NBA has instituted a series of rules changes to increase the offensive player's flow and make physical play costly. First came increased penalties for flagrant fouls (1990) and fighting (1993), the implementation of the "five points" rule that called for automatic suspensions of players who amassed a certain number of flagrants (1993). Hand checking was eliminated in 1994. Using the forearm to defend players facing the basket went away in 1997.