Is Steph Curry already the best shooter in NBA history?

[SP33Demon]

Longest career shot? If you make something beyond half court do you automatically win the championship? What the hell does that matter?

Again, after ONE FUCKING SEASON let's crown Curry the ultimate offensive weapon, his accomplishments dwarf Jordan's, blah blah blah.

Look up the term sophomoric. I may as well argue Santa isn't real to a 5 year old.

And nothing you just stated refuted anything from my statement. It isn't just "one fucking season" it's two. He has set the 3pt shot record in two consecutive seasons. If the 3pt shot is the ultimate weapon, then Curry is the greatest offensive weapon, period.

Greater than MJ in these areas:
1) Shoot from anywhere on the court? Check.
2) Quicker shot release and less likely to get blocked? Check.
3) Better dribbler? Check.
4) Better passer and court vision? Check.
5) Just as good a finisher when driving? Check.
6) More efficient scorer? Check.
7) Better single season team? Check.
8) Played in an era with better parity? Check.

MJ better in these areas:
1) Rebounding.
2) Defense.
3) Minutes Played.
4) Clutch shots.
5) MVPs.
6) Rings.
7) PER (better overall player).

3 of those things are cumulative with years played (clutch shots, mvps, rings). Curry will catch up soon enough.

The fact that GS lost to the rockets tonight not only reinforces Curry's value, but shows what kind of parity we are looking at.

 

[Ns1]

And nothing you just stated refuted anything from my statement. It isn't just "one fucking season" it's two. He has set the 3pt shot record in two consecutive seasons. If the 3pt shot is the ultimate weapon, then Curry is the greatest offensive weapon, period.

Greater than MJ in these areas:
1) Shoot from anywhere on the court? Check.
2) Quicker shot release and less likely to get blocked? Check.
3) Better dribbler? Check.
4) Better passer and court vision? Check.
5) Just as good a finisher when driving? Check.
6) Better single season team? Check.
7) Played in an era with better parity? Check.

The fact that GS lost to the rockets tonight not only reinforces Curry's value, but shows what kind of parity we are looking at.

Well, when Curry has 6 rings he can be considered GOAT.

 

[SP33Demon]

Steph is better offensively than MJ. What's MJ's longest career shot?

WTF does range have to do with longest career shot?



Depending on era. When you neuter defenders on the perimeter it becomes more valuable. When there is a lack of dominant big men (like Shaq, Hakeem, Ewing, Mourning, the Admiral, etc.) to allow more perimeter attention it gets a lot easier/more room to play outside.



It means Jordan was stronger, had more stamina, and was a lock down All NBA defender who stayed on the court not just to be a scorer but to dominate both ends of the court at all times in a games progress.



NFL passing took off once they changed the rules to encourage more offense. It isn't like the 3pt shot is a new concern, it wasn't the tool it is now because it wasn't as efficient in the past due to the rules.

Funny thing about offense is Jordan's offensive game was much more versatile. He could shoot, drive, post up, etc.

But what do I know, I only watched him play.

Dominant big men are a thing of the past. Guys like the unibrow are the future (lighter more versatile big men) since 3pt shooting percentages are going up and big men are going to have to guard the perimeter more and more. The reason that 3pt shooting wasn't the tool back then that it is today is that nobody could shoot it with consistency until Steve Nash showed up and an offense could be based around it.

I agree, MJ did have more stamina than Steph which is why he was better all around. Steph playing 6 more mpg would be a spectacle to behold.

 

[SP33Demon]

Well, when Curry has 6 rings he can be considered GOAT.

Yeah. I also added things that MJ was better at to my post. Also forgot to add that Steph is a better shooter in all phases (3pt, 2pt, free throws).

 

[child of wonder]

And nothing you just stated refuted anything from my statement. It isn't just "one fucking season" it's two. He has set the 3pt shot record in two consecutive seasons. If the 3pt shot is the ultimate weapon, then Curry is the greatest offensive weapon, period.

Greater than MJ in these areas:
1) Shoot from anywhere on the court? Check.
2) Quicker shot release and less likely to get blocked? Check.
3) Better dribbler? Check.
4) Better passer and court vision? Check.
5) Just as good a finisher when driving? Check.
6) More efficient scorer? Check.
7) Better single season team? Check.
8) Played in an era with better parity? Check.

MJ better in these areas:
1) Rebounding.
2) Defense.
3) Minutes Played.
4) Clutch shots.
5) MVPs.
6) Rings.
7) PER (better overall player).

3 of those things are cumulative with years played (clutch shots, mvps, rings). Curry will catch up soon enough.

The fact that GS lost to the rockets tonight not only reinforces Curry's value, but shows what kind of parity we are looking at.

Timmy, Santa Claus isn't real. That really is mommy and daddy putting the presents under the tree. No, he can't fit down the chimney; we don't even have a chimney. Think about it, how could he possibly visit every house in one night? Stop crying. OK. OK. OK! Fine, Santa is real, now will you just go to bed?

You're delusional. Yes, it is ONE season unless you're arguing last year with his 24 ppg already propelled him into "the best offensive weapon of all time" status which is beyond ludicrous. You're also assuming very, very heavily on the fact that no team will ever devise a strategy against Curry and his numbers will perpetuate into eternity until "the greatest offensive weapon of all time" either gives out to boredom or father time.

You're no different than the mouth breathers that went on about Kobe being a better scorer than MJ after his 35 ppg season where he scored 81 points.

Sophomoric child babbling.

Get back to us when Curry has repeated last season several times, won a few more rings, and then a legitimate discussion can be had. Until then you're just mentally masturbating over a projection in your head.

 

[purbeast0]

Steph is better offensively than MJ. What's MJ's longest career shot? I bet Steph beat it more than once in this season alone. MJ can dunk and drive all he wants, the 3pt shot is the ultimate offensive weapon in basketball.

Also keep in mind that Steph is playing less minutes than MJ. Have you looked at the Per 36 Minutes stats? Steph averaged 31.7points this year. MJ? Has only beat this ONCE (his 3rd year) where he scored 37.1ppg and needed over 40 minutes per game to get it. What does this mean? MJ had to play more minutes to surpass Steph's 31.7 Per 36 minute mark for every year but one, the extra minutes didn't even help (MJ's next closest was his 4th year at 31.2). Steph only played 34.2 minutes per game this year to put things into perspective.

The 3pt shot is simply more efficient and the definitive equalizer, Steph is playing 6 minutes less per game than MJ yet beating him when you break scoring down per minute. Don't be surprised if Steph breaks his 402 mark next year.

LMAO! who the fuck CARES about that lol. wwooww!

this thread is now like the jelly of the month club.

 

[purbeast0]

And nothing you just stated refuted anything from my statement. It isn't just "one fucking season" it's two. He has set the 3pt shot record in two consecutive seasons. If the 3pt shot is the ultimate weapon, then Curry is the greatest offensive weapon, period.

Greater than MJ in these areas:
1) Shoot from anywhere on the court? Check.
2) Quicker shot release and less likely to get blocked? Check.
3) Better dribbler? Check.
4) Better passer and court vision? Check.
5) Just as good a finisher when driving? Check.
6) More efficient scorer? Check.
7) Better single season team? Check.
8) Played in an era with better parity? Check.

MJ better in these areas:
1) Rebounding.
2) Defense.
3) Minutes Played.
4) Clutch shots.
5) MVPs.
6) Rings.
7) PER (better overall player).

3 of those things are cumulative with years played (clutch shots, mvps, rings). Curry will catch up soon enough.

The fact that GS lost to the rockets tonight not only reinforces Curry's value, but shows what kind of parity we are looking at.

lol that is a retarded list. you could add other things to jordans too if you want to fluff it up like you did with curry's.

Jordan:
8. better hangtime? check
9. taller? check
10. could dunk from the foul line? CHECK!

 

[ponyo]

Steph is better offensively than MJ. What's MJ's longest career shot?
Dominant big men are a thing of the past. Guys like the unibrow are the future (lighter more versatile big men) since 3pt shooting percentages are going up and big men are going to have to guard the perimeter more and more. The reason that 3pt shooting wasn't the tool back then that it is today is that nobody could shoot it with consistency until Steve Nash showed up and an offense could be based around it.

There were plenty of great shooters before Nash who could shoot 3 but didn't. If Mark Price played today, he would light it up.

 

[purbeast0]

There were plenty of great shooters before Nash who could shoot 3 but didn't. If Mark Price played today, he would light it up.

dan marejle's range was before it's time.

https://youtu.be/Vbtym28v0Gg?t=135

 

[thesmokingman]

It's so obvious this guys knowledge of the league only goes back two years. The rest is youtube videos and things he pulled oput of his ass.

 

[SP33Demon]

There were plenty of great shooters before Nash who could shoot 3 but didn't. If Mark Price played today, he would light it up.

Mark Price? Now y'all are just trolling. Price would be blocked every other shot due to a much slower release and midget status (6-0). We already had a great shooting playmaker (way better than Price) and his name was Nash and he said Steph is the most skilled player ever.

You should listen to not only Nash but other great shooters of past era's on Steph.

Dennis Scott:

Scott, who was one of the league’s first dedicated three-point marksmen and at one time owned the NBA’s all-time record in threes made in a season (267, back in 1995-96), told CSN Bay Area’s Monte Poole that a bit of jealously likely goes into any dismissal of Curry’s brilliance:

“They couldn’t do it,” Dennis Scott said Tuesday. “It’s just that simple.

“That’s why we shooters are not mad at him.”

Scott then went on to discuss the hypocrites who railed at the supposed lack of shooting over the last decade and a half (when, in fact, three-point percentages had been steadily improving, prior to dropping off slightly as teams take more and more threes over the last few years), and how they seem to be unhappy and quick with criticism no matter what:

“We used to say the art of shooting has gone away,” Scott said. “Steph is bringing the jump shot back. Michael Jordan had everybody trying to jump to the rim. The And-1 era had everybody dribbling too much. The point of the game is to put the ball in the hole. And Steph is bringing that back.”

Chris Mullin (1/3 of Run TMC):

"One hundred percent the best shooter all-time," Mullin said of Curry. "No question. It's beautiful. First of all, he's the best shooter of all-time, but he's much more than that. He commands so much attention. A lot of times, other guys are getting triple-doubles because of the attention he gets. He'll get the hockey assists just because they'll double him so early. It might be two passes later, but it really started with him.

Mitch Richmond (1/3 of Run TMC):

“I don’t put it past him that he can reach 500 [made three-pointers in one season. ... We can’t argue anymore about who is the best shooter, or anything like that."

Tim Hardaway (1/3 of Run TMC):

"I have not seen anyone with a quick trigger like he has. Extremely quick. It's not how quick he gets it up, but how accurate he is with the jumpshot over people. You've gotta give it to the guy. It's tough to guard him cause he go by you, make a left hand make a left hand layup, he can make a floater. And you know he wants to shoot that 3 and you know he wants to shoot that 3 and it's hard to stop him from shooting that 3. But to answer your question, no I have not seen a basketball player in my career or now that has a quick trigger like that off the dribble and can shoot from anywhere on the court."
https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmnba/...he-dribble-on-stephen-currys-shooting-prowess

Ray Allen (current all time 3pt leader):

"Based on what he's done, I think he has to be—he's on his way to being the best ever. It's always arguable, based on who's telling the story… He's creating a lane all of his own. People comparing him to me, to Reggie [Miller]. But I think Steph is in a category of his own."
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/r...gory-as-a-shooter-162170/#PCA8EucyXLLFqQGc.99

Isiah Thomas:

"I wouldn't want to be defending one of those guys [Steph or Irving] because... I mean, that's the kind of play [Re: Steph breaking Chris Paul's ankles with a crossover] that makes you mad... that's the kind of play that on the next time down the court... [implying flagrant foul] DOWN GOES CURRY!

https://youtu.be/qXyFLHE4-I8


Shaq:

"He's something that I haven't really seen. I really haven't seen a small guard dominate like he did.

Jason Kidd:

"He's this generation's Jordan. We all wanted to be like Mike, and children today will grow up seeing Steph."

Clyde Drexler:

"Steph is a phenomenal player. I love to watch him play. He is a shot-maker. In today's game, there is more emphasis on shooting the three-pointer. I think that efficiency will never go out of style, but if you can hit the long three-ball with good efficiency, then you can shoot it."

Scottie Pippen:

.@christianlotion I haven't seen anyone better. Only way to stop Steph is to keep the ball out of his hands. Make his teammates beat you.
9:38 PM - 10 Mar 2016
and
4/10/2016 @StephenCurry30 showed why he's the MVP. As cold blooded shooter as I've ever seen and a basketball IQ that is off the charts.

Reggie Miller:

Miller, who has respectfully watched and admired as his own unofficial title of the NBA’s pre-eminent marksman has been usurped by both Ray Allen and Curry, spoke of as much with Charles Curtis at For the Win:

“As old time guys and former players, we have to embrace change. It’s hard for old players to embrace change because whether you played in the 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, [we all had] different rules. Basketball has evolved and it has changed,” he said. “Change is good and we’ve got to embrace Steph and what he’s doing."
[…]
“You’ve got a team that shoots a lot of threes that’s almost as brash as those Bulls teams and we don’t want to accept that. We’ve got to let that go,” Miller said. “We don’t want to let go of Michael Jordan. It’s okay! He will still be great. ... It’s just that there’s a new kid on the block.”

If he can beat his own record for most threes in a season, then you've got to consider him one of the best ever.” [Which he already did this year]

Y'all need to let go of MJ. Listen to the guys who actually played in that era and know greatness when they see it. It's okay to like the new kid on the block. I was just like you guys with the #23 jersey and the jordan clothing but it's time to embrace the new era of the 3pt shot.

 

[Miramonti]

This thread has gotten way to fanboish and self-masturbatory. To marginalize the GOAT and what he's accomplished in order to prop up someone who's had a couple years on top is nothing short of desperate and juvenile. What Curry might be able to do and what he's actually done is universes apart (for better and for worse). But to date, he isn't even in the same breath with what MJ accomplished over his career. Steph had a great year this year yet didn't accomplish shit that would put him in the conversation as the greatest professional basketball player of all time. Not even close, and I don't think there is a sane and knowledgeable basketball mind on the planet that would dispute that. (And beyond regular season, how many Finals records has Curry set?...)

Does he have the furthest range in nba history? Yes, but 3 points is 3 points, even if it's from another zip code. Could he be shooting the ball better than anyone has ever done it in this short of a span?..possibly. Could he eventually have the greatest shooting career in history? It's possible, if he stays healthy and doesn't rip his acl's or destroy his ankles again, and plays at peak-performance even after his physical prime. Or, he could die tomorrow (not my wish) and as a result maybe not even make the HOF without a sympathy vote. But to boast of his abilities after only a couple strong years (which of course followed multiple mediocre years), as if his body of work to date are 'goat-worthy accomplishments' in the nba, is irrational.

 

[smackababy]

Curry has yet to lead his team when it mattered in the NBA finals once, let alone 6 times. Hell, Curry could have not even shown up last year and the Warriors would have won.

Curry's career average is pathetic to be considered the greatest offensive player of all time (and he's yet to do that when it actually mattered). Putting up 30+ average against a bunch of nobodies is cute, but putting up 30+ average in the NBA finals is where real greats display their skills.

If Curry died right now, he'd not be in the HoF. Two spectacular seasons ain't shit.

And, there ain't a person on the planet that would take a 28 year old Curry over a 28 year old MJ. Sorry, but the ability to shoot quick 3s is nice if you have everyone else doing the defensive work for you, but nobody wants a 1 way player.

 

[Adrenaline]

From Jordan's wiki page:

6× NBA champion (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
6× NBA Finals MVP (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
14× NBA All-Star (1985–1993, 1996–1998, 2002, 2003)
3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998)
10× All-NBA First Team (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
All-NBA Second Team (1985)
NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1988)
9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1988–1993, 1996–1998)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1985)
10× NBA scoring champion (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
3× NBA steals champion (1988, 1990, 1993)
2× NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (1987, 1988)
NBA playoffs all-time leading scorer
Chicago Bulls all-time leading scorer
No. 23 retired by Chicago Bulls
No. 23 retired by Miami Heat
3× AP Athlete of the Year (1991, 1992, 1993)
2× USA Basketball Male Athlete of the Year (1983, 1984)
NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team
NCAA champion (1982)
2× Consensus first-team All-American (1983, 1984)
National college player of the year (1984)
ACC Player of the Year (1984)
No. 23 retired by the University of North Carolina

From Curry's wiki page:

NBA champion (2015)
NBA Most Valuable Player (2015)
3× NBA All-Star (2014–2016)
All-NBA First Team (2015)
All-NBA Second Team (2014)
NBA scoring champion (2016)
NBA steals leader (2016)
50–40–90 club (2016)
NBA Three-Point Contest champion (2015)
NBA Sportsmanship Award (2011)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2010)
AP Athlete of the Year (2015)
Consensus first-team All-American (2009)
Consensus second-team All-American (2008)
NCAA Division I scoring leader (2009)
2× SoCon Player of the Year (2008, 2009)

For PER, here is the first thing it says under the section "Problems with PER":

PER largely measures offensive performance.

The part that stands out to me is the bolded. When Steph can accomplish that on defense, I can look at him the same way as Jordan.

Is Steph the best shooter I have seen play basketball? Yes he is. The rule changes have helped open the floor more over time, but wow, can he shoot the ball.

Michael Jordan's NBA Finals averages.

I feel Jordan was robbed of some MVP awards that were given to other players. I also feel that the Bulls would have won eight in a row had Jordan not retired after his father's death. Six straight full NBA seasons, six straight NBA titles and six straight NBA Finals MVPs.

Who was NBA Finals MVP in 2015? Andre Iguodala.

I won't take anything away from Steph. Why are you taking anything away from Jordan when he proved it time and time again?

Let Steph win six titles with at least three NBA Finals MVPs along with about seven or more NBA All-Defensive First Team honors. I do not see Steph anywhere on this page. When Steph starts running himself ragged on defense and wears down offensively, lets see what he can do. Until then, I will admire a great shooter, perhaps the best shooter I have ever seen for what he has done and what I hope he can become.

I heard this on the radio a few weeks ago and found it interesting:

Also, every single person that has won the NBA MVP and been eligible for the Hall of Fame has been enshrined. This trend should continue until Derrick Rose retires.

 

[Miramonti]

NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1988)
9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1988–1993, 1996–1998)

Jordan is a top 5/10 defensive player all time, while Curry's not even top 50...among point guards alone. Must be nice to save up that much energy for 30 footers.

 

[thesmokingman]

It would be interesting to see what happens when it's Pippen or Jordan marking him. If only...

 

[chitwood]

Would the 96 Bulls beat the 2016 Warriors in a 7 game series?

 

[thesmokingman]

Would the 96 Bulls beat the 2016 Warriors in a 7 game series?

Is that a trick question? :sneaky:

 

[tynopik]

Would the 96 Bulls beat the 2016 Warriors in a 7 game series?

96 rules or 16 rules?

 

[SP33Demon]

This thread has gotten way to fanboish and self-masturbatory. To marginalize the GOAT and what he's accomplished in order to prop up someone who's had a couple years on top is nothing short of desperate and juvenile. What Curry might be able to do and what he's actually done is universes apart (for better and for worse). But to date, he isn't even in the same breath with what MJ accomplished over his career. Steph had a great year this year yet didn't accomplish shit that would put him in the conversation as the greatest professional basketball player of all time. Not even close, and I don't think there is a sane and knowledgeable basketball mind on the planet that would dispute that. (And beyond regular season, how many Finals records has Curry set?...)

Does he have the furthest range in nba history? Yes, but 3 points is 3 points, even if it's from another zip code. Could he be shooting the ball better than anyone has ever done it in this short of a span?..possibly. Could he eventually have the greatest shooting career in history? It's possible, if he stays healthy and doesn't rip his acl's or destroy his ankles again, and plays at peak-performance even after his physical prime. Or, he could die tomorrow (not my wish) and as a result maybe not even make the HOF without a sympathy vote. But to boast of his abilities after only a couple strong years (which of course followed multiple mediocre years), as if his body of work to date are 'goat-worthy accomplishments' in the nba, is irrational.

Yes, most Hall of Famers are fanboys of Curry. Your opinion < Run TMC, Dennis Scott, Isiah, Ray Allen, Nash, Shaq, Pippen, Kidd, Drexler, and Reggie. And there's eons more who say he's not only the greatest shooter of all time but also a talent they've never seen before. The majority of these guys all played with MJ. Are they lying? Nobody is saying he's greater than MJ but that he was a better shooter than MJ as well as passer, dribbler, and quickest release in history to boot. It only confirms what I've been saying all along in this thread.

Hell let's pull some more quotes out of the machine.

1) Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant:

Who's the toughest NBA player to guard right now? Kobe: "It has to be Steph Curry. Has to be. Moves so well w/o the ball, great in isos."

and

When the shots u take r the shots the defense wants u to take but r the shots ur comfortable taking #curryriddle
1:10 AM - 22 May 2015

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on...ms-up-stephen-currys-brilliance-with-a-riddle

2) David "The Admiral" Robinson:

"Steph is something I haven't seen before. We're being treated to something very special."
- David Robinson
11:26 AM - 11 Feb 2016

3) Allen "The Answer" Iverson:

"That dude, that light-skinned dude. Ahhhhh, man. I never seen anything like this in my life. I was a certified serial killer, but this dude has it all. He got the jumper, his handles is what it is ... God man. This dude right here is unreal."
and
"He's incredible. He's different. He's different. He's something we've never seen. We've never seen this. It's crazy to me, like just me being the biggest Michael Jordan fan, to see somebody come around like this. I have my idea of me being incredible, you know what I mean? But this dude right here, like it's different. It's a whole different monster, as far as his handle and the way he shoots? C'mon. You know you ain't never seen nothing like this."

https://youtu.be/Dm9QL-xaKUk

4) Julius "Dr. J" Erving
"The simulator [of steph that teams use] can't measure up. It just doesn't look real. He's been doing things on the court that really don't look real to the naked eye. I have to give him kudos for that."
https://youtu.be/Dm9QL-xaKUk?t=42

5) "Thunder" Dan Majerle:

&#8220;I&#8217;ve never seen anything like it. The difficulty of the shots he takes, people keying in on him, his ability for his range to put it on the floor, especially at his size &#8211; I&#8217;ve never seen anything quite like it.&#8221;
...
&#8220;I&#8217;m amazed at the skill level he has, the way he can shoot,&#8221; Majerle said. &#8220;I think he&#8217;s the best shooter ever to shoot a basketball.&#8221;

6) Kevin "KJ" Johnson:

Ayo... Stephen curry is not from planet earth...
11:08 PM - 13 May 2015

7) Lebron "King" James:

@StephenCurry30 needs to stop it man!! He's ridiculous man! Never before seen someone like him in the history of ball!
11:34 PM - 27 Feb 2016
and
LeBron James was asked Friday what it will take to slow down league MVP Stephen Curry.
"Well, the same way you slow me down," James said. "You can't."
"I think a lot of people don't understand how great his motor is. He never stops moving. His ballhandling, his ability to shoot the ball off the dribble and off the catch. It's uncanny. I don't think there's ever been a guy in the league to shoot the ball the way he does off the dribble or off the catch, off the ball.

http://abc7news.com/sports/how-to-slow-mvp-stephen-curry-you-cant-lebron-james-says/755068/

8) Grant Hill:

&#8220;It&#8217;s hard for some people to accept, because he&#8217;s so little,&#8221; said Hill, a seven-time All-Star and two-time NCAA champion. &#8220;We&#8217;ve been sort of brainwashed to think that you have to be big and strong, and that the exciting players are the jumpers and dunkers and people who play above the rim.

&#8220;Now you&#8217;ve got this little guy who is making everybody look foolish. It&#8217;s almost like people think he and the Warriors are a gimmick, like it&#8217;s not real. I&#8217;m like, &#8216;Look, they&#8217;ve very real, and this style of play is here to stay.&#8217;&#8221;

&#8220;It&#8217;s very unusual to have a guy who is the MVP come back this much better,&#8221; Hill said. &#8220;I don&#8217;t know if we&#8217;ve seen this much improvement from one year to the next from an MVP. If you didn&#8217;t have C.J. McCollum having the year he&#8217;s having, you could argue that Steph Curry is also the Most Improved Player.

&#8220;The confidence that he&#8217;s playing with, the things that he&#8217;s doing, how he&#8217;s dominating: It&#8217;s remarkable and efficient. It&#8217;s almost like he&#8217;s playing with people out there. He&#8217;s doing whatever he wants.

He might be the best player ever.&#8221;

http://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/Ex-NBA-All-Star-Grant-Hill-a-believer-in-Curry-6872771.php

9) Dirk Nowitzki:

What do you think of what you're seeing from Steph Curry right now?

Dirk Nowitzki: I mean, I don't think this league has ever seen anything like it. His range is basically as soon as he crosses half court. He's making shots look routine that no other player can even make in practice consistently. He just makes it look effortless. He just kind of goes up from the dribble in one motion, doesn't waste any effort there. Incredible.

He's so much fun to watch. When he's in the zone, I catch myself screaming at the TV, 'Shoot! Shoot!' as soon as he crosses half court. It's so much fun to watch.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page...h-big-fan-stephen-curry-golden-state-warriors

10) Chauncey "Mr. Big Shot" Billups:

"And his handle? Unbelievable, man. Unbelievable. Some guys that shoot it that well, they can't get you off them if you pressure because their handle isn't good enough. But you really can't pressure him. His handle is too slippery. And he's deceptive with his handle. He changes pace really, really well; starts and stops, then he might get the ball and just go. He's just so smart."
Billups laughs again and repeats: "I'm glad I'm watching from the sofa."

11) Patrick Ewing:

Q. If you were a head coach with your own franchise and you somehow could choose between LeBron James or Steph Curry to start a new team, who would you pick?
The way the game is played now, I&#8217;d take Steph.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sp...-says-blog/article64046382.html#storylink=cpy

12) John Havlicek:

"He'd be great wherever he played, regardless of the era," said Celtics legend John Havlicek, "because when you shoot the ball as well as he does, there's no stopping you."

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2016/04/boston_celtics_legends_bill_wa.html

13) Earvin "Magic" Johnson:

@StephenCurry30 has a chance to be the greatest player we've ever seen, if he plays at this level for the next 4-5yrs!
11:49 PM - 27 Feb 2016
...@StephenCurry30 also has a chance to be the most exciting player ever!
11:50 PM - 27 Feb 2016

14) Rick Barry:

"Steph is a statistical anomaly. ... I have never seen a player play the game with the skills and talents that Steph Curry has,&#8221; Barry said. &#8220;He&#8217;s as exciting a player as I&#8217;ve ever watched, he&#8217;s as enjoyable a player as I&#8217;ve ever watched and I really look forward to seeing him and this team play. It&#8217;s just remarkable. The guy is just so much fun to watch play. He&#8217;s one of those rare guys who&#8217;s truly worth the price of admission."

15) Tracy "T-Mac" McGrady:

[after Curry's deep 3 to win vs OKC] #whatyallgonnasaynow #any era getting buckets #unreal #iwannabelikechefcurry

16) Charles "Round Mound of Rebound" Barkley:

Which 1990s sharpshooters in heyday compare to Curry?

"Reggie (Miller). Ray Allen. Jeff Hornacek. Guys who were just great, great shooters Glen Rice. But Steph is probably the best shooter I've seen off the dribble. Ever."

17) Robert "Big Shot Rob" Horry:

Former NBA player Robert Horry was put on the spot during an interview with Justin Termine on SiriusXM NBA Radio when asked to choose between Stephen Curry and Kobe Bryant in his prime as the most dangerous offensive player.

Horry, who played six and a half years and won three NBA championships next to Bryant, surprisingly picked Curry.

&#8220;Kobe in his prime really wasn&#8217;t that great of a three-point shooter,&#8221; Horry said. &#8220;He was a drive, get-to-the-hole, dunk-on-you type of guy. Steph can drive and float you. He can shoot it from half court. You have to guard him at all times."

http://hoopshype.com/2016/02/05/rob...fensive-player-than-kobe-bryant-in-his-prime/

18) Kevin "The Big Ticket" Garnett:

KG on Curry: "Like Michael Jordan was a whole other thing, this guy is his own thing. It's beautiful for basketball."
2:06 PM - 12 Nov 2015

https://twitter.com/JerryZgoda/status/664882020879761408

19) Nate "Tiny" Archibald:

"I played against some of the best players in the world," Archibald told NBA.com in a phone interview. "I was in a dream world. I played against Oscar Robertson, Walt Frazier. I played against Jerry West and Earl Monroe. That was then. Now I interact with more kids than probably anybody else in the league," he added. "Doing my leagues, clinics, camps and stuff. I see so much potential in these kids. And Steph's jersey, like Iverson's jersey, is the hottest thing -- it's steamin'! He is -- and this is a 007 movie -- 'The Man With The Golden Shot.' "
...
"When Steph Curry catches the ball, he's in attack mode. He has a confidence in him that's unbelievable, OK? He's exuberating with confidence. You can see when he works out and he's doing the two-ball drill. I teach kids that, where you get the rhythm and the confidence. Between the legs, behind the back -- I teach that with high school and college guys. Why two basketballs? Cuz it's got you concentrating."
...
"But there's another guy I played against, if the 3-point shot was in, he would probably have averaged about 50 points a game. And that's Jerry West. He reminds me of a combo guy like that.

http://www.nba.com/2016/news/featur...en-curry-play-and-game-golden-state-warriors/

20) Jerry "The Logo" West:

...calls Steph Curry "the most unique player I've ever seen." Says Curry replaced Magic for him in that regard.
7:11 PM - 7 Jun 2015
and
&#8220;Most people just talk about his ability to shoot the ball from deep, and obviously (he&#8217;s) the best I&#8217;ve ever seen, particularly under duress. He gets a lot of attention where a lot of three-point shooters kind of run into three-point shots and have other people getting in the lane. He creates these shots for himself.

21) Larry "Legend" Bird:

"Isiah (Thomas) used to go by you in a heartbeat too, but Isiah couldn't shoot like this kid," Bird said of Curry. "This kid has a little of everything going to rim -- the floaters, the banks."
"For deep range, I don't know if there's anybody better. What a weapon a shooter like Curry is that with the green light (from his coach)," Bird said. "Missing one or two means nothing to him. He just goes back deeper. He can make you look bad in a hurry. This kid's got to go down in history as one of the greatest shooters who ever played our game."

http://www.cleveland.com/livingston/index.ssf/2016/01/larry_bird_has_never_seen_a_sh.html

22) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar last week:

"I don't think we've ever seen anybody with his kind of range. It doesn't seem like any attempt he makes is too far for him. That's pretty incredible, I've never seen anyone with that type of talent. And he's a leader also for his team."

https://youtu.be/4op9ZLtK6oY

So all these Hall of Famers/futureHOFers or players during Jordan's era are full of shit, eh?

You said: Could he be shooting the ball better than anyone has ever done it in this short of a span? ...Possibly. Possibly? lmao. Have you seen what he just did to the 3pt record and how he did it? Possibly my ass. He is definitively shooting the ball better than anyone ever has, period. You don't break a three point record two years in a row by possibly shooting the best the league has ever seen. You don't get big names like the guys above drooling over you and throwing terms like "best shooter ever" or "chance to be the best/most exciting player ever" or "maybe the best ever" if you're not actually the best shooter ever and/or an incredible playmaker/scorer on offense. He is the modern day MJ, deal with it and just be happy you get to watch him live.

 

[Ns1]

Until he has 6 rings he's no MJ

 

[SP33Demon]

Jordan is a top 5/10 defensive player all time, while Curry's not even top 50...among point guards alone. Must be nice to save up that much energy for 30 footers.

Wrong, MJ isn't even in the top 18. :biggrin:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/dws_career.html

Curry just led the league in steals for the first time in his career but keep hating.

 

[Adrenaline]

Wrong, MJ isn't even in the top 18. :biggrin:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/dws_career.html

Curry just led the league in steals for the first time in his career but keep hating.

You are going to go off of that to tell how good a defender Jordan was? Looking by the list, is it defensive rebounds, block and steals that count? That is just like someone telling us PER determines how awesome an all around player someone is. The only SG / SF ahead of him on that list is John Havlicek. The NBA All-Defensive Team has been done since 1968-1969 and only two players have more total honors than Jordan.

I will just pull one name off that list ahead of Jordan:

Patrick Ewing

I saw Jordan abuse Ewing several times. Here is one you can enjoy as well.

There are others on that "list" ahead of Jordan that I think Jordan was better defensively than. I do not recall Jordan getting taken to the hole or shown up all that much.

Another one is Karl "My Elbows Fly Everywhere" Malone that I laughed when I saw that list. He made three first teams and one second team. Nicely done Elbows.

 

[purbeast0]

god damn this thread has gone past "eits RG3" levels of stupidity from SP33D.

please continue this shit is hilarious!

 

[purbeast0]

just came across this from the link above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL--gQ2AvJY

there is literally ZERO comparison with atleticism between jordan and curry. jordan is BY FAR a better athlete from that video alone.

and holy shit ... the #1 play in that highlight reel...