Is Steph Curry already the best shooter in NBA history?

[SP33Demon]

After his performance in these finals and a down 3-1 never done before come back I could see it being a valid argument. I put him above Kobe after tonight. He has a ways to go to pass Jordan, but it's doable if he has 2 or 3 more seasons like this one. And at worst he'll in the top 3 all time, and imho anyone who argues that isn't worth wasting my time discussing basketball with. And even though the Warriors aren't the best team ever like their crazy fans have been saying. They have an elite team and James took them down, which is a feat.

I suspect sp33Demon won't post again in this thread. I'll add this and be gone myself

James > Curry.

Uh no, James still shot shitty last night (9-24) and will never be anywhere near Curry's shooting career shooting percentages. A healthy Steph is still going to continue ravaging the league when healthy. It was obvious when Steph was having trouble finishing in the Finals that he's not 100%. Steph led the league in finishing in the paint and how many floaters did you see him make in the entire Finals, 1? That is his bread and butter and he used it once, maybe twice due to the fact that he couldn't drive like he normally does. Not to mention that his cutting ability to create shots and execute the PnR weren't there either. Not to mention that he couldn't hit a tunnel shot during the Finals which hadn't happened for 82 games.

So laugh it up, but Curry still crushed Lebron in the regular season when he was healthy and at full skill level and larger sample size. PER doesn't lie, and GS ain't going away anytime soon if Steph is healthy. If he's not healthy, then he would be the greatest shooter ever flash in the pan 2 time MVP.

 

[Printer Bandit]

 

[purbeast0]

Uh no, James still shot shitty last night (9-24) and will never be anywhere near Curry's shooting career shooting percentages. A healthy Steph is still going to continue ravaging the league when healthy. It was obvious when Steph was having trouble finishing in the Finals that he's not 100%. Steph led the league in finishing in the paint and how many floaters did you see him make in the entire Finals, 1? That is his bread and butter and he used it once, maybe twice due to the fact that he couldn't drive like he normally does. Not to mention that his cutting ability to create shots and execute the PnR weren't there either. Not to mention that he couldn't hit a tunnel shot during the Finals which hadn't happened for 82 games.

So laugh it up, but Curry still crushed Lebron in the regular season when he was healthy and at full skill level and larger sample size. PER doesn't lie, and GS ain't going away anytime soon if Steph is healthy. If he's not healthy, then he would be the greatest shooter ever flash in the pan 2 time MVP.

lulz.

when the warriors win and curry is on, steph is healthy.

when they lose and curry is off, steph is injured.

this guy is the jelly of the month club, the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

We're talking about a championship decided by a 4 point difference. Steph makes 5 more points and he is the goat and LeBron is an under achiever. Cavs win and LeBron is the goat and Steph is soft.

 

[smackababy]

We're talking about a championship decided by a 4 point difference. Steph makes 5 more points and he is the goat and LeBron is an under achiever. Cavs win and LeBron is the goat and Steph is soft.

Except we are not. Curry hasn't shown up the entire playoffs. And he didn't show up last year either.

 

[thesmokingman]

We're talking about a championship decided by a 4 point difference. Steph makes 5 more points and he is the goat and LeBron is an under achiever. Cavs win and LeBron is the goat and Steph is soft.

Curry scored 3 pts in the 4th quarter of Game 7. He's the greatest shooter of all time!

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Except we are not. Curry hasn't shown up the entire playoffs. And he didn't show up last year either.

He doesn't show up and they don't win last year and this year they don't get out of the wcf. His presence alone makes the warriors a better team. He attracts 2 or more guys at all times.

 

[digiram]

Curry scored 3 pts in the 4th quarter of Game 7. He's the greatest shooter of all time!

400 3 pointers in a season is still mind blowing man.

Anywho, yeah.. I put LBJ right behind MJ at this point. Still has ways to go, and even Steph still has a long way to go.

Now my Celtics need to nail it in this years draft or get Durant up in there, I mean he was supposed to be a Celtic anyhow.

 

[QueBert]

Uh no, James still shot shitty last night (9-24) and will never be anywhere near Curry's shooting career shooting percentages. A healthy Steph is still going to continue ravaging the league when healthy. It was obvious when Steph was having trouble finishing in the Finals that he's not 100%. Steph led the league in finishing in the paint and how many floaters did you see him make in the entire Finals, 1? That is his bread and butter and he used it once, maybe twice due to the fact that he couldn't drive like he normally does. Not to mention that his cutting ability to create shots and execute the PnR weren't there either. Not to mention that he couldn't hit a tunnel shot during the Finals which hadn't happened for 82 games.

So laugh it up, but Curry still crushed Lebron in the regular season when he was healthy and at full skill level and larger sample size. PER doesn't lie, and GS ain't going away anytime soon if Steph is healthy. If he's not healthy, then he would be the greatest shooter ever flash in the pan 2 time MVP.

LOL James shot better when it mattered. I'm going to have to go with better player > better shooter. And as far as the finals go, your boy wasn't even a better shooter. But he was a better shooter during 88 games. I'm assuming to you winning 88 games > a ring right?

right!

And according to ESPN stats,

Curry - 8.2 18.8 .438 4.4 11.0 .404 4.2 4.6 0.92 3.8 7.8 .486 1.337 0.56

James - 10.4 19.9 .525 1.5 4.5 .340 3.9 5.9 0.66 8.9 15.4 .579 1.324 0.56

The bold is FG percentage, not 3s sure, but for regular scoring James is better. And the 3's are a moot point seeing how James is on the team that leads the league in 3 pointers.

 

[zerocool84]

Uh no, James still shot shitty last night (9-24) and will never be anywhere near Curry's shooting career shooting percentages. A healthy Steph is still going to continue ravaging the league when healthy. It was obvious when Steph was having trouble finishing in the Finals that he's not 100%. Steph led the league in finishing in the paint and how many floaters did you see him make in the entire Finals, 1? That is his bread and butter and he used it once, maybe twice due to the fact that he couldn't drive like he normally does. Not to mention that his cutting ability to create shots and execute the PnR weren't there either. Not to mention that he couldn't hit a tunnel shot during the Finals which hadn't happened for 82 games.

So laugh it up, but Curry still crushed Lebron in the regular season when he was healthy and at full skill level and larger sample size. PER doesn't lie, and GS ain't going away anytime soon if Steph is healthy. If he's not healthy, then he would be the greatest shooter ever flash in the pan 2 time MVP.

Yea regular season because the Finals don't matter at all...... Two straight Finals in the row and he disappears. It shows he's not even in the discussion for GOAT.

 

[zinfamous]

He doesn't show up and they don't win last year and this year they don't get out of the wcf. His presence alone makes the warriors a better team. He attracts 2 or more guys at all times.

I agree with that, but it's not like players like Jordan and James or Bird disappeared in games when they were also attracting that kind of attention while making their teams better simply for being on the floor.

Steph really is a different kind of MVP*

 

[manly]

I agree with that, but it's not like players like Jordan and James or Bird disappeared in games when they were also attracting that kind of attention while making their teams better simply for being on the floor.

Steph really is a different kind of MVP*

I love LeBron and his body of work, but you clearly have no recollection of the 2011 NBA Finals.

And you can knock Steph's series performance but he's the main reason Draymond Green, Harrison Barnes and others get so many quality looks. So yes, Steph does make other players better even when he's not playing well. (Well, except for Barnes.)

 

[zerocool84]

Steph has only been to 2 Finals and disappeared in both. LeBron has been to 7 and has literally single handedly taken teams to Finals. Curry can't even show up for one.

 

[LikeLinus]

Uh no, James still shot shitty last night (9-24) and will never be anywhere near Curry's shooting career shooting percentages.

Yet here is where you show your pure ignorance for the game. Shooting percentage of a player is a single stat. You have to evaluate the complete game and what their contributions bring to the team. Take a look at the overall stats and let us know if you still believe Curry was a better player for his team, versus the contributions from James.

James - 29.7 PPG 11.2 REB 8.9 AST 2.3 BLK 2.6 STL 4.4 TO
Curry - 22.6 PPG 4.9 REB 3.7 AST 0.7 BLK 0.9 STL 4.3 TO

Anyone with half a brain will see that James' overall play contributed more points per possession to his team. He destroyed Curry in rebounds, assist, steals and blocks. The turnovers were within one tenth, so that's a wash.

So taking everything into account, what does Curry's shooting percentage really gain if he's contributing fewer TOTAL points per game of his team. I think at one point I saw James was responsible for 53 of 92 points at one point in the 4th quarter? So those rebounds, assist, blocks and steals actually generated MORE production and scoring opportunities, than say simply being able to hit a few more shots in fewer attempts.

Shooting percentage be damned, his team didn't lose after being up 3-1. He scored 41 points in two straight games and a triple double in the winning game. Whine about insignificant stats all you want and make excuses, but Cleveland made history and that's that.

Curry had a terrific season and one we might not see for awhile, but scoring under 20 points in 4 games in the NBA finals? Pretty much a fail all around.

 

[smackababy]

Yet here is where you show your pure ignorance for the game. Shooting percentage of a player is a single stat. You have to evaluate the complete game and what their contributions bring to the team. Take a look at the overall stats and let us know if you still believe Curry was a better player for his team, versus the contributions from James.

James - 29.7 PPG 11.2 REB 8.9 AST 2.3 BLK 2.6 STL 4.4 TO
Curry - 22.6 PPG 4.9 REB 3.7 AST 0.7 BLK 0.9 STL 4.3 TO

Anyone with half a brain will see that James' overall play contributed more points per possession to his team. He destroyed Curry in rebounds, assist, steals and blocks. The turnovers were within one tenth, so that's a wash.

So taking everything into account, what does Curry's shooting percentage really gain if he's contributing fewer TOTAL points per game of his team. I think at one point I saw James was responsible for 53 of 92 points at one point in the 4th quarter? So those rebounds, assist, blocks and steals actually generated MORE production and scoring opportunities, than say simply being able to hit a few more shots in fewer attempts.

Shooting percentage be damned, his team didn't lose after being up 3-1. He scored 41 points in two straight games and a triple double in the winning game. Whine about insignificant stats all you want and make excuses, but Cleveland made history and that's that.

Curry had a terrific season and one we might not see for awhile, but scoring under 20 points in 4 games in the NBA finals? Pretty much a fail all around.

Don't you know, making the single shot you take and having 100 FG percentage means you were the most effective scorer on the court that night.

 

[thesmokingman]

3 points in the 4th quarter of the Finals Game 7 = the best shooter of ALL TIME!

 

[Red Storm]

3 points in the 4th quarter of the Finals Game 7 = the best shooter of ALL TIME!

He could have had 0 points in game 7's entirety, he's still the best shooter of all time...

Unlike the MVP award, "best shooter" doesn't factor in winning/losing.

 

[Ackmed]

It factors that he shot like this in the finals, again. After shooting much better in the regular season. Scoring more, etc. Players legacies are made in the playoffs, not the regular season.

Calling him the best shooter is just idiotic. Bottom line.

 

[Miramonti]

It's sad when the mvp of the league's best shot during the nba finals was when he threw his mouth piece.

 

[DesiPower]

li'l bitch...

 

[smackababy]

It factors that he shot like this in the finals, again. After shooting much better in the regular season. Scoring more, etc. Players legacies are made in the playoffs, not the regular season.

Calling him the best shooter is just idiotic. Bottom line.

This. If your success doesn't carry over to when it matters, you're essentially a garbage time hero. Robert Horry didn't get his nickname making shots in games that didn't matter.

 

[preslove]

Lebron is the best player since Jordan and probs top 3 all time, after Jordan and Russell. He's a super upgraded Magic Johnson who can play any position.

Steph Curry is an upgraded Reggie Miller.

Lebron will have the better legacy, even if Steph gets more rings.

It's sad when the mvp of the league's best shot during the nba finals was when he threw his mouth piece.

lol

 

[zinfamous]

li'l bitch...

did Curry kill your dog or something? You really seem to have an irrational hard-on when it comes to hating Steph Curry for some reason.

 

[zinfamous]

Lebron is the best player since Jordan and probs top 3 all time, after Jordan and Russell. He's a super upgraded Magic Johnson who can play any position.

Steph Curry is an upgraded Reggie Miller.

Lebron will have the better legacy, even if Steph gets more rings.

l

upgraded Reggie Miller. I like that.

speaking of--where has Sp33d been? I know his top-2 man crushes have been having a very bad week so far. I hope the dude is OK. :\

 

[brianmanahan]

It's sad when the mvp of the league's best shot during the nba finals was when he threw his mouth piece.

ayyy