Is teleportation possible?

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: Injury
Time travel is not possible.

Time is a concept created by humans... it's merely a measurement of the earth's position in relation to the sun at any moment.

So as soon as you can possibly figure out how previous forms of us merely loop our lives over and over day by day in the past without it being apparent you won't even put a slight fingerprint in the discovery of time travel.

If time is a concept created by humans, then explain the relativistic effects of slowing time as the speed of light is approached. Time is a physical entity, as tangible as matter and energy and is fundamental to the fabric of the universe. Hardly a created concept - unless you assume everything is.

Exactly. I can't physically picture what time IS, but I know it's a real, tangible thing. It's been proven.

However, time cannot go backwards. Events, places, things, and situations are not directly tied to and move with time. You cannot visit the past. I believe there are other dimensions beyond the 3 (4) we are familiar with, and those dimensions might even exist around us with things in them we just can't view, but I don't believe other copies of US are living in those dimensions in different portions of our own lives. That just doesn't make any sense at all. Unless you believe that every time a junction in life occurs, every possibility happens at once and splits into two separate instances, but that's pretty far-fetched.

You can visit the future, but only by traveling near the speed of light yourself, so that the world passes you by in minutes, and then there's no way to get back. But who would want to do that?

Teleportation may be possible via quantum entanglement of every atom of your body, but the chances that we could ever devise a way to control that precisely and to reconstruct everything at the destination without ANY noticeable effects on the body's organs and brain are very VERY unlikely.

Look up the multiverse theory

 

[iversonyin]

Ze no possible!

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: Injury
Time travel is not possible.

Time is a concept created by humans... it's merely a measurement of the earth's position in relation to the sun at any moment.

So as soon as you can possibly figure out how previous forms of us merely loop our lives over and over day by day in the past without it being apparent you won't even put a slight fingerprint in the discovery of time travel.

If time is a concept created by humans, then explain the relativistic effects of slowing time as the speed of light is approached. Time is a physical entity, as tangible as matter and energy and is fundamental to the fabric of the universe. Hardly a created concept - unless you assume everything is.

So let me get this straight...

..you believe that if YOU (or whatever object you are attempting to make travel through time) start travelling faster than the speed of light, then the entire EARTH will somehow slow down and biologically everything on it will be reduced to a slower pace of life while this is happening?

Believe what you want, but AFAIC, time travel is just a dream that humans made up to give them the tiniest most minute shread of hope that their past ******-ups can be fixed.

 

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: Injury
Time travel is not possible.

Time is a concept created by humans... it's merely a measurement of the earth's position in relation to the sun at any moment.

So as soon as you can possibly figure out how previous forms of us merely loop our lives over and over day by day in the past without it being apparent you won't even put a slight fingerprint in the discovery of time travel.

If time is a concept created by humans, then explain the relativistic effects of slowing time as the speed of light is approached. Time is a physical entity, as tangible as matter and energy and is fundamental to the fabric of the universe. Hardly a created concept - unless you assume everything is.

So let me get this straight...

..you believe that if YOU (or whatever object you are attempting to make travel through time) start travelling faster than the speed of light, then the entire EARTH will somehow slow down and biologically everything on it will be reduced to a slower pace of life while this is happening?

Believe what you want, but AFAIC, time travel is just a dream that humans made up to give them the tiniest most minute shread of hope that their past ******-ups can be fixed.

Yes. As velocity increases, time dilation causes time for the subject to slow down relative to a stationary reference point. This has been tested. When astronauts leave earth, they experience less passage of time than we do while they're gone (though minute and only measurable with HIGHLY accurate clocks). Gravitational fields also create similar effects I believe.

Debating the nature of time and debating the plausibility of time travel are two very different things which you seem to be confusing. "Time" is much more than the measure of the position of the earth relative to the sun.

I'm guessing your biggest problem is that you're looking at time travel from a more classic sci-fi viewpoint. ie: you step into a machine and you're instantaneously in another time period. THAT scenario is unlikely. But due to time dilation, time travel, in a certain sense is possible.

 

[Tiamat]

electrons do it all the time. Fowler-Nordheim is a good "buzz word"

 

[BriGy86]

i heard that some scientists actually were able to teleport atoms or some extremely small amount of matter using magnetic fields.

I could be wrong though

 

[opticalmace]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: Injury
Time travel is not possible.

Time is a concept created by humans... it's merely a measurement of the earth's position in relation to the sun at any moment.

So as soon as you can possibly figure out how previous forms of us merely loop our lives over and over day by day in the past without it being apparent you won't even put a slight fingerprint in the discovery of time travel.

If time is a concept created by humans, then explain the relativistic effects of slowing time as the speed of light is approached. Time is a physical entity, as tangible as matter and energy and is fundamental to the fabric of the universe. Hardly a created concept - unless you assume everything is.

So let me get this straight...

..you believe that if YOU (or whatever object you are attempting to make travel through time) start travelling faster than the speed of light, then the entire EARTH will somehow slow down and biologically everything on it will be reduced to a slower pace of life while this is happening?

Believe what you want, but AFAIC, time travel is just a dream that humans made up to give them the tiniest most minute shread of hope that their past ******-ups can be fixed.

No, not faster than the speed of light--approaching it.
The person (object?) travelling at this high speed will not age at the same rate as those on Earth. In, let's say, 10 years of his travel, perhaps 60 have passed on Earth.

 

[LcarsSystem]

I forget where, but I read a story on how a group of scientists deconstructed an atom or part of one, and reconstituted it elsewhere using some form of light based energy beam or something. It was awhile ago so the details are sketchy at best. It's late and I'm tired so you can look it up yourself, however it is possible in principle. So for all you Star Trek haters, in your faces!

 

[ForumMaster]

some material was "transported" but what it does is destroy the original material, use photons to transport the data, then recreate it. if that is possible with humans, think of the medical possibilities. you could fix genetic problems, get rid of diseases and so on. but there is the ethical problem of destroying life and recreating it for all the Christians.

 

[LcarsSystem]

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
some material was "transported" but what it does is destroy the original material, use photons to transport the data, then recreate it. if that is possible with humans, think of the medical possibilities. you could fix genetic problems, get rid of diseases and so on. but there is the ethical problem of destroying life and recreating it for all the Christians.

Well then all we need to do is wipe them out first...

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: opticalmace

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: Injury
Time travel is not possible.

Time is a concept created by humans... it's merely a measurement of the earth's position in relation to the sun at any moment.

So as soon as you can possibly figure out how previous forms of us merely loop our lives over and over day by day in the past without it being apparent you won't even put a slight fingerprint in the discovery of time travel.

If time is a concept created by humans, then explain the relativistic effects of slowing time as the speed of light is approached. Time is a physical entity, as tangible as matter and energy and is fundamental to the fabric of the universe. Hardly a created concept - unless you assume everything is.

So let me get this straight...

..you believe that if YOU (or whatever object you are attempting to make travel through time) start travelling faster than the speed of light, then the entire EARTH will somehow slow down and biologically everything on it will be reduced to a slower pace of life while this is happening?

Believe what you want, but AFAIC, time travel is just a dream that humans made up to give them the tiniest most minute shread of hope that their past ******-ups can be fixed.

No, not faster than the speed of light--approaching it.
The person (object?) travelling at this high speed will not age at the same rate as those on Earth. In, let's say, 10 years of his travel, perhaps 60 have passed on Earth.

Okay... so how does that make time travel possible? Furthermore, has you or anyone been able to prove this?

 

[ForumMaster]

Originally posted by: LcarsSystem

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
some material was "transported" but what it does is destroy the original material, use photons to transport the data, then recreate it. if that is possible with humans, think of the medical possibilities. you could fix genetic problems, get rid of diseases and so on. but there is the ethical problem of destroying life and recreating it for all the Christians.

Well then all we need to do is wipe them out first...

:laugh: indeed. i'll try and find the link... i read it on howstuffworks.com

said link. interesting read.

 

[x471x]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: opticalmace

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: Injury
Time travel is not possible.

Time is a concept created by humans... it's merely a measurement of the earth's position in relation to the sun at any moment.

So as soon as you can possibly figure out how previous forms of us merely loop our lives over and over day by day in the past without it being apparent you won't even put a slight fingerprint in the discovery of time travel.

If time is a concept created by humans, then explain the relativistic effects of slowing time as the speed of light is approached. Time is a physical entity, as tangible as matter and energy and is fundamental to the fabric of the universe. Hardly a created concept - unless you assume everything is.

So let me get this straight...

..you believe that if YOU (or whatever object you are attempting to make travel through time) start travelling faster than the speed of light, then the entire EARTH will somehow slow down and biologically everything on it will be reduced to a slower pace of life while this is happening?

Believe what you want, but AFAIC, time travel is just a dream that humans made up to give them the tiniest most minute shread of hope that their past ******-ups can be fixed.

No, not faster than the speed of light--approaching it.
The person (object?) travelling at this high speed will not age at the same rate as those on Earth. In, let's say, 10 years of his travel, perhaps 60 have passed on Earth.

Okay... so how does that make time travel possible? Furthermore, has you or anyone been able to prove this?

Wow, so this is why some people opted out of physics and took geosystems in highschool.

When you approach the speed of light, the distance you travel is shortened by a factor of

sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2)

c being the speed of light and v being velocity.

This process would therefore lengthen i.e dialate your time.

TAKE PHYSICS PPL!!

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: opticalmace

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: Injury
Time travel is not possible.

Time is a concept created by humans... it's merely a measurement of the earth's position in relation to the sun at any moment.

So as soon as you can possibly figure out how previous forms of us merely loop our lives over and over day by day in the past without it being apparent you won't even put a slight fingerprint in the discovery of time travel.

If time is a concept created by humans, then explain the relativistic effects of slowing time as the speed of light is approached. Time is a physical entity, as tangible as matter and energy and is fundamental to the fabric of the universe. Hardly a created concept - unless you assume everything is.

So let me get this straight...

..you believe that if YOU (or whatever object you are attempting to make travel through time) start travelling faster than the speed of light, then the entire EARTH will somehow slow down and biologically everything on it will be reduced to a slower pace of life while this is happening?

Believe what you want, but AFAIC, time travel is just a dream that humans made up to give them the tiniest most minute shread of hope that their past ******-ups can be fixed.

No, not faster than the speed of light--approaching it.
The person (object?) travelling at this high speed will not age at the same rate as those on Earth. In, let's say, 10 years of his travel, perhaps 60 have passed on Earth.

Okay... so how does that make time travel possible? Furthermore, has you or anyone been able to prove this?

Get on a ship, travel at 99.999% the speed of light for a while, say a year. You get back to earth, slow down, and it is now the year 2247.

You can only travel forward in time this way. You can't ever go into the past.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: mariok2006
I just cannot wrap my mind around something physical just disappearing and being stored as another form of energy and then reconstructed in another location.

Fax machine?

youdont actually send the exact piece of paper, just an image of it is sent to another ocation and reprinted on a new piece of paper. i know, sounds like witchcraft, but its true!

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Lifted
Not if you're religious, unless you also believe the soul is material and can be "transported".

It's not possible even if you're not religious, troll. :roll:


You see, real non-Star Trek science has this thing known as the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, which essentially means that teleportation of anything with mass is scientifically impossible.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: opticalmace

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: Injury
Time travel is not possible.

Time is a concept created by humans... it's merely a measurement of the earth's position in relation to the sun at any moment.

So as soon as you can possibly figure out how previous forms of us merely loop our lives over and over day by day in the past without it being apparent you won't even put a slight fingerprint in the discovery of time travel.

If time is a concept created by humans, then explain the relativistic effects of slowing time as the speed of light is approached. Time is a physical entity, as tangible as matter and energy and is fundamental to the fabric of the universe. Hardly a created concept - unless you assume everything is.

So let me get this straight...

..you believe that if YOU (or whatever object you are attempting to make travel through time) start travelling faster than the speed of light, then the entire EARTH will somehow slow down and biologically everything on it will be reduced to a slower pace of life while this is happening?

Believe what you want, but AFAIC, time travel is just a dream that humans made up to give them the tiniest most minute shread of hope that their past ******-ups can be fixed.

No, not faster than the speed of light--approaching it.
The person (object?) travelling at this high speed will not age at the same rate as those on Earth. In, let's say, 10 years of his travel, perhaps 60 have passed on Earth.

Okay... so how does that make time travel possible? Furthermore, has you or anyone been able to prove this?

Imagine you are inside a spaceship travelling at 99.99% of the speed of light. You have a tennis ball and you throw it forward to bounce it off the bulkhead -- how does the tennis not then break the speed of light? Answer: because time itself is dilated.

edit: time is very real, but completely relative. And it only moves in one direction, like a river. Why? Who knows.

 

[k1pp3r]

Originally posted by: Quasmo
I thought they teleported light a few years ago.

They did, the teleported a laser beam 5 meters or something like that, they stated they were 5 to 10 years away from being able to teleport solid objects, i think that research was is the land down under

 

[Souless]

It has been proven that with intensive gravity such as a black hole time does seem like it slows down to the point where weeks can go by on the "outside"(area not effected by gravity) while hours go by near the source depending on how strong the gravitational field is.

 

[DougK62]

I read an article recently about researchers (I think in Europe) who split some type of atom and then separated the halves. They manipulated one half and the changes also appeared in the separated half. It was interesting.

 

[Alkaline5]

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
some material was "transported" but what it does is destroy the original material, use photons to transport the data, then recreate it. if that is possible with humans, think of the medical possibilities. you could fix genetic problems, get rid of diseases and so on. but there is the ethical problem of destroying life and recreating it for all the Christians.

Ignoring any potential moral implications, how would you feel on a personal level about being instantly obliterated in your current location and subsequently having an exact clone of yourself created elsewhere? The rest of the world would never notice, of course, but I would rather not potentially kill myself for the sake of allowing my clone to live a long and healthy life in my absence.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Alkaline5

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
some material was "transported" but what it does is destroy the original material, use photons to transport the data, then recreate it. if that is possible with humans, think of the medical possibilities. you could fix genetic problems, get rid of diseases and so on. but there is the ethical problem of destroying life and recreating it for all the Christians.

Ignoring any potential moral implications, how would you feel on a personal level about being instantly obliterated in your current location and subsequently having an exact clone of yourself created elsewhere? The rest of the world would never notice, of course, but I would rather not potentially kill myself for the sake of allowing my clone to live a long and healthy life in my absence.

Except that you would be your clone. That's not the issue.

 

[Aikouka]

I just teleported behind you, smacked you in the back of the head for writing this thread and teleported back to write this message. As to how I did it, it's like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop, the world will never know .

 

[KarmaPolice]

Eh i think it might be possible in the future. I rmemeber reading about something that people were able to teleport atoms from onelocation to another..that sounds like progress.

The problem with saying that its not possible is that no one is certain about that. We base so many things on theories that make sense to us now, but with time and future research may be proven to be wrong.

 

[clamum]

Like others have said, the influence of gravity or traveling extremely fast causes time dilation effects. I remember in physics learning that a clock on the top of a very tall building will run at a different speed (faster I believe) than one at the ground level, albeit at a very very tiny difference.