Is the Entire Mizzou Protest Based On Lies?

[TechBoyJK]

FYI, the nazipoopgate has some credibility to it, as there's an official police report where a cop says he saw the poop-art. No pics, but I can see how if it was spotted late at night they might have wanted it washed off asap.

but... with all the other crap (no pun intended), i can totally see this being a false flag event. make a hate symbol, lie about some kkk, get everyone riled up, hungerstrike = profit!

 

[fskimospy]

This is not proof of anything except that a police report was filed...you understand that, right?

And that the police report confirmed that it was there.

You understand that, right?

 

[brycejones]

wall o' text

#blackpeoplesaiditmustbefalse

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

And that the police report confirmed that it was there.

You understand that, right?

A police report confirms that someone reported an incident and does not necessarily mean that police responded or witnessed anything.

You understand that, right?

Edit: I see that they did indeed witness the swastika per Paratus' subsequent post. But the mere presence of a police report does not in itself mean that an officer was a witness.

 

[fskimospy]

A police report confirms that someone reported an incident and does not necessarily mean that police responded or witnessed anything.

You understand that, right?

Except in this case the report says they did.

You understand that, right?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Except in this case the report says they did.

You understand that, right?

Yep.

 

[HomerJS]

Still stands that the student president definitely fabricated the KKK story.

Seeing how bratty and attention starved these infant activists are, I wouldn't be surprised if the student president himself put up the swastika as a false flag.

Yet Fox News et-al will use this in an attempt to discredit all the racist incidents at the college. Normal M.O. for them

 

[TechBoyJK]

IIRC, the report actually says the cop saw the swastika.

 

[woolfe9998]

Pause while conservatives regroup. I predict that they will find a way to argue that the poop swastika didn't happen even though the cops said they saw it. Inconvenient facts like the police report will not interfere with the circle jerk. Don't worry, you can always argue it was a false flag by the victims themselves, because anything could be a false flag. It's quite obviously important to conservatives to "disprove" every allegation of racism because their central point has always been that racism does not exist anymore and they want to convince everyone of this.

 

[woolfe9998]

Yep.

Clearly you could have tried to be objective by reading the report before arguing that it didn't prove anything, but you didn't. Since you pounced on an opportunity to argue that the police report wasn't relevant without reading the report itself, I have to ask - what is your vested interest in proving this incident did not occur?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

The KKK on campus allegation from the student body President, of all people, was proven to be false. Attempting to get to the actual facts of these matters is not trying to "disprove" anything. Sheesh.

 

[cubby1223]

The way I see this situation, regardless of whether the events named happened or not, either way it is not justification for the protests and the ousting of the university president. Some of the usual forum members who enjoy insulting conservatives have jumped in on this thread because they sniff out a possible opportunity to, well, insult conservatives, a favorite past-time.

The question I'd like to know, do you guys believe the protests, even if these events were true, are justified, right, and proper? I like to get a baseline of what everyone feels, because this detail has not been addressed in any thread as of yet.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Clearly you could have tried to be objective by reading the report before arguing that it didn't prove anything, but you didn't. Since you pounced on an opportunity to argue that the police report wasn't relevant without reading the report itself, I have to ask - what is your vested interest in proving this incident did not occur?

I saw the first page of the report and believed that this was all there was. I didn't click the link which showed the officer's statement thinking that Patratus would have shown this in his post as well...my bad.

 

[zinfamous]

A police report confirms that someone reported an incident and does not necessarily mean that police responded or witnessed anything.

You understand that, right?

I see that they indeed did witness the swastika per Paratus' post. But the mere presence of a police report does not in itself mean that an officer was a witness.

Except in this case the report says they did.

You understand that, right?

Yep.

....and now I am confused. /Louis Black

Anyway, this thread is more entertaining than I expected. good job, P&N.

 

[zinfamous]

I saw the first page of the report and believed that this was all there was. I didn't click the link which showed the officer's statement thinking that Patratus would have shown this in his post as well...my bad.

OK, fair enough.

 

[LTC8K6]

Is a DNA test of the poop ongoing? You can ID the person that way.

Also, there has to be evidence pics taken. Pretty strange if no pics were taken when we have a police report.

It looks like the "hit by a car" demand may be false.

https://youtu.be/XIiovJ77vsg

 

[Subyman]

As a former student, I really don't have much ties to what the modern day Mizzou campus is like, or the region, but I'm sure it isn't much different.

There are tons of racist people in Missouri and a percentage of them are not shy about it. It's not just country-bumpkin racists, you have your liberal privileged racists from the big cities too. Black people getting called the N-word openly on campus, I'm sure has happened before (albeit rarely I'm sure, I never heard it said in a face to face manner) and happened for a long time.

I don't think the protests are just about the poop swastika, they are a combination of past events and also, about the treatment of grad students recently from administration. But something black people have to deal with, is that when they take a stand and make it a strong one, racists from all corners of the world will descend upon them to try and intimidate/humiliate them. When this story finally went national, I think it sort of caught people in a hysteria of fear. I honestly don't think the guy or gal who said KKK was on campus was doing so to spread fear. They probably heard somebody who heard somebody where it got blown out of proportion, and so they wanted to tweet about it. Since we are talking about older children basically, the way they say it is probably not the most effective way. "THE KKK IS LITERALLY OUTSIDE WITH GUNS RIGHT NOW!" or however it was said

The problem is that everyone is taking literally each tweet about an event as real and spiraling the situation out of control.

Overall, there is almost no logical need or fear of anger/violence over the situation at the school. This is a protest over systemic issues, and that's about as far I think as you can go. Everything else that is coming about, is either a context argument or argument over misinterpreted information.

It's not helping when you have school faculty trying to "help" the protestors and making the situation something way bigger and dangerous then it should be. Whoever told them to forcefully eject media/photographers should be fired immediately, they basically had them all commit serious civil rights violations.

This is a great post. It is hard to understand the "vibe" of a university without having gone there. It is hard to make a bullet point list of every grievance that causes that vibe. It happens over long periods of times and with events both big and small.

Take for example, I went to UIUC and never, ever heard anything racist or felt any strange racial vibe. Yet, a week at Ole Miss with my brother was completely different. I heard the N-word several times and even heard a white frat kid say racist remarks to an older black man, all that first hand. Stories of white kids berating both minorities and the disables were common. It was completely different than what I experienced during my college years at a different University.

So I don't disbelieve these students outright. There may be a bad vibe at that school that is hard to pin down with a few stories. I hope they can get it straightened out and get back to doing coursework. :thumbsup:

 

[HomerJS]

The way I see this situation, regardless of whether the events named happened or not, either way it is not justification for the protests and the ousting of the university president. Some of the usual forum members who enjoy insulting conservatives have jumped in on this thread because they sniff out a possible opportunity to, well, insult conservatives, a favorite past-time.

The question I'd like to know, do you guys believe the protests, even if these events were true, are justified, right, and proper? I like to get a baseline of what everyone feels, because this detail has not been addressed in any thread as of yet.

Yeah I get it. Those Negros should just shut up and be happy they are in Merica

 

[cubby1223]

Yeah I get it. Those Negros should just shut up and be happy they are in Merica

You're saying the protests are justified, then, correct? That the University President is responsible and should rightfully have been removed? Please elaborate on why you believe the University President is not fit for his job.

That's the information I'm curious about from various people.

 

[Exophase]

i think the real question here is, who in the fuck takes a shit picks it up and then proceeds to draw with it?

no one that's who.

well no one under the age of 2

Could have been someone using gloves or other instruments to make it less horrible. Or maybe just someone really inebriated.

Something that's been unclear to me is what makes this specifically a statement of racism against black people? Was the bathroom in a predominantly black dorm or black floor? Or is it because it happened in a climate of other incidents of racism against black people? Swastikas tend to be more associated with anti-semitism, and while I'm sure Mizzou has a lot more black people than Jewish people they do at least have a Hillel center.

 

[Drako]

Swasti-Caca has a better ring to it than Poop-Stika.

 

[buckshot24]

Could have been someone using gloves or other instruments to make it less horrible. Or maybe just someone really inebriated.

Something that's been unclear to me is what makes this specifically a statement of racism against black people? Was the bathroom in a predominantly black dorm or black floor? Or is it because it happened in a climate of other incidents of racism against black people? Swastikas tend to be more associated with anti-semitism, and while I'm sure Mizzou has a lot more black people than Jewish people they do at least have a Hillel center.

I thought about this as well. I came up with "skin heads" who use Nazi symbolism.

 

[buckshot24]

Swasti-Caca has a better ring to it than Poop-Stika.

Absolutely agreed!

 

[alien42]

Yep.

you are such a dimwit, it doens't matter how many times you are proven wrong, you will still argue an invalid and flat our wrong point.

 

[soulcougher73]

Hit It!
Nah, na na na nah
Here comes the Poop-Stika, murderer
I'm the lyrical gangster, murderer
Pick up the crew in-a de area, murderer
Still love you like that, murderer