Is the Entire Mizzou Protest Based On Lies?

[Doc Savage Fan]

Could have been someone using gloves or other instruments to make it less horrible. Or maybe just someone really inebriated.

Something that's been unclear to me is what makes this specifically a statement of racism against black people? Was the bathroom in a predominantly black dorm or black floor? Or is it because it happened in a climate of other incidents of racism against black people? Swastikas tend to be more associated with anti-semitism, and while I'm sure Mizzou has a lot more black people than Jewish people they do at least have a Hillel center.

I was thinking the same thing...why was this swastika considered to be racist against blacks? I always thought that it was considered more anti-Semitic than anything. Why aren't the Jewish students saying anything about this? There has to be more to the story.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Wait a minute this began because a Fraternity was having a "Cops & Crooks" themed party?

 

[HomerJS]

You're saying the protests are justified, then, correct? That the University President is responsible and should rightfully have been removed? Please elaborate on why you believe the University President is not fit for his job.

That's the information I'm curious about from various people.

The University President decided for himself he wasn't fit for the job. He resigned.

 

[buckshot24]

The University President decided for himself he wasn't fit for the job. He resigned.

That is a completely dishonest way to look at this. C'mon man, that can't be satisfying to you. He was under immense pressure to resign.

 

[buckshot24]

Wait a minute this began because a Fraternity was having a "Cops & Crooks" themed party?

That might have been Yale.

 

[HomerJS]

I was thinking the same thing...why was this swastika considered to be racist against blacks? I always thought that it was considered more anti-Semitic than anything. Why aren't the Jewish students saying anything about this? There has to be more to the story.

If you are hinting black are not the targets of hate at Mizzou there are more.

Another incident (Nov 12 2015) at the site of a "cotton ball" incident back in 2010.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...th_spray_paint_at_university_of_missouri.html

 

[Screech]

You're saying the protests are justified, then, correct? That the University President is responsible and should rightfully have been removed? Please elaborate on why you believe the University President is not fit for his job.

That's the information I'm curious about from various people.

There's more to that/those resignation(s) than simply the allegations of lack of leadership with regards to the racism issue, I think. One of those was that apparently they axed the health insurance for graduate students and told the graduate student union to deal with it, or something to that effect. Ignoring all the other allegations for a second (which may or may not be accurate), as both a graduate student myself (albeit not at mizzou) and one who is diabetic who relies on university health insurance as a pretty crucial key to, you know, survival, if my university just decided to end their health insurance policies and told me to take a hike I would be fucking livid. So even in that alone I can see a good argument for resignation.

 

[HomerJS]

That is a completely dishonest way to look at this. C'mon man, that can't be satisfying to you. He was under immense pressure to resign.

The completely honest way of looking at it if he had taken the complaints of black students over the years seriously instead of being completely dismissive we would not be here today.

 

[buckshot24]

If you are hinting black are not the targets of hate at Mizzou there are more.

Another incident (Nov 12 2015) at the site of a "cotton ball" incident back in 2010.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...th_spray_paint_at_university_of_missouri.html

What about the swastika?

 

[HomerJS]

What about the swastika?

You have to take the swastika in the context of all the other incidents.

 

[buckshot24]

The completely honest way of looking at it if he had taken the complaints of black students over the years seriously instead of being completely dismissive we would not be here today.

Maybe, but don't say the prez thought he wasn't up for the job because he resigned under pressure.

 

[sm625]

It is events like these that might finally turn the tide to bring true educational reform. These schools are infested by trash who dont want to learn. They want to be coddled from cradle to grave and have ZERO interest in living in a society where people work hard and act responsibly. It makes these school's degrees absolutely worthless. I would never hire anyone based on the possession of a degree from one of these failed institutions. They are merely worthless pieces of paper.

 

[buckshot24]

You have to take the swastika in the context of all the other incidents.

What is the president supposed to do?

 

[HomerJS]

Maybe, but don't say the prez thought he wasn't up for the job because he resigned under pressure.

If he had done his job there wouldn't have been pressure for him to resign. Therefore his resignation was triggered by him.

 

[HomerJS]

What is the president supposed to do?

He may not have been able to mitigate all the attacks but part of his job is to foster a safe climate for all and set an example. Its called being a leader and he failed miserably.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

If you are hinting black are not the targets of hate at Mizzou there are more.

Another incident (Nov 12 2015) at the site of a "cotton ball" incident back in 2010.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...th_spray_paint_at_university_of_missouri.html

No...I'm not hinting that blacks are not the targets of hate at Mizzou. I know that this may be difficult for you to understand....but I'm asking a simple question and was hoping that someone could answer it.

 

[woolfe9998]

Could have been someone using gloves or other instruments to make it less horrible. Or maybe just someone really inebriated.

Something that's been unclear to me is what makes this specifically a statement of racism against black people? Was the bathroom in a predominantly black dorm or black floor? Or is it because it happened in a climate of other incidents of racism against black people? Swastikas tend to be more associated with anti-semitism, and while I'm sure Mizzou has a lot more black people than Jewish people they do at least have a Hillel center.

Swastikas in modern America are associated with the entire white supremacist movement. In that movement, anti-semitism and racism toward non-whites go hand in hand. The swastika symbolizes both. This is why the Jewish students at Mizzou are in solidarity with the black students on this.

 

[woolfe9998]

I was thinking the same thing...why was this swastika considered to be racist against blacks? I always thought that it was considered more anti-Semitic than anything. Why aren't the Jewish students saying anything about this? There has to be more to the story.

They aren't?

http://www.stljewishlight.com/news/local/article_1ad3c3b0-8892-11e5-9435-1b597c36c2b1.html

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

They aren't?

http://www.stljewishlight.com/news/local/article_1ad3c3b0-8892-11e5-9435-1b597c36c2b1.html

You beat me to it by a couple of minutes!

“We urge you to treat blatant acts of anti-Jewish bigotry, such as a swastika smeared in feces on a dormitory wall, no less promptly, vigorously and comprehensively,” one of the letters states.

Loftin responded, stating that “the university did not immediately react to this latest incident in order to give law enforcement time to investigate and possibly identify the perpetrator(s).”

Despite the recent solidarity among black and Jewish student groups, Aroesty cautioned against linking the racism against black students with anti-Semitism.

 

[buckshot24]

If you are hinting black are not the targets of hate at Mizzou there are more.

Another incident (Nov 12 2015) at the site of a "cotton ball" incident back in 2010.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...th_spray_paint_at_university_of_missouri.html

Would you mind a white culture center?

 

[OutHouse]

Nice to see P&N Righthadists getting to the bottom of this - say, what are your findings on:
- The War On Christmas
- Christians being persecuted
- White men being bigoted against
- Reverse racism
- Race baiting
- The Liberal Media
- ACA Death Panels
- ACA killing jobs
- Benghazi
- Fetuses sold like chopped up chicken parts
- Mexican immigrants infected with Ebola
- Hillary's emailing practices
- The downtown NYC mosque being a foothold of victory by invading Muslim forces
- Obama's birth certificate being fake
- Obama being a Muslim

But, you would rather focus on a shit smeared wall, because a bunch of Negro students said it happened.

By all means, get to the truth of Shitghazi - however, if you lead off with the idea that it was a lie, all for the purposes of manipulating people AND you have a problem with that; then you need to clean up your side of the street first.

isnt thread crapping against the rules?

 

[Ackmed]

Swastikas in modern America are associated with the entire white supremacist movement. In that movement, anti-semitism and racism toward non-whites go hand in hand. The swastika symbolizes both. This is why the Jewish students at Mizzou are in solidarity with the black students on this.

Except some black students are asking white students to leave their protests;

https://twitter.com/_SteveSchmidt_/status/664602953123262464/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

So Jewish students may be with black students on this issue, but not all black students are not with the Jewish.

The fact that Student Body President Payton Head made up the whole KKK thing is really sad. Creating a mass hysteria and causing undue stress and waste of resources is pathetic. He should be punished, but probably will not.

 

[TechBoyJK]

If he had done his job there wouldn't have been pressure for him to resign. Therefore his resignation was triggered by him.

I don't think its that black and white.

The guy can't micromanage every student on campus nor control their thoughts. In every major complaint I've read about, they couldn't even find the perp who did the alleged racist act. Who made the poopswaz? Who yelled the N word at the student president? There's the instance of the drunk guy yelling racist stuff at a black meetup, but what do you do about that? What do you do to him that will make every other racist just stop being racist?

I mean.. you can't just put up signs that say 'stop being racist'.

I think the problem is a lot of people are being close-minded about what the President could have actually done. I don't think he could have done anything reasonable that would have made a difference. It's a cultural problem that transcends his powers.

 

[master_shake_]

Would you mind a white culture center?

now that is a loaded question!

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Except some black students are asking white students to leave their protests;

https://twitter.com/_SteveSchmidt_/status/664602953123262464/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

So Jewish students may be with black students on this issue, but not all black students are not with the Jewish.

The fact that Student Body President Payton Head made up the whole KKK thing is really sad. Creating a mass hysteria and causing undue stress and waste of resources is pathetic. He should be punished, but probably will not.

He should resign.