Is the Media provoking racism by feeding into these homicides by unarmed people?

[gryphus]

Reason with questions

" The fatal shooting of an unarmed black 19-year-old by a white police officer "

The obvious stories that have made headlines in the recent year included an unarmed black man and a white cop
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Skin color seems most defiantly to be huge factor in these cases when skin color does NOT define us as individuals. right?

"Several dozen protesters who gathered outside the police department Saturday afternoon held signs and chanted "Black Lives Matter"

Yes they do, everyone's lives are important regardless of the color of their skins. We are all people in this together.

" "He was unarmed. "

Many unarmed people in America have been killed by police regardless of color.

Take for example
Dylan Taylor, unarmed and killed by Officer Bron Cruz, who was described as non-white. Nothing noticed by mainstream media.

Danielle Maudsley who was tazed while handcuffed and left brain dead in a coma.
Cop was justified and cleared.



Now while the Media pumps these stories to the front pages of the news people are getting upset and protesting. As seen in the aftermath of the Ferguson shooting where fires were set and looting was rampant.

Now would it seem logical that the Media would be feeding into Racism?

" For the record " I am not trying to imply anything about any race rather than comment and question on the Medias view on current events. I respect and love all people regardless of race. Thank you "

 

[Genx87]

I think they are focusing on the story. Which is a govt that has used its police force to systematically oppress a segment of society. It is a way to stimulate debate on a topic that needs debate.

 

[feralkid]

^^^
What he said.

 

[DrPizza]

I think they are focusing on the story. Which is a govt that has used its police force to systematically oppress a segment of society. It is a way to stimulate debate on a topic that needs debate.

No. I don't believe that for a moment. If that was the case, you would see all sorts of investigative journalism. These news conglomerates could report on a different city each day that was using clearly racist policies. They could have easily stimulated a discussion on this if they wanted to.

Sorry, Genx, I don't agree with you a bit. I believe that the media is sensationalizing these stories for the sake of ratings.

 

[piasabird]

Black people as a race tend to be more aggressive, more argumentative, loud mouthed, more likely to question authority. It is their own problem. They cause all of their own problems by committing more crimes and then confronting the police in a violent manner. If people go around breaking the law and fleeing from or confronting the police, they can expect trouble.

Maybe large cities just need more cameras.

When you take negative qualities exhibited by some people and apply them to an entire race, declaring them to be true of ALL that race, you are racist.
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[Vic]

Black people as a race tend to be more aggressive, more argumentative, loud mouthed, more likely to question authority. It is their own problem. They cause all of their own problems by committing more crimes and then confronting the police in a violent manner. If people go around breaking the law and fleeing from or confronting the police, they can expect trouble.

Maybe large cities just need more cameras.

 

[Vic]

No. I don't believe that for a moment. If that was the case, you would see all sorts of investigative journalism. These news conglomerates could report on a different city each day that was using clearly racist policies. They could have easily stimulated a discussion on this if they wanted to.

Sorry, Genx, I don't agree with you a bit. I believe that the media is sensationalizing these stories for the sake of ratings.

You're both right. The media is being sensationalist, and this is a topic that merits discussion. The former because this isn't something new, and the latter because it is contrary to our ideals of freedom and is not new.

 

[Moonbeam]

Black people as a race tend to be more aggressive, more argumentative, loud mouthed, more likely to question authority. It is their own problem. They cause all of their own problems by committing more crimes and then confronting the police in a violent manner. If people go around breaking the law and fleeing from or confronting the police, they can expect trouble.

Maybe large cities just need more cameras.

You are a foolish bigot. American Blacks may disproportionately display those stereotypes, but it's because white people made them that way. When you treat people like dogs over centuries they become culturally vicious. What the black community needs is opportunity and self respect, and many many decades of it.

 

[DCal430]

WTF often it is racism. Look at Ferguson, where Wilson and klan buddies with badges abused blacks on the streets. Now the DOJ is smacking them down hard.

Also racism among cops isn't limited to whites, far from it.

 

[DCal430]

Lol, those are spanish priest.

 

[Vic]

Lol, those are spanish priest.

Ah.. why'd you have to ruin it?

 

[HomerJS]

Black people as a race tend to be more aggressive, more argumentative, loud mouthed, more likely to question authority. It is their own problem. They cause all of their own problems by committing more crimes and then confronting the police in a violent manner. If people go around breaking the law and fleeing from or confronting the police, they can expect trouble.

Maybe large cities just need more cameras.

Waiting for the obligatory uppity darkies

 

[cabri]

You are a foolish bigot. American Blacks may disproportionately display those stereotypes, but it's because white people made them that way. When you treat people like dogs over centuries they become culturally vicious. What the black community needs is opportunity and self respect, and many many decades of it.

The black community have had 50+ years since the government stepped in to clean up/compensate for the issues.

A major problem is what while the changes were planned; it was also resisted by both the locals and the communities it was intended to help. community integration has not happened and becomes a vicious circle of distrust.

Attitudes have grown so ingrown; that to eradicate them presents a problem of its own; each side feels that the other needs to make two steps forward.

When one makes a single step forward; it becomes rejected as not enough and false intentions. The rejection then re-enforces the problem.

Where there was the educational forced busing last century that was rejected in the end by both sides despite the "honorable" intentions; now there will have to be forced community integration which regretfully, will also end in failure.

There are areas where the complete government is representative of the black community. And in most of those; the community is failing in government, economically and potential. Areas in the outlying communities are holding on, but the cores are imploding.

 

[Rakehellion]

ITT: People who have the least experience with racism have the strongest opinions on the topic.

 

[Adams200]

Why can the police kill unarmed people and expect to get away with it? Why are all these deaths justified?

 

[thraashman]

Why can the police kill unarmed people and expect to get away with it? Why are all these deaths justified?

Well apparently if you're piasabird the answer is "because they're black".

 

[mammador]

no. they're highlighting racism.

i don't see how they adding fuel to the fire.

 

[mammador]

Black people as a race tend to be more aggressive, more argumentative, loud mouthed, more likely to question authority. It is their own problem. They cause all of their own problems by committing more crimes and then confronting the police in a violent manner. If people go around breaking the law and fleeing from or confronting the police, they can expect trouble.

Maybe large cities just need more cameras.

this black person isn't...

though your country was based on, and values largely, questioning authority. Most Western countries do. So shouldn't all Western countries/peoples "go back to the cotton field"?

 

[gryphus]

Black people as a race tend to be more aggressive, more argumentative, loud mouthed, more likely to question authority. It is their own problem. They cause all of their own problems by committing more crimes and then confronting the police in a violent manner. If people go around breaking the law and fleeing from or confronting the police, they can expect trouble.

Maybe large cities just need more cameras.

They need more Irish:biggrin:

 

[Pipeline 1010]

You are a foolish bigot. American Blacks may disproportionately display those stereotypes, but it's because white people made them that way. When you treat people like dogs over centuries they become culturally vicious. What the black community needs is opportunity and self respect, and many many decades of it.

I'm beginning to realize that you are essentially correct in that the violence within the community was created and not endemic or genetic.

Take for instance the effect on the black community of the war on drugs. There are more blacks in prison who's worst offense was drug related than there are whites for the same. Yet there are 10 times more white people in America than blacks. All else being equal, we would expect to see more whites in prison for drugs than blacks at a rate of approximately 10x.

So the war-on-drugs/there's-no-racism-in-policing apologist would say this disparity is because blacks use/possess/sell drugs at a 10x rate of whites. Yet this is horseshit. Because whites actually use/possess/sell drugs at a HIGHER rate than blacks. So if police weren't using racial bias during their duties, we'd see MORE than 10x the rate of whites in prison for drugs than blacks. This is statistically so significant that it is impossible for a rational, intelligent, non-liar to deny there is an extremely strong policing bias.

OK, so what does this have to do with violence in black culture? EVERYTHING! What does prison time do to a man? Does it make him docile and repentant and a hard working, contributing member of society? Fuck no it doesn't. People who go to prison for non violent crimes are FAR more likely to be violent after they have served their sentence and are released. Many times more likely. Why? Because prison teaches people that they must be violent to survive. There is a strong chance you will be raped in your asshole multiple times during your prison stay. There's a good chance you'll be assaulted, and a stronger than average chance that you'll be murdered. You are taught to be violent to survive. The prisons LOVE this because they know you'll be back. It's good for business, salaries, job security, and pensions.

All right, so we are training black men to be violent in prison. We are leaving them with a strong negative mark on their record (conviction/prison time) that any potential employer can see and this WILL cause any good employer to overlook this person. So, we've created a violent person and we've ensured that they have no hope that they will ever be able to provide for themselves or for a family. Ever. And then we've told this person that they must behave and be nice and not be violent and contribute to society. Fucking how?

 

[MongGrel]

You are a foolish bigot. American Blacks may disproportionately display those stereotypes, but it's because white people made them that way. When you treat people like dogs over centuries they become culturally vicious. What the black community needs is opportunity and self respect, and many many decades of it.

I've worked with a few black engineers over time that treated me badly and I showed them no disrespect whatsoever.

I'd say many things are skewed all over personally.

Human behavior should dictate moral behavior overall, and there are a lot of idiots on both sides of the line.

 

[soundforbjt]

I'm beginning to realize that you are essentially correct in that the violence within the community was created and not endemic or genetic.

Take for instance the effect on the black community of the war on drugs. There are more blacks in prison who's worst offense was drug related than there are whites for the same. Yet there are 10 times more white people in America than blacks. All else being equal, we would expect to see more whites in prison for drugs than blacks at a rate of approximately 10x.

So the war-on-drugs/there's-no-racism-in-policing apologist would say this disparity is because blacks use/possess/sell drugs at a 10x rate of whites. Yet this is horseshit. Because whites actually use/possess/sell drugs at a HIGHER rate than blacks. So if police weren't using racial bias during their duties, we'd see MORE than 10x the rate of whites in prison for drugs than blacks. This is statistically so significant that it is impossible for a rational, intelligent, non-liar to deny there is an extremely strong policing bias.

OK, so what does this have to do with violence in black culture? EVERYTHING! What does prison time do to a man? Does it make him docile and repentant and a hard working, contributing member of society? Fuck no it doesn't. People who go to prison for non violent crimes are FAR more likely to be violent after they have served their sentence and are released. Many times more likely. Why? Because prison teaches people that they must be violent to survive. There is a strong chance you will be raped in your asshole multiple times during your prison stay. There's a good chance you'll be assaulted, and a stronger than average chance that you'll be murdered. You are taught to be violent to survive. The prisons LOVE this because they know you'll be back. It's good for business, salaries, job security, and pensions.

All right, so we are training black men to be violent in prison. We are leaving them with a strong negative mark on their record (conviction/prison time) that any potential employer can see and this WILL cause any good employer to overlook this person. So, we've created a violent person and we've ensured that they have no hope that they will ever be able to provide for themselves or for a family. Ever. And then we've told this person that they must behave and be nice and not be violent and contribute to society. Fucking how?

And when you can't get a job because of your record, how do earn money?
You rob, sell drugs, etc. and where does that get you, back to prison.
Lather, rinse, repeat. Big win for the prison "business" though.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

And when you can't get a job because of your record, how do earn money?
You rob, sell drugs, etc. and where does that get you, back to prison.
Lather, rinse, repeat. Big win for the prison "business" though.

The most infuriating thing about this is just how many fuckers are totally cool earning their living off of making people suffer like this. "Fuck all those human beings, fuck their freedom, fuck their future, fuck their families, as long as I can get a nice paycheck and a fat pension." THOSE asshole cops/lawyers/prison-guards/judges/wardens are the ones that should be in jail for the betterment of society.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

And when you can't get a job because of your record, how do earn money?
You rob, sell drugs, etc. and where does that get you, back to prison.

And you do these things violently, because that's what you were taught in prison via your unpunished ass-rapings and assaults. So basically sending non-violent people to prison makes life more dangerous for you and me. We are making people more violent and thus increasing our own chances of becoming a victim of a violent act. What kind of fucking moron thinks this is a desirable outcome?

 

[Blanky]

Of course they are. We are now at the point that when a black man attacks a cop and gets shot it's automatically a racist cop that did it, and we'll see protests. This default conclusion is itself profoundly racist and excuses the instigating behavior.

Although police brutality is a real thing and they don't in general treat blacks as well as non-blacks, the golden rule remains stop attacking cops, stop getting killed by them. No protest is going to encourage a cop to stop defending themselves when attacked. Lost in the marching asking why these unarmed black teens are getting killed is the question why are they attacking people? Cops will quite happily shoot to death anybody who attacks them of any race and we all know it.