Is the USA becoming more Christian?

[robains]

First off, I'm not religious -- well at least I don't believe in a God or Gods.

I was just curious if others have noticed an increase in the open display of religion, religious symbols, and/or religious beliefs both in public and via the various media channels? If so, what do you think the cause is?

1. Life is getting more and more complicated so people seek easy answers?
2. Other religions are threatening Christianity?
3. More people just wanna believe in something?
4. President Bush & Congress have strong majority religious background?
5. War on Terrorists has united religious groups?
6. Other -- something else?

How many of you believe religion belongs in politics? Is the USA really just another Christian country where other beliefs or non-beliefs are currently just tolerated but ultimately will not be tolerated once there is enough of a Christian majority to force non-compliance out of the country (this can be both political, economical, and social pressure).

My personal obvservations is that the USA is becoming less and less free, but I'm curious as to what you folks have to say.

Thanks, Rob.

 

[slash196]

I think it APPEARS to be becoming more religious because it's actually getting less religious; there's finally something to contrast significantly with the Christian establishment.

 

[ntdz]

I don't think it's getting more religious...I just think the Christians are getting more outspoken because they are starting to feel threatened because society is moving away from religion.

 

[themusgrat]

Not really.
1. Kind of.
2. Other religions come and go, Christianity is one of the few (prob 2, besides atheism/humanism/not believing in God at all) that has stood for a long time.
3. Maybe, but that is a stupid reason.
4. It does help that almost every President of the US has professed to be Christian.
5. No.
6. No idea.

I listened to NPR yesterday, I think, and one of the Rep. candidates for the 2008 elections said it best. This is from memory, so it's not perfect. "I believe in the separation of church and state, but not the removal of church from state." Also, as long as we think that the gov. should solve every problem, we will lose freedom.

 

[tommywishbone]

Not if I can help it. Party on!:beer:

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: ntdz
I don't think it's getting more religious...I just think the Christians are getting more outspoken because they are starting to feel threatened because society is moving away from religion.

qft

 

[themusgrat]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: ntdz
I don't think it's getting more religious...I just think the Christians are getting more outspoken because they are starting to feel threatened because society is moving away from religion.

qft

No, we are being pretty much the same.

 

[robains]

Hmmm...interesting...I had not thought about it from that angle. Good point, maybe the media and religious people are just bringing Christianity to the fore front because they don't want to be forgotten?

But the Bible belt did win the vote -- strong enough to be the majority.

I've noticed in my local area that parents are now forcing their kids to church and other religious activities and the once empty church parking lots are now filling up -- and I live in CA which is not a state I would expect to see this happen in.

It feels like the USA is becoming more Christian -- maybe it is just my awareness now...hmmm...

I still have this fear of a modern day Crusades.

 

[slash196]

Originally posted by: themusgrat
Not really.
1. Kind of.
2. Other religions come and go, Christianity is one of the few (prob 2, besides atheism/humanism/not believing in God at all) that has stood for a long time.
3. Maybe, but that is a stupid reason.
4. It does help that almost every President of the US has professed to be Christian.
5. No.
6. No idea.

I listened to NPR yesterday, I think, and one of the Rep. candidates for the 2008 elections said it best. This is from memory, so it's not perfect. "I believe in the separation of church and state, but not the removal of church from state." Also, as long as we think that the gov. should solve every problem, we will lose freedom.

Seperation = removal. I can't believe the people who buy that spewage.

 

[dahunan]

The more FEAR mr bush gives them the more they turn to their God..

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: themusgrat

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: ntdz
I don't think it's getting more religious...I just think the Christians are getting more outspoken because they are starting to feel threatened because society is moving away from religion.

qft

No, we are being pretty much the same.

If you advocate gay marriage, you are not advocating the status quo.
Not as if that is a bad thing, just an example of secularism pushing its views on state.

 

[Harvey]

I hope not. I want a bumper sticker that says:

FUN-da-MENTAL-ists are neither!

It applies to fundies of any religion. All such narrow, non-thinking has ever brought to the world is fear and ignorance.

 

[ebaycj]

reply to thread title: god, i hope not.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: themusgrat

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: ntdz
I don't think it's getting more religious...I just think the Christians are getting more outspoken because they are starting to feel threatened because society is moving away from religion.

qft

No, we are being pretty much the same.

If you advocate gay marriage, you are not advocating the status quo.
Not as if that is a bad thing, just an example of secularism pushing its views on state.

The same argument was used about interracial marriages too.

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: robains
First off, I'm not religious -- well at least I don't believe in a God or Gods.

I was just curious if others have noticed an increase in the open display of religion, religious symbols, and/or religious beliefs both in public and via the various media channels? If so, what do you think the cause is?

1. Life is getting more and more complicated so people seek easy answers?
2. Other religions are threatening Christianity?
3. More people just wanna believe in something?
4. President Bush & Congress have strong majority religious background?
5. War on Terrorists has united religious groups?
6. Other -- something else?

How many of you believe religion belongs in politics? Is the USA really just another Christian country where other beliefs or non-beliefs are currently just tolerated but ultimately will not be tolerated once there is enough of a Christian majority to force non-compliance out of the country (this can be both political, economical, and social pressure).

My personal obvservations is that the USA is becoming less and less free, but I'm curious as to what you folks have to say.

Thanks, Rob.

Maybe God has abandoned many of these people who are Christian in name only and since the name is all they have left they are doing whatever they feel is necessary to preserve it even at the expense of others.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: themusgrat

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: ntdz
I don't think it's getting more religious...I just think the Christians are getting more outspoken because they are starting to feel threatened because society is moving away from religion.

qft

No, we are being pretty much the same.

If you advocate gay marriage, you are not advocating the status quo.
Not as if that is a bad thing, just an example of secularism pushing its views on state.

The same argument was used about interracial marriages too.

The state banned interracial marriages?
The church openly condemned interracial marriages?
This is news to me!

 

[themusgrat]

Originally posted by: slash196

Originally posted by: themusgrat
Not really.
1. Kind of.
2. Other religions come and go, Christianity is one of the few (prob 2, besides atheism/humanism/not believing in God at all) that has stood for a long time.
3. Maybe, but that is a stupid reason.
4. It does help that almost every President of the US has professed to be Christian.
5. No.
6. No idea.

I listened to NPR yesterday, I think, and one of the Rep. candidates for the 2008 elections said it best. This is from memory, so it's not perfect. "I believe in the separation of church and state, but not the removal of church from state." Also, as long as we think that the gov. should solve every problem, we will lose freedom.

Seperation = removal. I can't believe the people who buy that spewage.

I can't believe you live in a country where people can do anything without being discriminated against for religion. Go to China. If you think that separation = removal, you need to have a good pow-wow with Mr. Webster. We are free because we don't care if people are Christian, atheist, Muslim, or anything else. I feel stupid and naive and ummmmm stupid by stating something this stupidly, blatantly, stupidly, obvious right.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: robains
Hmmm...interesting...I had not thought about it from that angle. Good point, maybe the media and religious people are just bringing Christianity to the fore front because they don't want to be forgotten?

But the Bible belt did win the vote -- strong enough to be the majority.

I've noticed in my local area that parents are now forcing their kids to church and other religious activities and the once empty church parking lots are now filling up -- and I live in CA which is not a state I would expect to see this happen in.

It feels like the USA is becoming more Christian -- maybe it is just my awareness now...hmmm...

I still have this fear of a modern day Crusades.

I see it in some places, and probably for some of the reasons you describe. That doesn't mean it's becoming more christian though, just more afraid. To be a christian you have to act like a christian, and Americans in particular are not good at that. It is becoming more evangelical and fundamentalist though (and I'm not trying to pick on those two sects this time, just stating a fact). I think a lot of it comes down to the polarization that's being fed by politicians and media pressures.

There's not much to fear from modern crusades...even if it were to happen, this time we're not unarmed peasants living afraid in remote areas. We have weapons, armor, and equipment every bit as powerful as theirs.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: themusgrat

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: ntdz
I don't think it's getting more religious...I just think the Christians are getting more outspoken because they are starting to feel threatened because society is moving away from religion.

qft

No, we are being pretty much the same.

If you advocate gay marriage, you are not advocating the status quo.
Not as if that is a bad thing, just an example of secularism pushing its views on state.

The same argument was used about interracial marriages too.

The state banned interracial marriages?
The church openly condemned interracial marriages?
This is news to me!

I'm sure there are quite a few things that are new to you.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: themusgrat

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: ntdz
I don't think it's getting more religious...I just think the Christians are getting more outspoken because they are starting to feel threatened because society is moving away from religion.

qft

No, we are being pretty much the same.

If you advocate gay marriage, you are not advocating the status quo.
Not as if that is a bad thing, just an example of secularism pushing its views on state.

The same argument was used about interracial marriages too.

The state banned interracial marriages?
The church openly condemned interracial marriages?
This is news to me!

I'm sure there are quite a few things that are new to you.

That's not the church, that's some extremist website.
And doesn't address any of questions...

 

[sierrita]

Originally posted by: Stunt[/i


The state banned interracial marriages?
The church openly condemned interracial marriages?
This is news to me!

Wow, ever bother to google before posting?

During the 1950s, half of the states still had laws prohibiting interracial marriage.



What's History?

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: themusgrat

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: ntdz
I don't think it's getting more religious...I just think the Christians are getting more outspoken because they are starting to feel threatened because society is moving away from religion.

qft

No, we are being pretty much the same.

If you advocate gay marriage, you are not advocating the status quo.
Not as if that is a bad thing, just an example of secularism pushing its views on state.

The same argument was used about interracial marriages too.

The state banned interracial marriages?
The church openly condemned interracial marriages?
This is news to me!

I'm sure there are quite a few things that are new to you.

That's not the church, that's some extremist website.
And doesn't address any of questions...

Lol!....facts are facts, wherever they come from...

So you are arguing that states never banned inter racial marriage?


WOWzerz

:roll:

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: Stunt[/i


The state banned interracial marriages?
The church openly condemned interracial marriages?
This is news to me!

Wow, ever bother to google before posting?

During the 1950s, half of the states still had laws prohibiting interracial marriage.



What's History?

So you agree America is becoming more secular...the whole point of this argument?

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: Stunt[/i


The state banned interracial marriages?
The church openly condemned interracial marriages?
This is news to me!

Wow, ever bother to google before posting?

During the 1950s, half of the states still had laws prohibiting interracial marriage.



What's History?

So you agree America is becoming more secular...the whole point of this argument?

You can run but you can't hide.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: Stunt


The state banned interracial marriages?
The church openly condemned interracial marriages?
This is news to me!

Wow, ever bother to google before posting?

During the 1950s, half of the states still had laws prohibiting interracial marriage.



What's History?

So you agree America is becoming more secular...the whole point of this argument?

You can run but you can't hide.

Are you even responding to my post?
Those links mean secualism is progressing.