Is The Witcher 3 Going To Look Like The E3 Trailer

[tolis626]

Many of the games exclusive to PC tend to be poorly multithreaded, and only use DX9 too. At least I can't think of any "next-gen game" that's PC exclusive.

Speaking of The Witcher series, the first one was released in 2007 and didn't support DX10, and TW2 (exclusive for 1 year) was released in 2011 and was too limited to DX9. AFAIK, The Witcher 3 only uses DX11.0.

I don't want to say the graphics were bad, but neither of the games were prime examples of what PC exclusivity allows for. And that goes for many other PC exclusives too during the 360 generation.

If I'm not mistaken, the first Witcher game was made on a quite low budget. With that said, Witcher 2 looks stunning in my opinion. Not Crysis 3 stunning, but compare it to other games of its genre and its awesome looking. Can't wait to see what TW3 brings to the table.

I do have a feeling that I will need a second 290 to max it out though....

 

[RussianSensation]

It probably will. Honestly up close a lot of the game does not look impressive for true "next gen" game. Some really blurry low res objects that stand out compared to the rest of the graphics.

Which current 3rd person game looks as good as Witcher 3?

Watch Dogs looks last generation compared to this game and they are going to be just 9 months apart.

Here's hoping we'll see the 880 on 20nm sometime during Q4, just in time for lush graphics.
Probably wishful thinking though..

If 880 = GM204, I'd rather NV release a GM210 around February 2015

 

[Cadarin]

Next Gen is just a silly marketing term, which is why it seems like every definition people give it is different. "Will it require the latest version of DirectX?" has to be one of the most arbitrary ones I've seen yet.

Will it push technology forward is what I generally ask, and it appears that this game will, at least graphically. I'm far more interested in whether or not they'll finally come up with a combat system that doesn't rely on rolling around on the ground and spastic button mashing :whiste:

 

[Balzac04]

I hope so

 

[Racan]

PC will be ahead graphically but today's GPUs have no chance in coping with next generation games once developers exclusively focus on PS4/XB1 development and are no longer anchored by ancient PS360 consoles.

Games such as Witcher 3, Dragon Age Inquisition, The Division and Uncharted 4 are just the beginning of the next wave of games. Does anyone really believe the current consoles will be replaced in the next 4 years? If not, then we shall see a large leap in PC graphics for which we'll need Maxwell and then Pascal generation of GPUs.

I'm hoping DX12 will change this prospect and allow even today's vastly more powerful high end PC hardware to blow the PS4/XBONE out of the water.

 

[escrow4]

You can have a PC exclusive title but have none of the next generation gameplay, sound effects, graphics, AI, complex NPCs, etc. Even if a game is made exclusively for the PC, it doesn't guarantee that it will be a next generation title at the time of its release. Conversely, just because a game is a cross-platform title (Crysis 3), it doesn't mean it cannot be considered a next generation. Finally, one can have a next generation gaming experience that's exclusive to consoles only, such as Uncharted 4. The game doesn't have to be a PC exclusive for it to be a next generation gaming experience either -- it can be cross-platform, PC exclusive, console exclusive. Your argument is not logical in nature because if we believe what you say, then there will not be any improvement in games from now to infinity.

According to you, no game that is cross-platform with consoles can ever be considered a next generation game. That's bullocks. Sooner or later there will be games with more advanced AI, physics effects, higher quantity NPCs, 4k+ textures and graphics that will blow Crysis 3 away. Are you saying that BF5, 6, Tomb Raider, AC, and other such games will never exceed the level of today's games just because they will be cross-platform with PS4/XB1? That's bullocks. Also, a game doesn't need to be 80 hrs+ in length to be a great game/next gen game. The focus should is on quality of the campaign, not quantity. I'd rather play an 8-10 hour interesting game than a boring, monotonous/repetitive 80 hour game.

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Next gen can't even crack 1080/60p. Games won't exceed old ass last gen consoles by a huge margin. It will be incremental at best.

 

[bystander36]

Can you clarify what you mean here? I'm almost positive it varies by game whether something will be CPU or GPU bottlenecked and whether it runs at 30 or 60fps on console usually isn't an indicator if it is CPU or GPU bottlenecked you have to actually look at the game ie. is it a linear corridor shooter well then probably a GPU bottleneck, if its a multiplayer RTS then probbaly gonna be a CPU bottleneck..

I never meant to suggest that a port will automatically be CPU bottlenecked, but if a game was designed around the console at 30 FPS, they would not have taken steps to ensure the game could run at 60 FPS.

If they push the console CPU to its limit with a 30 FPS cap, that would cause problems when ported to the PC. Some games, like Wolfenstein, have a hard cap due to the dev's applying the physics engine to the game that is tied to the FPS, resulting in unexpected behavior beyond 60 FPS (same issue with Skyrim).

Games designed around a console will not take into consideration that PC users have different FPS expectations and are more prone to being CPU bound.

 

[f1sherman]

Which current 3rd person game looks as good as Witcher 3?

Witcher 2/3 pulls it by using limited draw distance, essentially being corridor shooter. Mind you it does it while looking very beautiful

But take a look at that 1st pic featuring open wide space - not very impressive right?

 

[bystander36]

Looks impressive to me. You can't expect super high res detail on things way out in the distance, as in real life, we cannot see that.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sufwxU_Uaz4

A 5 minute E3 demo stroll through a city, not sure if its off Xbone or PC, but anyways looks fantastic.

EDIT: Apparently its Xbone gameplay.

 

[toyota]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sufwxU_Uaz4

A 5 minute E3 demo stroll through a city, not sure if its off Xbone or PC, but anyways looks fantastic.

EDIT: Apparently its Xbone gameplay.

after watching that its hard to believe some people claim they dont ever see screen tearing in games.

 

[f1sherman]

well that doesn't look like it has very limited drawing distance at all, but let's not lie to ourselves - it doesn't look very beautiful either (WTH??)

hopefully PC will look MUCH better, and they will get rid of those annoying pop ups (TBH I doubt it)

 

[RussianSensation]

Next gen can't even crack 1080/60p. Games won't exceed old ass last gen consoles by a huge margin. It will be incremental at best.

I was talking about the PC. You implied that because developers will be coding for PS4/xB1, that PC will suffer as a result and we won't get any true next generation PC games. You said the only way a game can be next generation in the PC is if it was developed only for the PC hardware such as 780Ti. During PS4-XB1 generation on the PC there will be games that will blow Crysis 3 away graphically, even if they are cross-platform titles. I am sure BF6 in 4 years from now will do that.

 

[loccothan]

For Sure the CD-RED is OK as always


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[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

But take a look at that 1st pic featuring open wide space - not very impressive right?

Compared to what?

 

[Silverforce11]

Compared to what?

Compared to Unigine Valley..

But kidding aside, graphics that good along with all the gameplay elements, AI, and everything else, yeah, its pretty damn good.

I love it when games actually punish hardware and we get great visuals and immersion out of it.

Lots complaint about WD visually, but the scope of it is unmatched by these "mini instanced" level type games. Heck, if each city block was a stage which low draw distance, I'm sure the devs could have crammed in heaps more details.

 

[tolis626]

If I'm not mistaken, all Witcher 3 footage right now is from consoles. If it's so, who's saying that draw distance won't be adjustable in the PC version? It won't be the first game to have the option. Bam, problem solved. Anything else?

 

[Rakehellion]

If you really wanted a next gen game you'd want it to be at least 100GB in size, with half or close to half of that on very high res textures (4K+, everything from the trees down to the daggers to the cups)

That's just dumb on so many levels and is not how games are designed at all.

 

[f1sherman]

If I'm not mistaken, all Witcher 3 footage right now is from consoles. If it's so, who's saying that draw distance won't be adjustable in the PC version? It won't be the first game to have the option. Bam, problem solved. Anything else?

My bad - drawing distance in W3 is not Watch Dogs big, but it looks decent.
Actually its not bad in W2 also, it's the level design and small enclosed maps that makes it seem that way.
Which again is performance choice.

But that console video looks god awful (maybe I need to upgrade Flash LOL),
and I'm 100% sure it's nothing like PC version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sufwxU_Uaz4
PC version will blow us away, no doubt about it.

But check the old & mighty UE3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO2_iUkojCY
Looks pretty damn good on consoles too?

 

[poohbear]

All the true next gen games are coming out 2015. Thats the reality. Witcher 2 looked gorgeous, still one of the prettiest RPGs on the PC imo. I imagine witcher 3 will live up to expectations if witcher 2 is anything to go by.

 

[Granseth]

All the true next gen games are coming out 2015. Thats the reality. Witcher 2 looked gorgeous, still one of the prettiest RPGs on the PC imo. I imagine witcher 3 will live up to expectations if witcher 2 is anything to go by.

Are you shure, from what I heard the real next gen games will wait untill 2016.

Anyway, I think W3 looks great, but whats more important is that the gameplay looks promising. And hopefully that will be the trend that graphics are good and story and gameplay becomes more important.

 

[tolis626]

Are you shure, from what I heard the real next gen games will wait untill 2016.

Anyway, I think W3 looks great, but whats more important is that the gameplay looks promising. And hopefully that will be the trend that graphics are good and story and gameplay becomes more important.

Amen to that brother. I'm tired of hearing about "next-gen games" that will need 4 GPUs to run properly and look... just a little better than current games. I want games that I will want to play. Kinda like the Witcher series or Mass Effect. ME doesn't really have good graphics, but I spent more than 100 hours to finish the trilogy and it was well worth it. And I'd play it again if I didn't have so many more games that I want to play. Graphics come second in my opinion. An enjoyable game is an enjoyable game, no matter if it brings your system to its knees.

My bad - drawing distance in W3 is not Watch Dogs big, but it looks decent.
Actually its not bad in W2 also, it's the level design and small enclosed maps that makes it seem that way.
Which again is performance choice.

But that console video looks god awful (maybe I need to upgrade Flash LOL),
and I'm 100% sure it's nothing like PC version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sufwxU_Uaz4
PC version will blow us away, no doubt about it.

But check the old & mighty UE3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO2_iUkojCY
Looks pretty damn good on consoles too?

See? The draw distance is much improved in that video. Although if there was so much tearing going on while I'm playing, I'd have punched the screen.

Anyway, turns out that Witcher 3 will probably look amazing and even more so on the PC.

About UE3, I like Unreal. I can't say I don't. Their engine produces some really good looking games while being rather easy on the hardware. Games with UE3 don't look realistic by any stretch of the imagination, but they look damn good. I'd accept it if someone disagrees, but that's what I think.

 

[cytg111]

doesnt look *that* good does it? We're still those clumpsy angular apes and the eyes still look retarded (the eye thing goes for all of em, though I think thief did a little better)

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

But that console video looks god awful (maybe I need to upgrade Flash LOL),
and I'm 100% sure it's nothing like PC version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sufwxU_Uaz4
PC version will blow us away, no doubt about it.

That was very clearly the PC version. And yes, judging the IQ from a youtube video is not a good idea.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

IGN said all the stuff showed so far is off an Xbone.