Is there a Republican you would *like* to run for president in 2016?

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Darkman

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I don't mind Republican win in 2016 ... but if Hillary Clinton decides to run ... there is a good chance Democrats will win it again .. and "keep" it for another 8 years ...

... I could be wrong of course .. but .. mark my words ......

... time will show, in any case ...
 

hardhat

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1. Absolutely none of the previous candidates. Anyone who wouldn't take a ten-to-one deal on cuts vs debt increases is impractical and will only hurt the nation.
2. No social conservatives. Being socially conservative has nothing to do with religion.
3. Cannot have been born/inherited riches. This would probably be the hardest condition to fulfill, but it is the most important. Having all of your needs met easily, and seeing people around you as servants at a young age, seems to create a personality without empathy for other's plights. This is not always the case, but there are many more examples of it than the reverse.
 

DeadFred

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First off when using the acronym, it's RINO. Second, Christie has on a couple of occasions shown to be about the only Republican in power willing to put what's right before what the party wants. I realize to most Republicans that's a grave sin, and that's why people like me that aren't insane mostly hate Republicans. Cruz on the other hand is all about party and politics first, action and actually doing things for the citizens of this nation seem to rank somewhere around 143rd on his list.



What were those occasions?


Is that why big neocon Republicans like Boehner (some say Cruz has some neocon tendencies himself) are often at odds with Cruz? Is that why Cruz goes against Boehner and most of the party on raising the debt ceiling on a whim? Is that why Cruz joined with Rand Paul to want to pass a bill that says you can't drone strike American citizens on U.S. soil even though most Republicans love drone striking everything?

And since we're talking about drone striking U.S. citizens, how come Democrats don't care much about that sort of thing? Majority establishment neocon Republicans siding with Democrats on drone strikes... is that one of those issues they are putting the people first on?

Not to mention Cruz's clash with rest of the RINO's <---(happy now, Traashman) over the latest amnesty bill. Every stance Cruz has taken so far has put our Constitution and national interest over party politics.
 

Lash444

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I don't mind Republican win in 2016 ... but if Hillary Clinton decides to run ... there is a good chance Democrats will win it again .. and "keep" it for another 8 years ...

... I could be wrong of course .. but .. mark my words ......

... time will show, in any case ...
You aren't exactly making a bold prediction. Hillary is probably the consensus top pick for Democrats, and Republicans havent exactly been makig a strong showing (do you think they have really improved their parties appeal to the younger generations + minorities)?

If she runs I think its a virtual slam dunk. I dont think anyone who is being honest with themselves can say otherwise. Though im sure the polls will come out to show that women still "dont want a female president" and "republicans are killing it with minorities".

Thats my prediction. Why? Because the republicans need that to be the case. And thats what the data NEEDS to say....mark my words.
 
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First off when using the acronym, it's RINO. Second, Christie has on a couple of occasions shown to be about the only Republican in power willing to put what's right before what the party wants. I realize to most Republicans that's a grave sin, and that's why people like me that aren't insane mostly hate Republicans. Cruz on the other hand is all about party and politics first, action and actually doing things for the citizens of this nation seem to rank somewhere around 143rd on his list.

You mean like obama? Who will pander to his cronies for political points. STFU you scumbag.
 

fskimospy

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You aren't exactly making a bold prediction. Hillary is probably the consensus top pick for Democrats, and Republicans havent exactly been makig a strong showing (do you think they have really improved their parties appeal to the younger generations + minorities)?

If she runs I think its a virtual slam dunk. I dont think anyone who is being honest with themselves can say otherwise. Though im sure the polls will come out to show that women still "dont want a female president" and "republicans are killing it with minorities".

Thats my prediction. Why? Because the republicans need that to be the case. And thats what the data NEEDS to say....mark my words.

Hillary is quite likely to win in 2016 if (when) she runs, but it's not a slam dunk. Predicting the political environment three years out is a fool's errand. She does have a lot of advantages though:

- Early consolidation of the party around a single candidate is predictive of that candidate winning.
- Strong approval numbers across parties. (note: as she becomes more likely to be the Democratic nominee, Republican approval of her will decline)
- Democrats have won the popular vote for every presidential election but one going back a quarter century and continuing demographic shifts should reinforce this trend.

This doesn't mean she's a sure thing, but if I had to bet now on her odds of winning if she is the Democratic nominee I would put them at 70%+.
 

thraashman

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You mean like obama? Who will pander to his cronies for political points. STFU you scumbag.

And someone called me angry. Obama has nothing to do with this conversation. He won't even be eligible to run in 2016. Judging from your posting I'm sure you didn't know that though as you are pretty much the stupidest human being I've ever been aware of existing.
 
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And someone called me angry. Obama has nothing to do with this conversation. He won't even be eligible to run in 2016. Judging from your posting I'm sure you didn't know that though as you are pretty much the stupidest human being I've ever been aware of existing.

I'm not the one supporting a guy who thinks it's alright to drone Americans. I use insults against anyone who violates the Constitution and it's not me being angry. You're a pathetic excuse for a human being.
 

thraashman

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I'm not the one supporting a guy who thinks it's alright to drone Americans. I use insults against anyone who violates the Constitution and it's not me being angry. You're a pathetic excuse for a human being.

You understand the Constitution less than any poster on this board. You use insults against anyone who even mildly disagrees with you and then you complain when others insult you that using insults proves they have no argument (I've seen you do this on at least 3 occasions). As far as support for the President, I personally support his ideas that are in line with my own and oppose those that are not. I am pretty heavily against the use of drones, against the NSA broad wiretapping, and against the subpoenaing of AP phone records. You on the other hand consistently support every crazy ass thing the far, far right does.

And you can insult me all you want, but as I've pointed out before, you calling me a name is like Hitler telling me I'm a bad Nazi. Why should I care what a person with the world's most skewed perspective calls me, it's more of a compliment that you don't like me than anything.
 

shortylickens

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Any candidate who ignores the zealot christians.
And since the GOP would never put that person up, we are fucked.
 

Emos

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And you can insult me all you want, but as I've pointed out before, you calling me a name is like Hitler telling me I'm a bad Nazi. Why should I care what a person with the world's most skewed perspective calls me, it's more of a compliment that you don't like me than anything.

heh have to remember that comeback line!
 

khon

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I was a Paul supporter aswell but he was too extreme on a few issues (I agreed with most all of his stances) that many conservatives are not ready to adopt. I think Rand is almost exactly like his dad and is just playing a much better game than his old man. He knows he has to be a moderate on some issues.


Rand Paul is too much of a christian conservative for me.

And his flip-flop on drones was pathetic.
 

Agent11

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I would pay money to see the dialog with other world leaders though, would be very entertaining.
 

DrPizza

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What were those occasions?
I think the most well publicized occasion was his handling of the aftermath of Sandy. There was quite a bit of clash between him and the rest of the Republican party. He said that he put his state and constituents before political parties, and earned the respect of a lot of people for that.

I'm surprised so many are anti-Christie in this thread. Last I had noticed in the news, his approval ratings were over 70% in his own state. Compare that to Romney's approval rating when he was governor of Mass. at just 35%.

And people are mentioning Jindal? The people in his own state don't even approve of him. I personally think it's a bigger uphill battle to get people to like you when the people of your own state don't even approve of how you're doing.

This might be pertinent to the thread: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/28/popular-governors-and-prospects-for-2016/
 

fskimospy

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I think the most well publicized occasion was his handling of the aftermath of Sandy. There was quite a bit of clash between him and the rest of the Republican party. He said that he put his state and constituents before political parties, and earned the respect of a lot of people for that.

I'm surprised so many are anti-Christie in this thread. Last I had noticed in the news, his approval ratings were over 70% in his own state. Compare that to Romney's approval rating when he was governor of Mass. at just 35%.

And people are mentioning Jindal? The people in his own state don't even approve of him. I personally think it's a bigger uphill battle to get people to like you when the people of your own state don't even approve of how you're doing.

This might be pertinent to the thread: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/28/popular-governors-and-prospects-for-2016/

I think Christie fits the model of what most conservatives on here say they want. He's fiscally conservative and he doesn't spend too much time listening to the crazies. I think his greatest sin to them is that he has consorted with The Great Satan and occasionally worked with Obama on things. Normally this would be a positive, but in today's Republican Party it might be the kiss of death.

If Republicans want to have a chance to win in 2016 they should nominate Christie. My gut tells me that he will be drummed out for being too liberal, however.
 
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I think Christie fits the model of what most conservatives on here say they want. He's fiscally conservative and he doesn't spend too much time listening to the crazies. I think his greatest sin to them is that he has consorted with The Great Satan and occasionally worked with Obama on things. Normally this would be a positive, but in today's Republican Party it might be the kiss of death.

If Republicans want to have a chance to win in 2016 they should nominate Christie. My gut tells me that he will be drummed out for being too liberal, however.

Sorry, all the pork in that recovery bill pissed off any conservative that demands we stop wasteful spending during tough economic times.

The entire time he is shouting "PASS THIS BILL!" while the rest of the conservatives are saying "Hold on now fattie, what the fuck is this shit with Alaska fishermen doing in here you stupid fat fuck?"
 

zinfamous

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Probably Christie because he seems to be brimming over with common sense and doesn't seem to endorse the bullshit that is constantly vomited out by fringe teabaggers.
 

kage69

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Sorry, all the pork in that recovery bill pissed off any conservative that demands we stop wasteful spending during tough economic times.

The entire time he is shouting "PASS THIS BILL!" while the rest of the conservatives are saying "Hold on now fattie, what the fuck is this shit with Alaska fishermen doing in here you stupid fat fuck?"

I'm not defending pork in the least, but the above sentiments don't garner a lot of respect in a frugal sense when the same people hitting the brakes don't seem to have a problem wasting time and money submitting DOA bills for discussion and votes, repeatedly. Where is this sense of frugality with the ACA? House GOP has been trying to repeal it FOR THREE YEARS, and without having any kind of replacement plan. They're up to what, 38, 39 attempts?

Wasteful spending, lol. There are better, cheaper, and quicker ways to showboat for your base GOP
 
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