Is there a secret ingredient in the food at Five Guys Burgers and Fries?

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Lifer
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I've done a lot of research on sugar. Apparently, sugar is the most addictive substance on earth. One studied showed that sugar was 8 times as addictive as cocaine. Cigarettes can contain up to 20% sugar, which is supposedly the hidden addictive part of smoking (know anyone addicted to nicotine gum? no? how about nicotine patches?). Same thing with alcoholism - it's simply a sugar addiction with the added benefit of a buzz. Sugar = tasty & addictive, which means that if you add it to all of your products, it will keep people coming back for more!

MSG is the addictive substance McDonalds uses to keep lemmings coming back for more. Sugar doesn't hold a candle to the addictive power of MSG.
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
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Hmm, it's basically sugar in the buns and fries. ~7-8g for the small buns ~8-9g for the larger buns. Bunless versions are 0-1g.
 

SunnyD

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Not impressed with 5 boys. I've had better burgers at a backyard cookout with the bulk crap that comes frozen out of a box.

Okay, that's exaggerating a little bit. But not much. 5 guys = typical fast food burger, not worth the price. If you're going to pay that kind of money for a burger, you might as well go to a sit-down place and order a REAL burger.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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I bought a large fry picturing a mcdonals or burger king large fry.

It was huge and too much for me to eat. Should call their small fry large and their large fry Stay Puff size.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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MSG is the addictive substance McDonalds uses to keep lemmings coming back for more. Sugar doesn't hold a candle to the addictive power of MSG.

No, MSG is not what you think it is.

It's a flavor enhancer, and is what the amino acid, free glutamic acid, turns into after it's been processed. processed free glutamic acid is created without even realizing it. heating glutamic acid is the way that most naturally occurring "MSG" is created.

Many people are not tolerant of MSG, including myself. It triggers specific types of migraine headaches for me. I say specific, because based on symptoms, I know when I've eaten it.

MSG effects everyone differently. Most people just feel a "buzz" after they consume it.

It's not addictive to my knowledge. But it does add a special flavor that many people enjoy and crave.
 
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Not a 5 Guys fan. Everything is ok, burgers are messy and ok, food is served ok, the wait is ok, the fries are better than ok but not great.
 

Wreckem

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MSG is the addictive substance McDonalds uses to keep lemmings coming back for more. Sugar doesn't hold a candle to the addictive power of MSG.

If MSG was as bad as some claim it is(without actual HARD science backing them up), it would be banned in the EU(some people comically spout it is banned in Europe which is furthest from the truth). MSG is heavily used outside the US, more so than in the US, and you don't have the alleged problems that we have in the US. Maybe its actually the other shit we are putting in our food.

The fact of the matter, MSG is the single most studied food additive in the world and ALL major food safety agencies have came to the conclusion on it.
 
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It is difficult to take some alternatives as worthy suggestions when they are not near me. What is an alternative that is a national chain? And by national, I mean in ATL, too.
 

nageov3t

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Not impressed with 5 boys. I've had better burgers at a backyard cookout with the bulk crap that comes frozen out of a box.

Okay, that's exaggerating a little bit. But not much. 5 guys = typical fast food burger, not worth the price. If you're going to pay that kind of money for a burger, you might as well go to a sit-down place and order a REAL burger.

the two aren't really comparable.

if I have to have a fast food burger for whatever reason, I'd rather have 5 Guys than McD's or BK.

but they're not comparable to a good homemade burger, diner, or higher-end sit-down restaurant.
 

Kaido

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If MSG was as bad as some claim it is(without actual HARD science backing them up), it would be banned in the EU(some people comically spout it is banned in Europe which is furthest from the truth). MSG is heavily used outside the US, more so than in the US, and you don't have the alleged problems that we have in the US. Maybe its actually the other stuff we are putting in our food.

The fact of the matter, MSG is the single most studied food additive in the world and ALL major food safety agencies have came to the conclusion on it.

Ah, but there's a catch: all political systems are corrupt, and big food companies have lots of money to bribe politicians. Plus, a lot of studies get stifled because it's not in the best interest of money-making companies to publish negative reports. Just look at how long it took for BPA to become bad news. Go watch "Tapped" on Netflix to start out with...scary stuff. Thank goodness there are whistleblowers out there who feel the need to alert the public instead of letting companies cover up the horrible effects (like cancer) of the products.

We still eat tons of garbage in the U.S. that are known to have bad effects & are banned in other countries because they're not stupidly grandfathered in. We ban some of it, but not all of it. There are zillions of articles on them:

http://foodmatters.tv/articles-1/8-additives-from-the-us-that-are-banned-in-other-countries

http://eatlocalgrown.com/article/11944-banned-foods.html
 

SunnyD

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the two aren't really comparable.

if I have to have a fast food burger for whatever reason, I'd rather have 5 Guys than McD's or BK.

but they're not comparable to a good homemade burger, diner, or higher-end sit-down restaurant.

No arguments.

The only difference is I'd be willing to pay about $0.99-$1.29 for a 5 guys burger. I wouldn't pay at all for the shit that Micky-D's or BK slings.
 

Wreckem

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the two aren't really comparable.

if I have to have a fast food burger for whatever reason, I'd rather have 5 Guys than McD's or BK.

but they're not comparable to a good homemade burger, diner, or higher-end sit-down restaurant.

Five Guys is not in the same category as McDs or In and Out. Five Guys is not fast food. Five Guys is Fast Casual.
 

Wreckem

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Ah, but there's a catch: all political systems are corrupt, and big food companies have lots of money to bribe politicians. Plus, a lot of studies get stifled because it's not in the best interest of money-making companies to publish negative reports. Just look at how long it took for BPA to become bad news. Go watch "Tapped" on Netflix to start out with...scary stuff. Thank goodness there are whistleblowers out there who feel the need to alert the public instead of letting companies cover up the horrible effects (like cancer) of the products.

We still eat tons of garbage in the U.S. that are known to have bad effects & are banned in other countries because they're not stupidly grandfathered in. We ban some of it, but not all of it. There are zillions of articles on them:

http://foodmatters.tv/articles-1/8-additives-from-the-us-that-are-banned-in-other-countries

http://eatlocalgrown.com/article/11944-banned-foods.html

There is a lot of bullshit fud out there regarding MSG. No where else in the world is MSG a problem. But in the US, there is all sorts of "issues" made up by certain groups.
 

Wreckem

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I don't care how you dress it up... if you put the word "Fast" in it, it's "Fast Food".

Um Five Guys is not fast. Its slow compared to fast food. Its faster than Chilis(casual), but substantially slower than fast food.

Five Guys is NOT in the same market as McDonalds/In and Out. So yes that is why it is of higher quality, it is also why its twice as expensive. Of course food that is twice as expensive is better(well should be better, Five Guys is garbage). For the price of Five Guys, I'd rather go to Red Robin. Wait is about the same, price is about the same and Red Robin Burgers >>>>>>>Five Guys Bugers.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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MSG is the addictive substance McDonalds uses to keep lemmings coming back for more. Sugar doesn't hold a candle to the addictive power of MSG.

MSG isn't addictive. We Americans somehow picked up on it being bad like we did with vaccines, but it definitely has it's uses and "Chinese restaurant syndrome" turns out to be rare and when a ton of it is used.

I'm hungry now.
 

Kaido

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Feb 14, 2004
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But in the US, there is all sorts of "issues" made up by certain groups.

There's always two sides to every story. Here's a really good article: (a bit long, but worth the read)

If MSG is so bad for you, why doesn't everyone in Asia have a headache?

Is MSG bad for you? Who knows. Googling brings up a bunch of addiction-related links, but you get the same amount results if you google "MSG is not addictive". Depends on how you want to look at it...millions of people consume MSG every day and only a percentage of users have a reaction or get sick, and not 100% have cancer, so a blanket statement that it is or is not bad for you doesn't really apply. And some stuff is time-delay instead of instant-reaction. And you're going to die anyway, at some point, so you have to pick your battles.
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
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MSG isn't addictive. We Americans somehow picked up on it being bad like we did with vaccines, but it definitely has it's uses and "Chinese restaurant syndrome" turns out to be rare and when a ton of it is used.

I'm hungry now.

But what if I put MSG in my vaccines? :hmm:
 
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