is there Any alternative Processor makers except Intel and AMD?

[Zodiark1593]

Absolutely, but what fraction of the market is that, really? I'd wager that the majority of consumers only use tablets or PCs for consumption.

Desktops will always have a place as a tool for business, technology, and media creation, but the actual number of people who do those things is probably less than a third (and I'm being generous) of the American population. Furthermore, of those that do use the computer as a tool, the vast majority aren't doing processor-intensive tasks, and could easily have survived with a computer from a decade ago. As a result, it will be the phone/tablet market that drives technological development in the future, and whether Intel has a stranglehold on the desktop market will be less important to most consumers.

For the bolded part: Looking at the people I know, I'd consider a tenth to be optimistic.

Here's my take on it though. The desktop in the future will provide an in-between for the inexpensive tablet/smartphone segment, and the uber-expensive server computers. While the mobile segment will most likely destroy the bargin-bin desktop segment (where users considering either option need relatively little CPU power) I predict that the mid-end and high-end desktop segments will remain steady, where such users need more flexibility, and much greater compute power without spending an arm and two legs.

Now, the part I'm quite iffy about (as lack of competition causes stagnation). Because there is such an abundance of programs and games that run only on x86, a full migration to a new architecture(s) will be a very slow and painful process for everyone that uses such programs (PC gamers will especially be feeling the pain as older games will likely be left behind). Realistically, unless we have an architecture that can emulate x86 code especially fast, It's doubtful Intel's position on the desktop market will change anytime soon. A particularly bad scenario could be a gamer needing multiple PCs (of differing architectures) to play both older and newer games alike. (I can easily play games from the 1990s on my Nehalem-based laptop, quite a nice advantage with PC gaming)

 

[Argosy]

DMP electronics makes x86 SOCs called Vortex86

http://www.dmp.com.tw/

 

[Halvarus]

I prefer not to support war nations, and because Intel is deeply involved in nation(s) which support warfare and occupation of foreign territory, I prefer to buy AMD instead of INTEL, but I have to say, when it comes to laptops it's not easy. I want a ultrabook kind of pc, like the Zenbook, but really hard to find something like that with AMD, anybody knows of something?

It should have a non-intel processor, support 8 GB of momory, have a good 13" IPS HD screen with good contrast and preferably be lightweight. I might compromise the lightweight thing.

I know Asus has some AMD laptops at low cost, but with not so high performance. HP has some AMD laptops, I don't know anything about them. I had some HP computers, some with good quality and some with bad quality, someone knows a HP laptop with AMD and with the rest of my specs?

Any help is greatly appreciated !!
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[mrmt]

I prefer not to support war nations, and because Intel is deeply involved in nation(s) which support warfare and occupation of foreign territory, I prefer to buy AMD instead of INTEL

What about AMD using minerals from non-audited conflict-free smelters, anything do say about it?

 

[NTMBK]

I prefer not to support war nations, and because Intel is deeply involved in nation(s) which support warfare and occupation of foreign territory, I prefer to buy AMD instead of INTEL, but I have to say, when it comes to laptops it's not easy. I want a ultrabook kind of pc, like the Zenbook, but really hard to find something like that with AMD, anybody knows of something?

It should have a non-intel processor, support 8 GB of momory, have a good 13" IPS HD screen with good contrast and preferably be lightweight. I might compromise the lightweight thing.

I know Asus has some AMD laptops at low cost, but with not so high performance. HP has some AMD laptops, I don't know anything about them. I had some HP computers, some with good quality and some with bad quality, someone knows a HP laptop with AMD and with the rest of my specs?

Any help is greatly appreciated !!
(¯`'•.¸(¯`'•.¸ HAPPY DAYS ¸.•'´¯)¸.•'´¯)

AMD fabs with and has strong ties to GlobalFoundries, who are owned by the ethically dubious Abu Dhabi government.

 

[Halvarus]

I assumed (and hoped) someone would enlighten me more about AMD, because I don't know a lot about them. Intel has caught a bad political reputation, so they are being watched, but then I guess the other companies can probably get away with a lot of stuff at the same time.

No I am not saying any of the processor corporates are angles.

Anyway, i found this computer which has AMD and seems to have a good screen, but only 6 GB momory. I might check it out. It's already 2 years old but has at least a good price. I hope it's not noisy.
Asus U38N-C4014H
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Update-Asus-VivoBook-U38N-C4004H-Notebook.93329.0.html

 

[Halvarus]

I did not quite get the meaning of "using minerals from non-audited conflict-free smelters"
?

 

[NTMBK]

I assumed (and hoped) someone would enlighten me more about AMD, because I don't know a lot about them. Intel has caught a bad political reputation, so they are being watched, but then I guess the other companies can probably get away with a lot of stuff at the same time.

Is this "bad political reputation" because they happen to have factories in Israel? :hmm:

 

[Halvarus]

Exactly. They invest heavily in Israel. And they receive lots of money from the Isreali government to expand in Isreal. Now of course I don't have anything against the people working for Intel in Isreal. But I think if Intel chooses to invest their money in a nation which is periodically invading and occupying foreign territory without being the victim of any really large attacks, the least thing Intel should do is to publicly express that they do not support the Israeli attacks and occupations.

 

[NTMBK]

Exactly. They invest heavily in Israel. And they receive lots of money from the Isreali government to expand in Isreal. Now of course I don't have anything against the people working for Intel in Isreal. But I think if Intel chooses to invest their money in a nation which is periodically invading and occupying foreign territory without being the victim of any really large attacks, the least thing Intel should do is to publicly express that they do not support the Israeli attacks and occupations.

Politics and News is that way ->>>

 

[Halvarus]

Well, my question was not about politics. I was wondering if anyone knows a relatively up to date ultrabook with a non-intel processor. I found the asus I mentioned, I guess that could be an option. Does HP have anything good? It must have good build quality.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Well, my question was not about politics. I was wondering if anyone knows a relatively up to date ultrabook with a non-intel processor. I found the asus I mentioned, I guess that could be an option. Does HP have anything good? It must have good build quality.

Wrong part of the forum as well.
http://forums.anandtech.com/forumdisplay.php?f=23

 

[Exophase]

I prefer not to support war nations, and because Intel is deeply involved in nation(s) which support warfare and occupation of foreign territory

You mean Israel, right? AMD has an R&D facility in Israel too.

 

[mrmt]

Exactly. They invest heavily in Israel. And they receive lots of money from the Isreali government to expand in Isreal. Now of course I don't have anything against the people working for Intel in Isreal. But I think if Intel chooses to invest their money in a nation which is periodically invading and occupying foreign territory without being the victim of any really large attacks, the least thing Intel should do is to publicly express that they do not support the Israeli attacks and occupations.

What about buying minerals from conflict zones controlled by warlords, slave traders and others? For example, AMD refused to enter a program in Congo to purge its supply chain of conflict minerals. What do you say about it?

 

[GreenChile]

I prefer not to support war nations, and because Intel is deeply involved in nation(s) which support warfare and occupation of foreign territory, I prefer to buy AMD instead of INTEL,

And some people are smart enough to not bring racial bias into their computer purchase decision making process.

The hypocrisy of your position has not escaped me either. http://www.amd.com/en-us/who-we-are/contact/locations

Israel
​AMD Israel Advanced Micro Devices Israel Ltd.
Gibor Sport Bldg. (28th floor)
7 Menachem Begin Rd.
Ramat Gan 52681
Israel
Tel: +972 3 7235353
Fax: +972 3 5448881
R&D and Design

Shame on you!

 

[Abwx]

And some people are smart enough to not bring racial bias into their computer purchase decision making process.

The hypocrisy of your position has not escaped me either. http://www.amd.com/en-us/who-we-are/contact/locations

Israel
​AMD Israel Advanced Micro Devices Israel Ltd.
Gibor Sport Bldg. (28th floor)
7 Menachem Begin Rd.
Ramat Gan 52681
Israel
Tel: +972 3 7235353
Fax: +972 3 5448881
R&D and Design

This prove that AMD are not stupid...and have very good lawyers.

 

[blackened23]

Exactly. They invest heavily in Israel. And they receive lots of money from the Isreali government to expand in Isreal. Now of course I don't have anything against the people working for Intel in Isreal. But I think if Intel chooses to invest their money in a nation which is periodically invading and occupying foreign territory without being the victim of any really large attacks, the least thing Intel should do is to publicly express that they do not support the Israeli attacks and occupations.

Wow, really?

 

[Halvarus]

Thanks for bringing up this information. Will look into it. Would be nice if there was some decent company to buy a laptop processor from, but maybe there simply is not. Well, just because AMD has an address in Israel doesn't mean they have major production or development there. And of course, whatever bad AMD does, I don't support that.

Could be that evolution makes companies with a moral disappear. Survival of the fittest and so on... Having a moral tends to make companies earn less money and lose market to competitors. According to the law, companies are only obligated to earn money, not to have a moral (as long as they do things legally).

It's anyway strange that there are basically 2-3 main companies selling processors for modern laptops. Aren't anyone else interested in getting into this market? Or maybe it's very difficult to survive in this business with low production volume. Producing one million or two million processors might cost about the same for all I know.

 

[Markfw]

OK. Im, locking this, since it has turned Political. Also, its about laptops, and there is a forum for that. If you want to continue, post there.