Is there any natural medicine for stress/anxiety?

StinkyPinky

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I'm an anxious person by nature and have a nervous disposition. A few days ago my mother passed away unexpectedly which has obviously made me even more anxious. I'm trying to control my blood pressure and of course stress such as that makes it worse.

I don't really want to get involved with drugs that reduce stress/anxiety because I've read some of the nasty side effects like total personality changes etc which I don't want to deal with.

Has anyone tried the likes of chamomile tea? I've read it impacts the same part of the brain as valium and that a study suggested it does help, but I'd rather get opinions from anyone that's actually tried the stuff.
 

DigDog

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honestly, only exercise helps.

weed is a honest to god wonder medicine, but it will not prevent any emotional change, and unless you already smoke it, now (a death in the family) is not a good moment to start.

personally i'd stay away from valium or any other prescription, all they do is clog up your emotions and do more damage over time.

just find a moment of the day for yourself, and some activity you can practice. music, meditation, woodwork, painting ... sounds silly but it works.
 

herm0016

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Rescue remedy works well and is all natural and such. Available online and at whole foods and similar.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I'm an anxious person by nature and have a nervous disposition. A few days ago my mother passed away unexpectedly which has obviously made me even more anxious. I'm trying to control my blood pressure and of course stress such as that makes it worse.

I don't really want to get involved with drugs that reduce stress/anxiety because I've read some of the nasty side effects like total personality changes etc which I don't want to deal with.

Has anyone tried the likes of chamomile tea? I've read it impacts the same part of the brain as valium and that a study suggested it does help, but I'd rather get opinions from anyone that's actually tried the stuff.

Chamomile tea works well as does Valerian. The thing to remember is 99% of all drugs on the market are derived from herbs and natural sources. The point I'm trying to make is never assume herbal teas, essences, oils etc. are less potent or have fewer side effects. They tend to but, vary with the individual just like any prescription drug. Valerian tea works quite well for me.
 

utahraptor

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If you drink a lot of soda or coffee, cutting down could turn down the jitters. Also, getting a full night's sleep can really help. Try setting a firm bed time.
 

purbeast0

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sorry for your loss

the passing of my father 5 years ago actually made me develop anxiety. when i was a very little kid i used to have it somewhat, but it was attributed to my parents getting divorced.

but the night my dad passed away, i basically had a panic attack while i was sleeping. ever since then i still have them sometimes. they always happen while i'm sleeping, and now i know how to control it a little better, and i have some xanax for it, but it doesn't always help and it takes itme for that medicine to work. but i try to control it with slow deep breaths.

i also workout and exercise regularly, so it's not like i am not relieving stress when doing that.

it just sucks that i don't feel stressed about anything or whatever, and i will still get the anxiety when i'm sleeping, or right as i'm about to fall asleep. it really sucks not being able to sleep because of it.
 

Kaido

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My anxiety was caused by undiagnosed food allergies. Gluten caused constant low-level anxiety; dairy caused panic attacks. Zero issues since removing them from my diet. 20+ years of anxiety issues gone in a week. Just throwing it out there.
 

NAC

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I'm very sorry for your loss.

Exercise is the best. Push yourself in workouts and you'll feel better afterwards.

I do find that chamomile and other non-caffeinated teas are relaxing. Add in low lighting, relaxing music, maybe a book and no TV / computer / phones / screens of any sort - and you are on your way to a boring and relaxing evening. Boring is okay though, sometimes you need some boredom to slow down.

It is hard to create a habit like relaxing. I do sometimes, and am always happy when I do. But, more evenings than I would like, I end up in front of this glowing screen until later than I want doing nothing in particular.
 

angminas

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My anxiety was caused by undiagnosed food allergies. Gluten caused constant low-level anxiety; dairy caused panic attacks. Zero issues since removing them from my diet. 20+ years of anxiety issues gone in a week. Just throwing it out there.

I am also sensitive to gluten and dairy, though I have different symptoms. I'd be interested to hear anything and everything about your diet, meal planning, etc.
 

inachu

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I have coming in the mail on monday the pill they call viagra for your brain.

It is supposed to lower stress and natural extreme focus and reports say it will increase your IQ by 77 points.
It is on sale at amazon and they say it is the real version of the fiction pill from the movie LIMITLESS.


The type of pill you may want to google is a "Nootropic"
 
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purbeast0

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My anxiety was caused by undiagnosed food allergies. Gluten caused constant low-level anxiety; dairy caused panic attacks. Zero issues since removing them from my diet. 20+ years of anxiety issues gone in a week. Just throwing it out there.

how did you link the two together to find this out?
 

Mr. Pedantic

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Rescue remedy Is a brand name. Come as drops or a spray. What are you talking about?

Are you aware of or familiar with homeopathic remedies in general? Because Rescue Remedy is just water with a small amount of brandy in it.
 

colonel

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This is my story. I hope it helps someone somewhere. In August, my heart started beating so fast at frst I thought i was dying. My legs sank and was overwhelmed with panic and fear. i went to see a doctor hardly being able to walk. I felt dizzy and almost fainted. The doctor measured my blood pressure and it was120 and 80. It was apparently high. He assured me there had been nothing to worry about. However, the symptoms continued as i suffered from high blood pressure, tachycardia, dizziness, lightheadedness, fatigue, hyperglecemia, irregular heartbeat, apathy, panic, anxiety and pale looking skin. Later, I visited a cardiologist. A heart doctor who assured me that there is nothing wrong with my physical body. Then he prescribed me a magnisium supplement. Within 2 months all my symptoms vanished. A ll I had was a severe magnisium deficiency. Please if you happen to have the same symptoms you may want to take magnisium supplementations. I daily take 2 pills Magnesium Taurate 400mg and I feel like new.
 

Kaido

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how did you link the two together to find this out?

So basically I am allergic to dairy & grains (including gluten). I lump allergies into 3 categories:

1. Internal reactions
2. External reactions
3. Death

Internal reactions are stuff like anxiety, panic attacks, stomach pain & cramps, asthma, depression, headaches, back & joint pain, nausea, constantly running or stuffy nose, poor memory, ADHD, no energy, "brain fog", feeling cold all the time, being tired all the time, insomnia, restless leg syndrome, etc. External reactions are like eczema on your skin, dry skin, rashes, swelling, etc. Those are more considered intolerances than allergies, I guess, or like a low-level anaphylaxis...there's a lot of crossover. Death is when you're really severely allergic, like when you get anaphylaxis & hives and die if you don't get an Epipen, like if you eat peanuts or get stung by a bee & you're super allergic to that.

It was about a 5-year process for me to learn about my food allergies; it was very difficult. I had no concept of food allergies or that they applied to me. Now it's easy - you just tell someone to go on the elimination diet, which I'll explain later. Anyway, for starters, I had a normal childhood until I had some kidney problems & needed surgery; after that, I was sick all the time. Dairy allergies are common after major invasive surgeries; gluten & grain allergies are common after heavy doses of antibiotics, which sometimes kills the good gut flora in your upper GI tract. Sometimes it's hereditary, sometimes you simply eat too much of something & develop an allergy as you get older. The origin story is pretty much all over the place & can happen at any time. Plus it varies - sometimes you're born with it and it goes away or lessens over time, sometimes as you get older, you develop sensitivities. It's a real mess to diagnose, haha.

Anyway, I have internal reactions. The only really visible issues I had growing up were dark circles under my eyes, which no one ever noticed because I wore glasses, and pale skin and a bit of eczema on my upper arms (small red bumps, nothing major). Also had acne issue, which flares up if I eat certain foods on my no-no list. But it wasn't anything crazy visible like not being able to breathe, or my lips swelling up, or getting a huge rash or hives, or anything like that. By the way, dark circles under the eyes are called "allergic shiners" and are an easy way to tell if you have some sort of food intolerance...when you're just tired, your eyes usually only get puffy, not dark. Allergic shiners are linked to sinus issues, which may be noticeable or may not be - stuffy nose, runny nose, always clearing your throat, one nostril always gummed up, that sort of thing.

Internal reactions are the most difficult to diagnose because a lot of them affect behavior, mood, or your ability to think. And the same foods can affect people differently. For example, if I drink milk, I get a whole slew of problems: sinuses go bonkers, super nauseas, panic attacks, etc. However, I know a guy who swells up like he was in a boxing match - turns purple & red all over, puffy lips, major breathing issues. So I have an internal reaction, he has an external reaction plus some anaphylaxis - has to carry an Epipen everywhere just in case.

But it's different for different foods - if I eat gluten, I get ADHD, brain fog, feel cold, have RLS, lose all motivation & don't care about anything, it's basically like flipping an emotional switch - I get scatterbrained & my endorphins quit pumping so I don't feel happy (or sad, really). I struggled with depression for a long time & was labeled "clinically depressed" - was never really suicidal or anything, just didn't give a crap about anything, felt like nothing mattered. Going off my allergens for a week was like being born again - an enormous night & day difference in my energy, my ability to care about things, my ability to stick with things consistently, etc.

I see the cause & effect very clearly now because I've spent years tracking my diet vs. my physical & emotional results, and have been able to match them up with allergens. But if you show up to a doctor and say "I feel depressed, I'm tired all the time, I have trouble sleeping, I don't feel good, etc." they have no idea that it's food allergies. They usually give you some pills for depression or want you to work out more, go to sleep earlier, and eat better.

What makes it more difficult is that diagnoses tests are not 100% accurate. Because my allergies are internal, NONE of my allergies show up on any blood test, skin-prick test, or any other type of allergy test. Like if you're Celiac & are eating gluten, you can do an IgE test and it will show you right away that you're allergic. But I have a gluten intolerance - that that causes brain fog (hazy thinking), ADHD, and depression - and my IgE test showed nothing. I've done endoscopies, I've seen regular & alternative doctors, I've tried medicine, everything - getting the right diagnoses was all I needed. It was mostly self-diagnosed too...I literally spent thousands trying to fix my issues since I was about to get diagnosed as a hypochondriac, when in reality a mix of food allergies was directly causing all of my issues. Another part of the issue is the time delay. There's basically 3 time delays:

1. Immediate (either instantly or within like 10 minutes)
2. Hours (hits you later, once it starts digesting)
3. 24-hour (delayed reaction)

It partly depends on what I eat. If I eat gluten straight up, like a piece of bread, my IQ drops about 50 points within twenty minutes...I can't think straight, I can't put things together in my head, I get super super tired, etc. But if I have a small amount in other foods, like soy sauce (most soy sauce contains wheat) with a sushi roll, then it can take a couple hours before it hits me. I saw amazing results within a week of being off gluten, although allergists will tell you that it really takes about 3 weeks for your body to clear all of the gluten completely out of your system.

One clue for me was that I always felt better when I didn't eat. Not that I was anorexic or anything, but sometimes I'd get busy and skip breakfast or lunch, and be feeling pretty good by the end of the day. Waking up groggy is a huge red flag...if you don't get enough sleep, you should only wake up tired, not groggy. If you're not awake instantly when you wake up, that almost always means something is wrong with your diet. Also, I had good days & bad days...I didn't know it, but it depended on what I ate, and sometimes it wouldn't hit me until the next day, so I'd have eggs for breakfast and then start feeling crappy later, even though it was the bread I had had with dinner the previous night.

If you have any of those laundry-list of symptoms on a recurring basis, the two easiest ways to get diagnosed are to do an allergy test & to do the elimination diet, keeping in mind that allergy tests are not 100% accurate, it's more like reading tea leaves than an actual medical test because they can't test for everything there is - only stuff that can show up on a blood test. A true elimination diet is really hard. I did a basic one halfway through my own medical research, but as it turns out, I'm allergic to grains, which includes corn - and corn is in literally EVERYTHING! Even if it's not labelled...a lot of oils, even 100% olive oil or canola oil, have corn mixed into them in some way.

The elimination diet is basically going off the top allergens for a month or so. You basically have to eat really bland food for awhile - as easy as that sounds, it's not easy at all. A lot of times you crave what you're allergic to, partially because you're not absorbing what's in the food, and partially because your body produces a reaction, which makes you feel good temporarily, so you subconsciously associate eating your allergen with feeling "better". One clue here is if you have a favorite daily food that you eat a lot of - for wheat & sugar, that could be beer, pasta, bread, or maybe popcorn or anything like that. They've actually started calling the mental side of the reactions "brain allergies" in some cases:

http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/brainallergies.htm

I'd be willing to be that a large majority of people with mental health issues are actually just on a recurring diet that contains their allergens. A lot of kids with aspergers or autistism get a lot of relief when they go off dairy, for example. I read a few studies that said that sugar doesn't make kids hyper...I didn't really believe it until I learned that my hyperactivity was a result of food allergies, which includes sugarcane, which is a grain in the grass family. I can have a cup of beet sugar (used interchangeable with sugarcane) without feeling wired at all, so when you see certain kids go bananas when they eat sugary treats or have stuff with lots of preservatives, I'd say that's almost always a food allergen reaction.

Anyway, I could go on forever about this stuff. I was a mess for most of my life. School was horrible, work was horrible, going out into public was horrible, being social was horrible. Went off all allergens, did a complete 180. I work an average of 60 hours a week now and still have plenty of energy to do other things. Studying is easy. I feel good all day long - no more headaches, stomachaches, feeling nauseas, feeling depressed, not being able to focus, and on and on and on. Crowds don't bother me at all. I don't feel bad all the time anymore. It's not clear-cut until you get the right diagnoses & learn all of the buzzwords to avoid...for example, corn has at least 60 product names I'm aware of, such as dextrose, so I have to avoid regular salt that uses dextrose as an anti-clump ingredient. It's real fun :awe:
 

Kaido

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This is my story. I hope it helps someone somewhere. In August, my heart started beating so fast at frst I thought i was dying. My legs sank and was overwhelmed with panic and fear. i went to see a doctor hardly being able to walk. I felt dizzy and almost fainted. The doctor measured my blood pressure and it was120 and 80. It was apparently high. He assured me there had been nothing to worry about. However, the symptoms continued as i suffered from high blood pressure, tachycardia, dizziness, lightheadedness, fatigue, hyperglecemia, irregular heartbeat, apathy, panic, anxiety and pale looking skin. Later, I visited a cardiologist. A heart doctor who assured me that there is nothing wrong with my physical body. Then he prescribed me a magnisium supplement. Within 2 months all my symptoms vanished. A ll I had was a severe magnisium deficiency. Please if you happen to have the same symptoms you may want to take magnisium supplementations. I daily take 2 pills Magnesium Taurate 400mg and I feel like new.

Had a friend who had an iron deficiency with similar problems. It's definitely worth it to do a blood test to see if you're deficient in any vitamins or minerals, or if you have allergies. She started taking an iron supplement & started feeling a ton better in pretty short order :thumbsup: Sometimes it's diet-related (not eating enough of X or Y food), sometimes there's another problem that's preventing absorption.
 

Kaido

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I am also sensitive to gluten and dairy, though I have different symptoms. I'd be interested to hear anything and everything about your diet, meal planning, etc.

So I was initially allergic to gluten & dairy, and finally figured out it was everything in the grass/grains family, which includes oatmeal, rice, sugarcane, and so on. Although most of those aren't nearly as bad as my reactions to straight-up dairy or wheat, so I cheat sometimes and have rice (rices gives me vision floaters the entire next day - extremely specific reaction & timeframe - but that's it, it's just really annoying). So that's my background - I cook grain-free, plus dairy-free, which is a bit of an extra challenge, so be aware that some of the stuff I link you to may be a little over-the-top if you can handle other non-gluten grains like corn & oatmeal.

Basically, I try to make everything at home myself. I have a truckload of appliances to make cooking easier. I do eat out from time to time (usually don't feel super hot after, but there's a few specific restaurants that are very helpful with allergies), and if I'm careful, stuff like sushi or Thai usually aren't a big problem - my local sushi place has gluten-free soy sauce, or I just bring my own. The bottom line is, if you're willing to cook, you can eat as much delicious food as you want. The downside is, you have to cook EVERYTHING yourself, and all of the special ingredients are expensive. I started keeping notes on my webpage...I've been filling it out for the past year or so, there's a few good recipes on it so far:

http://catch42.pbworks.com/w/page/67736823/Food Stuff

My chicken nuggets are fantastic:

http://catch42.pbworks.com/w/page/81958367/Chicken Nuggets

My ice cream is really good, especially the chocolate-avocado: (sounds gross but it's actually super awesome)

http://catch42.pbworks.com/w/page/78976952/Ice Cream

These chocolate-chip cookies are the bomb:

http://catch42.pbworks.com/w/page/78284306/Chocolate Chip Cookies

I recently started using arrowroot flour a lot more. It makes fantastic tortillas, which are especially good for breakfast burritos: (which I then freeze so I can simply microwave them later for breakfast, so I don't have to cook every day)

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37029639&postcount=15

That recipe base also works for waffles, funnel cakes, pizzelle cookies, and popovers (Yorkshire puddings). For cupcakes, I use this recipe: (I use maple syrup instead of agave nectar)

http://powerhungry.com/2013/08/coconut-flour-cupcakes-master-recipe-gluten-free-grain-free/

I use these plain for fake cornbread muffins (since I can't have corn...these are good with chili), as well as for cupcakes. For the cupcake frosting, I use palm shortening, powdered sugar, vanilla, and either leave it plain-vanilla or add some chocolate or whatever flavor I want. These Snickers bars are amazing too:

http://detoxinista.com/2013/09/healthy-snickers-bars-vegan/

Since I love cooking but kind of hate having to do it every day, I've been doing more with make-ahead meals - mainly frozen meals. I found some disposable TV dinner trays online that I buy in bulk, which lets me make a bunch of something (chili, meatloaf, whatever) & then freeze it with some sides like veggies to reheat in the microwave later. Thread here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=36965205

I recommend signing up for a free Evernote account to store your favorite recipes. It can be hard to find stuff that actually tastes good, which is why I started notes online to share. One easy trick, since you're not allergic to grains, is to use Paleo recipes, which are naturally gluten & dairy free (the only exception is that they use ghee in some recipes, which is clarified butter, but you can substitute coconut oil in for most of those). Here are some great resources:

http://catch42.pbworks.com/w/page/80930720/Food Blogs

On the plus side, I can now make a dinner of chicken nuggets, french fries, and ice cream and feeling totally fine afterwards. It's a pain to cook, but it's an even bigger pain to feel crummy all the time. Doing make-ahead meals is what's saving my life right now. I just picked up an additional small chest-style deep-freezer for my kitchen & mounted my microwave above it, so if I need quick food, I can pick something out, nuke it, and have safe food in a minute or two. It's a huge pain at first to do all of this, but you get used to it over time, plus it's helped me with my health & fitness goals (going off dairy alone & cleaning up my diet = 50 pounds lost!), so that's an added bonus. Feel free to PM me anytime if you get stuck with food, it's not an easy gig being allergic to all the fun stuff in the world of food :awe:
 

FeuerFrei

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phosphatidyl-serine

vinpocetine
- might help too

I use both.

Or kava kava if you don't mind experimenting and want to feel kind of limp with your mind clear. Careful though - might need a block of free time till it wears off. Not exactly recommending, just suggesting.
 

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Yes, wake up 2 hours earlier than you normally do. Drink 3 glasses of water. Wait 30 minutes then go workout (hard) for an hour, then come back, and take a hot shower, this will take the anxious edge off of you. Waking up around 5am and doing physical activity can help a lot of issues!
 

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There are having many safe products which are good to get out of stress and anxiety. This will work from the mind techniques to supplements calming teas. There are having some supplements which works on the right away and some take tome to remove the anxiety or stress. The name of natural supplement are such as chamomile, L-theanine(Green tea), Catnip, Fennel, Kava Kava etc.there are having some herbs which are very effective for aneixity.
 

z1ggy

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Lavender oil I hear is soothing. Also, a product called Calms Forte is supposed to help you relax a bit.
 

Sheep221

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I recommend to basically get a treatment for your anxiety, if it's severe enough that it impairs your daily function you may be diagnosed with specific anxiety disorder or comorbidity of several anxiety disorders and treatment is usually antidepressants and psychotherapy. I don't recommend going with either benzos, since they are not effective in long term(and anxiety is chronic illness) or solely with homeopatics. You don't want to treat symptoms you want to treat the illness. It usually works that way: antidepressants help manage your symptoms and restore your neurological balance while you work on your anxious thinking patterns and feelings in psychotherapy.

Don't be ashamed to get help, I suffer from multiple ADs and walking into psychiatric clinic was best move I could do. Medications for outpatient treatment are very safe, all the QQ and BS about it causing diabetes and personality changes are all lies from people who never had psychiatric illness and never been treated with said drugs, side effects are mild to none, usually they completely disappear after few weeks.
For severe panic disorder, beta blockers are sometimes prescribed but with that I have no personal experience.
Psychotherapy allows you to basically ventilate what's inside you and just talk about your problems and receive advices is good place to lessen your anxiety.
In-patients are getting in case of emergency stronger and more risky meds but they are under constant supervision in hospital so if anything happens doctors are right there to help.
 
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