Is there anyway to get the LILO boot loader on to the C:\...

[NOX]

Is there anyway to get the LILO boot loader on to the C:\ (hda1) even thought I installed it on another partition (Linux partition hda9)? Thanks.

 

[NOX]

I just tried this:

[boot loader]
timeout=20
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition"
H:/dev/hda9="Linux Mandrake 7.2"

but no luck.

 

[SemperFi]

I am assuming that the 2000 and 98 boot fine with the w2k bootloader. What you need is a bootstrap file that has to be a certain size. When setting up my triple boot system I found SUOrangeman's post invaluable. Near the bottom he gives the command you use in linux and how to add it to w2k bootloader.

I did find the command somewhat confusing but that was because I am not familiar with linux commands at all. I think I had to type it out 8 to 10 times along with what i found at other sites to help me understand the command.

Any how if you have a problem pm me or post back.

 

[NOX]

YGPM

 

[NOX]

I saw how someone else had did theirs. They installed Win98, Win2k and then Linux (which I did). But they also installe LILO on to the hda, which I did not, I installed it onto the Linux partition hda9.

What happens when he boots is he'll get the LILO boot loader, then he'll have the option to boot into Linux or Win2k. If he boots into Win2k he then gets the Win2k boot loader, which will give him the option to boot into Win98 or Win2k.

So, is it posible for me to install the LILO into the hda partition if I already did into another partition (hda9)?

Thanks.

 

[JokerF15]

id like to know that also..someone help a poor man out.

 

[Damaged]

SemperFi,

Why wouldn't you just post the info since that what he sems to be asking for? Why on earth would you only share that information in a PM? For the love of...these kind of responses just baffle me.

And this is probably the only problem and I don't dink about Win2K and or it's bootloader program:


<< H:/dev/hda9=&quot;Linux Mandrake 7.2&quot; >>


You honestly think Win2K knows WTF /dev/hda9 is? It's H:\. Just H:\

 

[Ewu]

if u have a linux bootdisk .. get into your linux partition... and on the console type:

dd if=/dev/hda9 of=linux.bin bs=512 count=1

since u have it on partition hd9. What this does is grab the first 512 bytes.. or in your case, where lilo resides. If you want to have lilo boot off the mbr or hda, just edit lilo.conf to do so.

After typing the command it should create a file namely: linux.bin
Assuming u know how to move the file into the C: drive. Then edit the boot.ini file, so that it should say

c:\linux.bin=&quot;Linux&quot;

Pretty much u should be able to boot into linux thru NT loader. I did it on my system plenty of times.

Btw. linux.bin should be only 512 bytes

 

[Damaged]

You're joking with that last response right? You're going to output the entire contents of /dev/hda9, which you have no idea what it is or how big it is, then you're going to make it a file called linux.bin and then call that file in a bootloader?

This oughta be cool to watch not even come close to working.

 

[Ewu]

Damaged:

Believe it or not. It does work... personally use it many times to triple boot my systems including the one I'm using right now.

What &quot;dd if=/dev/hda9 of=linux.bin bs=512 count=1&quot; does is read the first 512 bytes of the linux partition and writes it into a file. The first 512 bytes being where LILO would reside. Hence why it should be only 512 bytes long. Only without the &quot;count=1&quot; would u get a huge file of junk.

Of course, if u ever update your kernel you would have to do the same procedure again.

*Note: I learned this little trick from the Unix System Administration HandBook 3rd. Edition. Chapter 2, Page 21.

 

[Damaged]

I understand that in theory that can and will work, but my real problem here is that we have a user who thinks Win2K understands something like /dev/hda, so I'm a little leary about believing that /dev/hda9 is actually where he chose to install LILO.

Hmm, though in re-reading my initial response I didn't quite come off that well. Oh well, sorry, but this entire thread is pretty much pissing me the fsck off right now. So I'll just let it be and let someone else help out here.

 

[NOX]

<< You honestly think Win2K knows WTF /dev/hda9 is? It's H:\. Just H:\ >>

I tried H:\ just H:\, it didn?t work.

<< You're joking with that last response right? You're going to output the entire contents of /dev/hda9, which you have no idea what it is or how big it is, then you're going to make it a file called linux.bin and then call that file in a bootloader? >>

The linux.bin does work! I used it before while dual booting Win2k and Linux, but for some reason it is not working for my multi boot system, that is why I?m here, and trying to do anything to make it work!

This is what it would look like using linux.bin:

[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT=&quot;Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional&quot; /fastdetect
C:\linux.bin=&quot;Linux Mandrake 7.2&quot;

This is what I was trying at first:

[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT=&quot;Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional&quot; /fastdetect
C:\=?Windows 98 Second Edition?
C:\linux.bin=&quot;Linux Mandrake 7.2&quot;

And my linux.bin info looks like this:

boot=/dev/hda9
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
iba32
message=/boot/message
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda9?

<< I understand that in theory that can and will work, but my real problem here is that we have a user who thinks Win2K understands something like /dev/hda, so I'm a little leary about believing that /dev/hda9 is actually where he chose to install LILO. >>

Believe what you want, because that?s where my linux OS is situated, on hda9 (root), hda10 swap, and hda11 home!

<< Hmm, though in re-reading my initial response I didn't quite come off that well. Oh well, sorry, but this entire thread is pretty much pissing me the fsck off right now. So I'll just let it be and let someone else help out here. >>

Is that so, oh well then maybe next time you should shut the fvck up, before coming into some ones thread and spewing your sarcasm! You can take your sour pissing ass out somewhere else! You have nothing to add that would even come close to a solution so why even post?

penguinhelper.com, yeah sure!

<< This oughta be cool to watch not even come close to working. >>

Read here: Little White Dog

You should pay more attention to your sig.

 

[SemperFi]

Damaged, I was about to respond somewhat unkind but I scrolled up and saw that I botched the link to the instructions. Sorry. Any how I ment to pm me if he had problems following the post that suorangeman posted. Sorry about the confusion. I was pretty tired.

 

[NOX]

SemperFi,

Don?t worry about it; some people just don?t know how to communicate.

 

[Damaged]

NOX,

I communicate perfectly well. Apparently a little too well for you since you took offense to my remarks.

It's rare that I'll EVER say anything remotely nasty here, but quite honestly, did you really think that putting /dev/hd anything in a Win bootloader was going to work? Win isn't Linux and vice versa. Windows has no clue what /dev/hd is. That's how Linux see's things.

Do you have any idea how many times this same question is asked every week? I believe you think you're asking something new here, but you're not. People don't use the search function on these boards, and apparently don't know what a search engine is for either. It's really disappointing. Especially for someone who's been here as long as you have.

Finally, I could've edited my remarks, and I'll agree that they were/are a little harsh, but it's nothing personal, it simply has to do with your approach. If you're taking it personally, don't. I didn't say that you were stupid, as you seem to imply in your post, if you read my sig, this would definitely be along the lines of ignorance NOT stupdity. Unless you'd care to prove me wrong on that, but I'm hoping you won't.

 

[NOX]

<< did you really think that putting /dev/hd anything in a Win bootloader was going to work? Win isn't Linux and vice versa. Windows has no clue what /dev/hd is. That's how Linux see's things. >>

I was running out of options, I tried it. No, I did not think it was going to work, but I did it any. I posted it just for the sake of the reader who would be kind enough to give me a hand, which you apparently were not going to do!

<< Do you have any idea how many times this same question is asked every week? I believe you think you're asking something new here, but you're not. People don't use the search function on these boards, and apparently don't know what a search engine is for either. It's really disappointing. Especially for someone who's been here as long as you have. >>

So what! That doesn?t change the fact I?m asking for information! People will post it in their own way, or form of a question! If it?s that disappointing to you, that much! I suggest you leave this place, because sh1t like this will happen. It does happen all the time, and there is nothing you or I can do about it.

<< Finally, I could've edited my remarks, and I'll agree that they were/are a little harsh, but it's nothing personal, it simply has to do with your approach. If you're taking it personally, don't. I didn't say that you were stupid, as you seem to imply in your post, if you read my sig, this would definitely be along the lines of ignorance NOT stupdity. Unless you'd care to prove me wrong on that, but I'm hoping you won't. >>

What?s wrong with my approach? I?m asking a damn question if you haven?t noticed! Welcome to a BBS, that?s what we do here you know, ask questions!

Yes, I did take it personal, you?re insulting my intelligence, or ability! Whatever you want to call it! You also doubted the linux.bin method, yet you know nothing about it! Which makes you an ignorant person! Not that you didn?t know about it, but the fact you said it would work.

BTW, if you do a search I?m sure you?ll agree that no one is asking the question I am?

<< (Is there anyway to get the LILO boot loader on to the C:\ (hda1) even thought I installed it on to the Linux partition (hda9)? >>

Yes, there is a way, I found out last night after posting this question, but I?m hesitant to try it, for the fear of not being able to boot back into Windows.)

I?m sure you?ll also agree that there are only 5 topics to do with LILO with no specifics to what I?m asking? I?m sure you?ll also agree that there are only 2 topics to do with multiboot? Also with no specifics to what I?m asking?)

So please, don?t knock me for asking a legitimate question, or anyone else for that matter.

 

[CollegeGuy]

Use bootpart, it will create the necessary boot file for the NT loader to load Linux. All you need to do is add an entry to the boot.ini to reference the Linux boot file. Here is the link.

 

[NOX]

I'll check it out thanks!

 

[SUOrangeman]

Yes, my suggestion is is now bootpart. Why do it by hand when a FREE proggie can do it for you?

Make sure that LILO is install on the boot record of your Linux partition (/dev/hda9 is seems). See were it is now in your /etc/lilo.conf file. The key line is at the top. Rerun 'lilo' to make sure that things are intact. Then go to the DOS/Windows side of the world and run bootpart.

-SUO