good points. we have no way of knowing how to classify "life" out there. but im pretty sure there are intelligent lifeforms out there. has to be.
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Originally posted by: IdioticBuffoon
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
But, my answer is definitely yes, and I believe they may be more developed, and some less developed, but the problem is, on another planet far off from here, maybe in another universe (If you believe in the tunnel theory) what defines life?
Interesting. I think the definition of life remains the same, i.e. a living thing that can function independently. Add intelligence to it and you have an intelligent life form as opposed to flora, coral reefs etc.
True but when we consider that they may not be carbon based (hell they might not even have the same atoms let alone electrons, this stuff is so hard to predict because anything we predict will be like what we know) what type of intelligence could they be capable of? Would intelligence exist, would they need to think?
Scale has nothing to do with probability. It doesn't matter how many times you flip a coin, the odds are the same -- 50/50 -- with each and every flip. Flip all you want, the odds don't change. At this time, we have no idea what the odds on alien life in space are. Despite all the vastness of the universe, it is just as likely that we are alone as that the universe is so crowded with life that there is intelligent life within 10 light-years. We have no idea.Originally posted by: letdown427
I think there is. I see no real reason why there shouldn't be more developed life, less developed life, whatever. Just because we haven't been contacted doesn't discount more intelligent life. Perhaps we just haven't noticed their 'calls',or can't pickup their method of transmission. Or maybe they don't see any reason to contact us? Either way, I think it's pretty likely we aren't alone in the universe.
Also, Vic,
"So what you're saying is that I'm more likely to get more heads than tails if I flip a coin a billion times instead of a hundred? "
What he's saying is that you're more likely to get at least one head if you flip it a billion times instead of a hundred. Which is true.
With "up" being generally defined as the direction opposite the force of gravity, all points in free-fall space are DOWN. In accordance with Newton's 1st Law, once you begin moving in a particular direction and particular velocity in space you will continue doing so until acted on, which in the emptiness of space is not very likely.Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
So what designates up? I know that on earth, up generally indicates the direction opposite the force of gravity. Up is what's above us, relatively speaking. To label ALL of space as existing in 3 dimensions you'd need a reference point right?Originally posted by: chambersc
as far as your first question, mine is the exact opposite. why isn't there an up and down in space. if space if 3d, idk if it actually is, then why not portray it realitsically? i assume that space is 3d and thus, has an up and down.Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Yossarian
sure, there are bound to be lots of Class M planets out there.
I love Star Trek, but everytime I watch a show, 2 questions always come to my mind.
First, why is there an up and a down in space?
Second, when the ship comes to a "full stop" (relative to what I don't know), what relativistic time implications occur to the crew? Do they experience 10 years in a second relative to earth-speed? I mean, who knows? What bit of matter in the universe is NOT moving?
Originally posted by: CPA
Okay, I feel like playing devil's advocate, so feel free to rip me a new one:
Out of all of you who said there is life out there, even though you only have weak probability statistics to support your conclusion, do you believe there is a God?
After all, why shouldn't there be? and probability-wise isn't there a slight chance (even science doesn't support a 0 percent chance that God doesn't exist)? and just because we've never seen Him, doesn't mean he doesn't exist, right?
remember, just playing devil's advocate, I'm not saying there actually is a God.
Originally posted by: Vic
Scale has nothing to do with probability. It doesn't matter how many times you flip a coin, the odds are the same -- 50/50 -- with each and every flip. Flip all you want, the odds don't change. At this time, we have no idea what the odds on alien life in space are. Despite all the vastness of the universe, it is just as likely that we are alone as that the universe is so crowded with life that there is intelligent life within 10 light-years. We have no idea.Originally posted by: letdown427
I think there is. I see no real reason why there shouldn't be more developed life, less developed life, whatever. Just because we haven't been contacted doesn't discount more intelligent life. Perhaps we just haven't noticed their 'calls',or can't pickup their method of transmission. Or maybe they don't see any reason to contact us? Either way, I think it's pretty likely we aren't alone in the universe.
Also, Vic,
"So what you're saying is that I'm more likely to get more heads than tails if I flip a coin a billion times instead of a hundred? "
What he's saying is that you're more likely to get at least one head if you flip it a billion times instead of a hundred. Which is true.
Consider this though: the universe is believed to be ~13 billion years old. It took ~4 billion years for "intelligent" life to evolve on earth. The heavier elements essential to life could not have existed in the universe until the first round of supernovas ejected them from the stars they were formed in. It is quite possible that we are alone.
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CPA
Okay, I feel like playing devil's advocate, so feel free to rip me a new one:
Out of all of you who said there is life out there, even though you only have weak probability statistics to support your conclusion, do you believe there is a God?
After all, why shouldn't there be? and probability-wise isn't there a slight chance (even science doesn't support a 0 percent chance that God doesn't exist)? and just because we've never seen Him, doesn't mean he doesn't exist, right?
remember, just playing devil's advocate, I'm not saying there actually is a God.
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Originally posted by: IdioticBuffoon
My personal thoughts are .. no. Despite the unfathomable expanse of the universe, if there is life out there, I don't think it's more developed than humans.
So, whaddaya guys think? Is there life in the universe other than what's on Earth? And if so, how advanced?
Originally posted by: EngenZerO
in a previous life i was anally probed by aliens...
yes aliens exist...
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CPA
Okay, I feel like playing devil's advocate, so feel free to rip me a new one:
Out of all of you who said there is life out there, even though you only have weak probability statistics to support your conclusion, do you believe there is a God?
After all, why shouldn't there be? and probability-wise isn't there a slight chance (even science doesn't support a 0 percent chance that God doesn't exist)? and just because we've never seen Him, doesn't mean he doesn't exist, right?
remember, just playing devil's advocate, I'm not saying there actually is a God.
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Originally posted by: TBone48
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CPA
Okay, I feel like playing devil's advocate, so feel free to rip me a new one:
Out of all of you who said there is life out there, even though you only have weak probability statistics to support your conclusion, do you believe there is a God?
After all, why shouldn't there be? and probability-wise isn't there a slight chance (even science doesn't support a 0 percent chance that God doesn't exist)? and just because we've never seen Him, doesn't mean he doesn't exist, right?
remember, just playing devil's advocate, I'm not saying there actually is a God.
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Roswell and Crop Circles are not proof of ET life.Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
We already have an example of one form, we do not have an example for the other.
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