Is there not a single good ~9-10" tablet?

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bassoprofundo

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I found a refurbished Dell Venue 11 Pro for just over 400. FHD screen, 256GB ssd and 8GB ram. It has replaced all my other mobile gadgets except my phone. I cant figure out why they havent taken off as its pretty killer.

I had one of these for a while too before picking up a Surface Pro 2 for cheap that could be RMAd for an SP3 , and the price/performance there is outstanding. If your use cases are like mine (Video, Web Browsing, etc, so it sounds like they are), Windows tablets are still a fine choice. Plus, with a Win tablet, you have the added benefit of it being able to serve as your "get things done" machine, too. With phones getting bigger, and 2-in-1s getting lighter and better, I can't find much of a use for a 7-10" tablet-only device now.
 

Commodus

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I found a refurbished Dell Venue 11 Pro for just over 400. FHD screen, 256GB ssd and 8GB ram. It has replaced all my other mobile gadgets except my phone. I cant figure out why they havent taken off as its pretty killer.

In my experience, most people just aren't looking for a laptop (or PC) replacement when they get a tablet. They're getting something to browse the web, play games and watch Netflix. The Venue 11 Pro is no doubt a fine tablet, but a lot of people aren't looking for more Windows... an iPad or Android tablet will typically do the job for less.
 

Ravynmagi

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When my Nexus 7 2013 started feeling too old and too small, I decided I wanted a 10 inch Android tablet. But after looking at the state of large Android tablets, I ended up getting an iPad Air 2.

Samsung. S2 is beautiful, thin, great screen. But Samsung keeps putting old processors into their tablet. The Exynos 5433 is sufficient. but I want more than sufficient.

Lenovo. Tab 3 Pro has nice specs, but I don't like the barrel kickstand. And why put a niche projector in a tablet? Seems like a waste of money for the majority of us that won't be using it. And the other Tab 3 is too low end in specs.

Sony. Slow to release tablets and even slower to update them. Z4 stuck on 5.0 still.

Asus. Only makes low end tablets now. Zenpad S 8 looks very nice, but only comes in the 8 inch size. Zenpad 10 (no S) is very low end.

Google. What I really wanted was a Nexus tablet. So I was profoundly disappointed after buying a Nexus 9 and feeling the flexing back side, the unresponsive buttons, and something else I can't remember now. The build quality was a let down.

The Pixel C came out after I gave up waiting. I probably would have tried this before buying the iPad Air. It's got great specs and build quality. My concerns are it's a bit on the heavy side, the non-rounded sides look a bit uncomfortable, and the battery life looks mediocre.
 

bassoprofundo

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In my experience, most people just aren't looking for a laptop (or PC) replacement when they get a tablet. They're getting something to browse the web, play games and watch Netflix. The Venue 11 Pro is no doubt a fine tablet, but a lot of people aren't looking for more Windows... an iPad or Android tablet will typically do the job for less.

I think you're right about what people are looking for, but I think too many people just don't know that a Win-based tablet will do exactly that and do it well (with "casual" gaming being the only possible shortfall vs the others) with the added benefit of doing real work if they need to. Again, it's all about what your primary use cases are.
 

Raduque

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I think you're right about what people are looking for, but I think too many people just don't know that a Win-based tablet will do exactly that and do it well (with "casual" gaming being the only possible shortfall vs the others) with the added benefit of doing real work if they need to. Again, it's all about what your primary use cases are.

Really it's more that they don't care. For most people, tablets are expendable toys, something to hand the kids when they won't shut up, or to read a news website on the toilet, or play candy crush on when they can't find their phone.
 

EliteRetard

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*snip*

Google. What I really wanted was a Nexus tablet. So I was profoundly disappointed after buying a Nexus 9 and feeling the flexing back side, the unresponsive buttons, and something else I can't remember now. The build quality was a let down.

*snip*

You're forgetting the horrid backlight issues:



Who would ever want to use a tablet that has a horrible blotchy glowing washed out display? That's what ruined it for me.
 

Commodus

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Really it's more that they don't care. For most people, tablets are expendable toys, something to hand the kids when they won't shut up, or to read a news website on the toilet, or play candy crush on when they can't find their phone.

Well, they're not necessarily toys, but I generally agree: they're not the vital machines that some want them to be.

I'm always reminded of how Microsoft originally advertised the Surface with "it's a PC" -- as if that was automatically good for customers. It is for some, but for a lot of people "PC" reminds them of complexity, headaches, work... the things they're frequently trying to get away from when they're using tablets.

In a sense, the market is smarter about these things now: Microsoft, Apple and even Google are focusing most of that like-a-PC energy on pro tablets that deserve the attention, not mid-tier models that are more likely to be used for couch browsing than anything else.
 

Dman8777

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Another vote for the first gen galaxy tab s. I have the 8.4 but I can't imagine the 10 inch is any different. Good battery life, excellent screen. I can't really speak to the performance because all I do is surf on it. For surfing, the performance is good.
 

Strk

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When my Nexus 7 2013 started feeling too old and too small, I decided I wanted a 10 inch Android tablet. But after looking at the state of large Android tablets, I ended up getting an iPad Air 2.

Samsung. S2 is beautiful, thin, great screen. But Samsung keeps putting old processors into their tablet. The Exynos 5433 is sufficient. but I want more than sufficient.

Lenovo. Tab 3 Pro has nice specs, but I don't like the barrel kickstand. And why put a niche projector in a tablet? Seems like a waste of money for the majority of us that won't be using it. And the other Tab 3 is too low end in specs.

Sony. Slow to release tablets and even slower to update them. Z4 stuck on 5.0 still.

Asus. Only makes low end tablets now. Zenpad S 8 looks very nice, but only comes in the 8 inch size. Zenpad 10 (no S) is very low end.

Google. What I really wanted was a Nexus tablet. So I was profoundly disappointed after buying a Nexus 9 and feeling the flexing back side, the unresponsive buttons, and something else I can't remember now. The build quality was a let down.

The Pixel C came out after I gave up waiting. I probably would have tried this before buying the iPad Air. It's got great specs and build quality. My concerns are it's a bit on the heavy side, the non-rounded sides look a bit uncomfortable, and the battery life looks mediocre.

I'd like to like the Pixel C, or any Android tablet (by Google), but they really need to do something about multitasking. Even on my Nexus 6 it annoys me at the lack of split window stuff. There is so much screen real estate wasted on these devices.
 
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