Is this believable story by Donna Brazile?

[ivwshane]

It's OK, neither was Bernie before he ran for President. It proves nothing.

Ditto

Its like you guys are fighting to see who can make the least sense. I declare a tie!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What you're suggesting is Bigfoot riding a unicorn. It's completely distractional.

Brazile was woefully uninformed when she took the chair of the DNC. Even though it was public information she didn't understand how the Clinton campaign had kept the DNC afloat. When she did figure it out, kinda, she decided that it had somehow been wrong for that to happen the way it did.

The truth is that the Clinton campaign didn't have much choice if they wanted to campaign under the banner of a DNC that had enough money to be effective. DWS obviously wasn't good at money management or fund raising, the latter being something Obama had neglected as well.

Do you have a particular reason why you think that people shouldn't have a more transparent system, more choices? The loss of partisan control perhaps? Maybe there are things being done that shouldn't?

Clinton lost. It's the process going forward I'm more interested in.

 

[brandonbull]

You'll get nothing but crickets...

I'm saying that this fits in very well with the other evidence of bribery, money laundering, and collusion between Clinton, the DNC, and the Russians. She takes over a financially distressed entity where then money large sums of money is then moved around from account to account obscuring the original source.

 

[dyna]

I'm saying that this fits in very well with the other evidence of bribery, money laundering, and collusion between Clinton, the DNC, and the Russians. She takes over a financially distressed entity where then money large sums of money is then moved around from account to account obscuring the original source.

Where there is smoke there is fire. As long as the Mueller which hunt continues, he might as well start throwing out indictments and investigating all areas of suspicion. This is suspicious and requires such attention. This will certainly uncover Russians, dossiers and probably more lobbyist guilty of tax evasion. The network of clandestine political operation will span into a web of politicians that will reach far and wide. Our political heroes will fall and be burned at the stake. Or they will just get away with it because they are slimy and untouchable.

 

[ivwshane]

I'm saying that this fits in very well with the other evidence of bribery, money laundering, and collusion between Clinton, the DNC, and the Russians. She takes over a financially distressed entity where then money large sums of money is then moved around from account to account obscuring the original source.

You, of course, are making bullshit claims.

 

[Jhhnn]

I'm saying that this fits in very well with the other evidence of bribery, money laundering, and collusion between Clinton, the DNC, and the Russians. She takes over a financially distressed entity where then money large sums of money is then moved around from account to account obscuring the original source.

Which has nothing to do with what Brazile offered, does it? Of course not. You're just here to repeat the Faux News talking points du jour.

 

[Jaskalas]

Disaster of the ACA? The ACA was not only effective in a policy sense, it is now popular by a margin of 11 points:

https://www.kff.org/interactive/kai...esponse=Favorable--Unfavorable&aRange=twoYear

Did you "fix" healthcare, did you make it "affordable"? Helping a few people at the expense of the many was political suicide. Or did you not notice the continuing, nation wide, election disasters since Republicans took back the House in 2010? The American people hated the Iraq war and were more than willing to listen to Barrack Obama. Something changed their minds in 2010. Take a guess what that was.

 

[ivwshane]

Did you "fix" healthcare, did you make it "affordable"? Helping a few people at the expense of the many was political suicide. Or did you not notice the continuing, nation wide, election disasters since Republicans took back the House in 2010? The American people hated the Iraq war and were more than willing to listen to Barrack Obama. Something changed their minds in 2010. Take a guess what that was.

Gerrymandering and Russian and right wing propaganda?

 

[fskimospy]

Did you "fix" healthcare, did you make it "affordable"? Helping a few people at the expense of the many was political suicide. Or did you not notice the continuing, nation wide, election disasters since Republicans took back the House in 2010? The American people hated the Iraq war and were more than willing to listen to Barrack Obama. Something changed their minds in 2010. Take a guess what that was.

Do you think the fact that the bill’s namesake won re-election relatively easily in 2012 night poke a hole in this theory?

Also the ACA did not help a few people at the expense of the many. And again, if it’s such electoral suicide then why do people approve of it by double digit margins now?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Its like you guys are fighting to see who can make the least sense. I declare a tie!

You spend endless hours of time and effort defending the Democratic Party, not liberalism or left leaning policies, but the actual Democratic Party and in this particular thread, the DNC and Hillary Clinton. Why would any reasonable person believe you? Just because you don't have the integrity to actually be a part of the party that you routinely vote for doesn't mean squat.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Gerrymandering and Russian and right wing propaganda?

This got a real laugh out of me.

 

[ivwshane]

You spend endless hours of time and effort defending the Democratic Party, not liberalism or left leaning policies, but the actual Democratic Party and in this particular thread, the DNC and Hillary Clinton. Why would any reasonable person believe you? Just because you don't have the integrity to actually be a part of the party that you routinely vote for doesn't mean squat.

I've never defended the DNC. I think they are about as incompetent as one could get. I've also argued for policies regardless of where they come from so long as they are based on facts. I'm not a liberal or a progressive or any other label you wish to use because you've got nothing else to argue against.

Its not my fault you two are idiots and believe stupid shit.

 

[ivwshane]

This got a real laugh out of me.

I bet! You typically laugh at facts so I'm not surprised.

 

[brandonbull]

You, of course, are making bullshit claims.

Money was deposited and then it was almost immediately withdrawn.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Where there is smoke there is fire. As long as the Mueller which hunt continues, he might as well start throwing out indictments and investigating all areas of suspicion. This is suspicious and requires such attention. This will certainly uncover Russians, dossiers and probably more lobbyist guilty of tax evasion. The network of clandestine political operation will span into a web of politicians that will reach far and wide. Our political heroes will fall and be burned at the stake. Or they will just get away with it because they are slimy and untouchable.

which hunt? the hunt for treason? the hunt for facts and making those responsible accountable? which hunt?

 

[Jhhnn]

.One of our greatest legal minds has weighed in on it-

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/926249604936556545

 

[brycejones]

Money was deposited and then it was almost immediately withdrawn.

Derp

 

[Jaskalas]

Do you think the fact that the bill’s namesake won re-election relatively easily in 2012 night poke a hole in this theory?

A single contest VS a whole nation over 6 years and 4 elections. No, I do not believe Obama's youthful charisma undermines the prevailing winds. I'm explaining what I believe set those losses in motion, and based on people's increasing costs year after year the failures of the ACA are only getting worse. We all know further action is required on healthcare.

Makes it difficult to move forward if one does not own up to the current state of things. I say we can inspire people by pushing for meaningful changes to improve their lives. Throwing a few billion at the ACA simply doesn't cut it. Wall Street would complain loudly but ultimately be pleased to avoid single payer. It helps the fat cats and hurts our people through neglect. We can do better, we have to push for it, and our people have to see us making that fight for them. For us to reach out and get them to hope for change again.

My point was we can no longer settle for middling policy to help just a few. No more settling for bronze, it's time to go for the gold instead.

 

[fskimospy]

A single contest VS a whole nation over 6 years and 4 elections. No, I do not believe Obama's youthful charisma undermines the prevailing winds. I'm explaining what I believe set those losses in motion, and based on people's increasing costs year after year the failures of the ACA are only getting worse. We all know further action is required on healthcare.

Health care inflation has been lower post ACA than it was pre-ACA. I sincerely don’t understand how people continue to believe this nonsense.

Makes it difficult to move forward if one does not own up to the current state of things. I say we can inspire people by pushing for meaningful changes to improve their lives. Throwing a few billion at the ACA simply doesn't cut it. Wall Street would complain loudly but ultimately be pleased to avoid single payer. It helps the fat cats and hurts our people through neglect. We can do better, we have to push for it, and our people have to see us making that fight for them. For us to reach out and get them to hope for change again.

My point was we can no longer settle for middling policy to help just a few. No more settling for bronze, it's time to go for the gold instead.

The ACA provided meaningful change and improvement to literally tens of millions of people, of which I am one. I can say with no exaggeration that there has never been a more positive and more impactful piece of federal legislation passed in my lifetime, at least when it comes to my personal welfare.

It is a truly impressive feat of propaganda that this has been lost on people and they somehow think it was a failure.

 

[Starbuck1975]

haha that is pretty funny
made a minor suggested edit

Great minds think a like. That is how I originally wrote it, but I had second thoughts after assuming the usual suspects would deflect the topic by posting a meme or animated gif about a turkey or something equally asinine.

I guess inevitability needed a boost.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...off-without-clinton-and-obama/article/2639620

"In a new book, Donna Brazile, former interim chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, reveals there was not just informal collusion, but a formal cash-for-power agreement that made the DNC a wholly-owned subsidiary of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. "

"Almost no one knew about the debt, not even senior officers of the party, Brazile included. When she found out, she screamed, “I am an officer of the party and they’ve been telling us everything is fine and they were raising money with no problems.” The whole thing was a big lie, which makes it entirely predictable that it was presided over by Clinton, who lies even when she says "but" and "and," as the saying goes."

 

[Jhhnn]

A single contest VS a whole nation over 6 years and 4 elections. No, I do not believe Obama's youthful charisma undermines the prevailing winds. I'm explaining what I believe set those losses in motion, and based on people's increasing costs year after year the failures of the ACA are only getting worse. We all know further action is required on healthcare.

Makes it difficult to move forward if one does not own up to the current state of things. I say we can inspire people by pushing for meaningful changes to improve their lives. Throwing a few billion at the ACA simply doesn't cut it. Wall Street would complain loudly but ultimately be pleased to avoid single payer. It helps the fat cats and hurts our people through neglect. We can do better, we have to push for it, and our people have to see us making that fight for them. For us to reach out and get them to hope for change again.

My point was we can no longer settle for middling policy to help just a few. No more settling for bronze, it's time to go for the gold instead.

We all know further action is desirable. OTOH, we all know that any action taken by the current congress & the Trump admin won't be in the right direction at all. Going on about the perceived deficiencies of the ACA just gives them an excuse to act in a manner contrary to the interests of the people. We'll be lucky to hold our ground until such time as we can create an honest opportunity to do better.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

This got a real laugh out of me.

considering you're a moron, I'm guessing you find a lot of things funny that people with rational and reasonable thought do not.

 

[Jhhnn]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...off-without-clinton-and-obama/article/2639620

"In a new book, Donna Brazile, former interim chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, reveals there was not just informal collusion, but a formal cash-for-power agreement that made the DNC a wholly-owned subsidiary of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. "

"Almost no one knew about the debt, not even senior officers of the party, Brazile included. When she found out, she screamed, “I am an officer of the party and they’ve been telling us everything is fine and they were raising money with no problems.” The whole thing was a big lie, which makes it entirely predictable that it was presided over by Clinton, who lies even when she says "but" and "and," as the saying goes."

Nice hatchet job from one of the usual mouthpieces, one of the rags sent out by Phil Anschutz. I particularly like putting what Mook supposedly said to Brazile in quotes... as if they actually heard it themselves.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Time to call in the special prosecutors.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017...igging-nomination-may-have-been-criminal.html

"The stunning revelation from former Democratic National Committee interim chairperson Donna Brazile that Clinton secretly rigged the primary process by commandeering the DNC should come as no surprise to anyone. Clinton is nothing, if not unethical and corrupt. She always has been. This is precisely why pre-election polls consistently showed that a majority of Americans found her dishonest and untrustworthy.

The critical question now is whether she committed crimes in her theft of the nomination."

"
Clinton Crimes?

The Federal Election Commission must immediately launch an investigation. So, too, must the Department of Justice and the FBI. It appears that Clinton may well have violated several laws which could constitute serious crimes.

First, federal law sets strict limits on campaign contributions. Financial records must now be subpoenaed to determine whether these laws were broken. Given Clinton’s past record of shady transactions such as the Whitewater land deal and her sale of cattle futures, there is a strong chance that a document trail will lead investigators to multiple violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act.

Second, if Brazile’s account of Clinton’s artifice is true, it is likely that campaign finance reporting laws were broken under the same Act. Hiding campaign money through false or misleading campaign reports is illegal. In egregious cases it is a crime, not just a civil penalty.

Finally, the funneling of campaign funds from one source to another smacks of money laundering. Any transaction that seeks to conceal or disguise proceeds of illegal activity constitutes money laundering. So, if it can be shown that Clinton violated campaign contribution limits or reporting requirements, then the channeling of the proceeds from one source to another would be the “laundering” of it."

"
Second Special Counsel

Clinton and her campaign are already suspected of playing a pivotal role in violating federal law by paying a substantial amount of money to a British spy and Russian government sources in order to obtain the infamous and discredited Trump “dossier”. Talking to a Russian in a campaign is not a crime, but paying money to one as part of a political campaign is a crime.

There is also evidence Clinton used her public office to confer a benefit to the Russian government in exchange for millions of dollars in donations to her foundation and cash to her husband. If the Clintons were enriched at the very time Hillary presided over a governing body which unanimously approved the sale of one-fifth of America’s uranium supply to Russia, it would amount to a violation of seven criminal statutes, including racketeering. "


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