Is this believable story by Donna Brazile?

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Time to call in the special prosecutors.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017...igging-nomination-may-have-been-criminal.html

"The stunning revelation from former Democratic National Committee interim chairperson Donna Brazile that Clinton secretly rigged the primary process by commandeering the DNC should come as no surprise to anyone. Clinton is nothing, if not unethical and corrupt. She always has been. This is precisely why pre-election polls consistently showed that a majority of Americans found her dishonest and untrustworthy.

The critical question now is whether she committed crimes in her theft of the nomination."

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Clinton Crimes?

The Federal Election Commission must immediately launch an investigation. So, too, must the Department of Justice and the FBI. It appears that Clinton may well have violated several laws which could constitute serious crimes.

First, federal law sets strict limits on campaign contributions. Financial records must now be subpoenaed to determine whether these laws were broken. Given Clinton’s past record of shady transactions such as the Whitewater land deal and her sale of cattle futures, there is a strong chance that a document trail will lead investigators to multiple violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act.

Second, if Brazile’s account of Clinton’s artifice is true, it is likely that campaign finance reporting laws were broken under the same Act. Hiding campaign money through false or misleading campaign reports is illegal. In egregious cases it is a crime, not just a civil penalty.

Finally, the funneling of campaign funds from one source to another smacks of money laundering. Any transaction that seeks to conceal or disguise proceeds of illegal activity constitutes money laundering. So, if it can be shown that Clinton violated campaign contribution limits or reporting requirements, then the channeling of the proceeds from one source to another would be the “laundering” of it."

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Second Special Counsel

Clinton and her campaign are already suspected of playing a pivotal role in violating federal law by paying a substantial amount of money to a British spy and Russian government sources in order to obtain the infamous and discredited Trump “dossier”. Talking to a Russian in a campaign is not a crime, but paying money to one as part of a political campaign is a crime.

There is also evidence Clinton used her public office to confer a benefit to the Russian government in exchange for millions of dollars in donations to her foundation and cash to her husband. If the Clintons were enriched at the very time Hillary presided over a governing body which unanimously approved the sale of one-fifth of America’s uranium supply to Russia, it would amount to a violation of seven criminal statutes, including racketeering. "


The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Good please do, you control the WH, Senate, House, Supreme Court, bunch of Federal Prosecutors and a bunch of Governors.
All I hear is talk from you guys. I'm waiting for action. Go for it.
 

Hugo Drax

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So, the Clinton disaster continues to smolder. She will go down as the worst candidate to run for president.
 
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sportage

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Most people would say DONNA WHO?
This is one of those stories that get maybe .00001 % interest from the public.
However..... at least the democrats are trying to put their house in order after their horrific loss.
Where as republicans are doing nothing to put their house in order.
They're house is burning like an out of control California forest fire, and the republican reaction?, "oh, just a little smoke. Nothing to worry about".

This Russia thing is starting to catch up to this administration.
Trump actually looks a little worried.
In the meantime, democrats must finally address their horrific loss and put their house back in order. And to now take the time to realize and accept that just maybe Hilary wasn't the best thing since sliced bread after all.
If democrats can look themselves in the mirror and finally admit Hilary should have never been their candidate, but they should have went with Bernie Sanders or even Joe Biden, then maybe there is hope.
If democrats can accept that, and at the same time look on as the Trump administration comes tumbling down, then democrats will be in a very good place to win come 2020.

Trump is running scared. He may not show it but nor would most mass murders just handcuffed by the cops. David Berkowitz smiled while the cops led him away....
Trump now has that same sickly grin on his face.
Not quite so arrogant as you thought you were, hey Donald?

The good thing for democrats and the very bad thing for republicans would be for democrats to now focus and take the time to put their house in order during this very same time as the republican house comes tumbling down.
Otherwise, even while that republican house self destructs, should democrats themselves remain stuck in denial over 2016 then what happens to that republican house will not matter.
Democrats can only gain if they go through a little soul searching. Frankly, a lot of soul searching.
Prepare themselves for the eventuality of that Trump administration meltdown.
All it would take is for Trump to fail at tax reform, and more so than healthcare Trump's tax reform appears more so doomed.
THAT, along with Russia would just about do it for Donald Trump Inc.
Add in there a few more middle of the night Trump administration departures and there you are.
A mad man gone entirely mad.
Donald Trump has very thin skin. That was obvious from the very start.
Keep chipping away at the thinned skin and Trump will eventually bleed to death.

And a far as Bernie Sanders was concerned, he too would have probably lost if it had been Sanders/Trump.
Republicans had not even begun to dismantle Bernie Sanders by tossing accusations like COMMIE and SOCIALIST.
All it would have taken for that republican death machine to unload its Hilary ammo and reload with Sanders ammo is a 24 turnaround, then look out Bernie!
Sanders would have been reduced to dust.
So its amusing that now republicans act as if they feel "sorry" for how Hilary and the DNC unjustly treated Bernie Sanders.

Democrats, put your house in order.
Republicans, look on as you house comes tumbling down.
And Donna brazil? You go girl....
 
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fskimospy

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Time to call in the special prosecutors.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017...igging-nomination-may-have-been-criminal.html

"The stunning revelation from former Democratic National Committee interim chairperson Donna Brazile that Clinton secretly rigged the primary process by commandeering the DNC should come as no surprise to anyone. Clinton is nothing, if not unethical and corrupt. She always has been. This is precisely why pre-election polls consistently showed that a majority of Americans found her dishonest and untrustworthy.

The critical question now is whether she committed crimes in her theft of the nomination."

"
Clinton Crimes?

The Federal Election Commission must immediately launch an investigation. So, too, must the Department of Justice and the FBI. It appears that Clinton may well have violated several laws which could constitute serious crimes.

First, federal law sets strict limits on campaign contributions. Financial records must now be subpoenaed to determine whether these laws were broken. Given Clinton’s past record of shady transactions such as the Whitewater land deal and her sale of cattle futures, there is a strong chance that a document trail will lead investigators to multiple violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act.

Second, if Brazile’s account of Clinton’s artifice is true, it is likely that campaign finance reporting laws were broken under the same Act. Hiding campaign money through false or misleading campaign reports is illegal. In egregious cases it is a crime, not just a civil penalty.

Finally, the funneling of campaign funds from one source to another smacks of money laundering. Any transaction that seeks to conceal or disguise proceeds of illegal activity constitutes money laundering. So, if it can be shown that Clinton violated campaign contribution limits or reporting requirements, then the channeling of the proceeds from one source to another would be the “laundering” of it."

"
Second Special Counsel

Clinton and her campaign are already suspected of playing a pivotal role in violating federal law by paying a substantial amount of money to a British spy and Russian government sources in order to obtain the infamous and discredited Trump “dossier”. Talking to a Russian in a campaign is not a crime, but paying money to one as part of a political campaign is a crime.

There is also evidence Clinton used her public office to confer a benefit to the Russian government in exchange for millions of dollars in donations to her foundation and cash to her husband. If the Clintons were enriched at the very time Hillary presided over a governing body which unanimously approved the sale of one-fifth of America’s uranium supply to Russia, it would amount to a violation of seven criminal statutes, including racketeering. "


The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Lol. You guys are in total panic mode about Mueller and it shows. You need to tone it down some because right now all this flailing just makes you look desperate.

By the way, learned something new the other day about the charges on Manafort. It looks like Mueller could have charged him with additional crimes that tie his criminal behavior more closely to Trump but declined to do so so that NYS can charge him, making it it impossible for Trump to pardon him. Then we really get to start peeling the onion, and then it’s on to Trump’s finances.

Now that I think about it I totally understand why you are panicking.
 
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If it was up to me, Hillary would have been wearing her stylish new orange pantsuit months ago.

So when should I expect her to be charged otherwise it's just more BS you are peddling

You set the line, either
Hillary is guilty but your leadership is incapable of getting her charged

Or

It's just a bullshit claim that no prosecutor will take up.

It's one or the other.
 
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fskimospy

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So you'd have her imprison on the basis of political beliefs since there isn't a god damn shred of evidence of wrongdoings?

That says a lot about you, fascist.

I always find it interesting that the people who claim to want limited government are so willing to abuse government power.

I guess it’s a classic case of projection. They think everyone else is as unprincipled as they are.
 

Jhhnn

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Gotta love it. Here's the snarking from Townhall back in2015-

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortn...ts-800000-operating-loss-for-october-n2085060

If the DNC is going to try to keep pace this election season, it better hope it can find someone who knows how to balance a checkbook.

They found the Clinton campaign, & it was no secret at the time-

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...-Times-wrote-about-Hillary-s-DNC-intervention

More spin from back then-

https://legalinsurrection.com/2015/11/democrats-in-debt-while-republicans-raise-millions/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...lds-up-20-million-war-chest.html?intcmp=hpbt2

It was clearly a mistake for the DNC to appoint Brazile as interim chief when DWC resigned. They probably didn't realize that she was quite so clueless.

And where was Bernie when it came to propping up the DNC? Heh. He just wanted to ride that horse, not feed it even when they asked.
 

fskimospy

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-clinton-with-biden-after-fainted-report.html

Former DNC leader Donna Brazile says she considered replacing 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton with then-Vice President Joe Biden after Clinton fainted in the closing weeks of the White House race, according to full review of Brazile’s upcoming book published Saturday.

This is of course more bullshit as Brazile lacked the power to do that. The nominee has to agree to be replaced and then a committee of people in the DNC vote on it.

Then again so long as it involves Hillary Clinton people will believe basically anything.
 

UglyCasanova

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There’s no way it would happen I agree with that. It would rightfully cause insurrection from Democrats.
 

fskimospy

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There’s no way it would happen I agree with that. It would rightfully cause insurrection from Democrats.

No I mean she literally lacked the power to do that. Even if she had wanted to she had no way to do it. It’s complete bullshit.
 
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This is of course more bullshit as Brazile lacked the power to do that. The nominee has to agree to be replaced and then a committee of people in the DNC vote on it.

Then again so long as it involves Hillary Clinton people will believe basically anything.

Not to mention Joe wasn't running at that point.
I'll agree the DNC was much more of a mess than I would have expected.
I do have to say Brazile is a traitor to the Party, releasing this book immediately before some important Govornor races and the obvious attempt to sell the book no matter what the cost.
 

brycejones

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So, the Clinton disaster continues to smolder. She will go down as the worst candidate to run for president.

Lol let’s see why.....

Someone hawking a book and a President desperate to duhvert from the shit show and dumpster fire that is his administration.

Without those two factors this wouldn’t even be a story.
 
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Jhhnn

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The Democrats allowed Debbie Wasserman to shaft Bernie and stick us with Hillary. No one staged a mutiny then.

Hillary hate really clouds your judgement. You really should see somebody about that. You're not making any sense. If the party cheated Bernie, why did he do better in state caucuses, run by the party, than he did in primaries run by Secretaries of State?

Bernie got his shot & lost by 3.7M votes with a 12 point spread. How the Hell does anybody "fix" something like that across 50 states? It's ridiculous & the result of very successful concern trolling from the Russians & the right wing in general.

Don't be a chump, OK?
 

shortylickens

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Hillary hate really clouds your judgement. You really should see somebody about that. You're not making any sense. If the party cheated Bernie, why did he do better in state caucuses, run by the party, than he did in primaries run by Secretaries of State?

Bernie got his shot & lost by 3.7M votes with a 12 point spread. How the Hell does anybody "fix" something like that across 50 states? It's ridiculous & the result of very successful concern trolling from the Russians & the right wing in general.

Don't be a chump, OK?

You used so many logical fallacies I'm not going to respond to any of this.
Good night.
 

woolfe9998

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By the way, learned something new the other day about the charges on Manafort. It looks like Mueller could have charged him with additional crimes that tie his criminal behavior more closely to Trump but declined to do so so that NYS can charge him, making it it impossible for Trump to pardon him. Then we really get to start peeling the onion, and then it’s on to Trump’s finances.

You have a source on that? All I've read so far as that there remains a NYS investigation which may result in charges if Trump decides to pardon Manafort. I haven't seen anything about Mueller holding back charges.
 
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