Is this child abuse?

jimmyj68

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I saw a segment on one of the news magazines this evening about a set of 12 - or - 13 year old twin girls who are a singing and recording sensation in the world of white supremacists. They perform at conventions/gatherings etc. singing songs defamatory to African Americans, Jews, etc. and in praise of Hitler and his cronies.

Their mother is beaming proud of what she has taught them about the necessity to save the pure white/aryan people from ?????? everybody else??????

To learn and spew such hatred is a consuming cancer that will enevitably destroy them. I think mothers, parents, that so pollute thier children's minds and psyche are guilty of child abuse.
 

Ronstang

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Whether you like it or not they have the same rights as YOU do to believe what they want......if the break the law that is where things change.
 

Vic

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Mermaidman

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I saw that show too and had the same thought. Unfortunately, it's probably not illegal to teach your children to worship Hitler.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Mermaidman
I saw that show too and had the same thought. Unfortunately, it's probably not illegal to teach your children to worship Hitler.

Why "unfortunately"? Don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of teaching children to worship Hitler... but if we give goverrnment that kind of power, the next thing it's illegal to teach your children anything that but what the present majority decrees. How would you like that?
 

Mermaidman

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
I saw that show too and had the same thought. Unfortunately, it's probably not illegal to teach your children to worship Hitler.

Why "unfortunately"? Don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of teaching children to worship Hitler... but if we give goverrnment that kind of power, the next thing it's illegal to teach your children anything that but what the present majority decrees. How would you like that?
Because psychological harm can be as bad as physical? If it's illegal to physically harm children, why should it not be illegal to screw up a child's head (figuratively). I understand where you're coming from though--where does one draw the line? Who sets the standards?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
I saw that show too and had the same thought. Unfortunately, it's probably not illegal to teach your children to worship Hitler.

Why "unfortunately"? Don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of teaching children to worship Hitler... but if we give goverrnment that kind of power, the next thing it's illegal to teach your children anything that but what the present majority decrees. How would you like that?
Because psychological harm can be as bad as physical? If it's illegal to physically harm children, why should it not be illegal to screw up a child's head (figuratively). I understand where you're coming from though--where does one draw the line? Who sets the standards?
And when it becomes "psychological harm" to teach your children evolution? Or (contrary) to teach them about God and your family's religious faith? Where does one draw the line? Who sets the standards? The parents. Tend to your own garden.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
I saw that show too and had the same thought. Unfortunately, it's probably not illegal to teach your children to worship Hitler.

Why "unfortunately"? Don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of teaching children to worship Hitler... but if we give goverrnment that kind of power, the next thing it's illegal to teach your children anything that but what the present majority decrees. How would you like that?
Because psychological harm can be as bad as physical? If it's illegal to physically harm children, why should it not be illegal to screw up a child's head (figuratively). I understand where you're coming from though--where does one draw the line? Who sets the standards?
And when it becomes "psychological harm" to teach your children evolution? Or (contrary) to teach them about God and your family's religious faith? Where does one draw the line? Who sets the standards? The parents. Tend to your own garden.

I agree. (With particular emphasis on the bolded part.)
 

necine

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No, it's not illegal. The woman is allowed to teach her kids to exalt anyone she wishes. The child will have a choice when they mature, after being sufficently indoctrinated.
 

2cpuminimum

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From a legal perspective, children are the property of their parents in most states. Child abuse is virtually never investigated unless someone's death was obviously murder with no attempt to disguise it as an accident, or the abuser is not the parent/guardian.

That said, yes psychological harm is abuse, but it's nigh impossible to prove in court, and never prosecuted if the perpetrator is a parent.
 

VertigoLabs

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your right we need the THOUGHT POLICE big brother is watching and thinking and feeling a certian way can be illegal while were at it we can change the name from
Unites States of America to China or Iraq

is what that mother doing Immoral YEA too bad the government cant dictate morality ? is this what you really want ?

or i can enjoy my freedom and when i meet this idiot mother and her racist child i will use MY freedom to tell them what I think of them
 
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