Is this even right? (3770k for 229.99 @ Microcenter)

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Idontcare

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That would be accurate... if America didn't spend as much as Europe per capita on social programs, especially healthcare. Emergency medicine costs far more than preventative, and things via your medical system are very overpriced. America also has a higher percentage of state vs private employment, if anything. And defence spending per capita is a lot higher, which is pure tax money expenditure.

I wish a real comparison could be made between a minimalist government and Europe, but the US is not it.

We don't pay for those things those when we buy our CPUs though, which is where a healthy cut of the price-premium goes that Europeans pay when they buy their CPUs.

Heck, we don't even pay for those things when we pay our taxes Seen our annual deficit lately?
 

nipplefish

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Are you guys sure they pricematch Newegg? I used to work there and they were pretty strict about not pricematching online stores, only local stores. That was a few years ago though, so their policy may have changed.
 

Smartazz

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If they price match Newegg, I may have to buy my motherboard and CPU together there.
 

piasabird

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I wonder if most stores are getting a markup?

I wonder how much an online processor will cost in new york city?

After the Internet Tax kicks in.
 
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Torn Mind

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Man I wish I was south of the border for this! Any of you guys there wanna buy me one and ship it to Canada? I'd pay 40-50 bucks extra!

Shipping across the border has enough surcharges that it is most likely not profitable for a guy like me to send it to Canada. (I live near a Micro Center).
 

Idontcare

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When does the tax kick in?

There is no "internet tax" to kick in...the sales tax already exists on a per-state basis but people who choose to not pay their taxes are the tax dodgers, simple as that.

The supposed "internet tax" bill is really just a bill that enables states to enforce etailers to collect the sales tax that is rightly owed the state on online purchases made by the state's resident, the same as happens when that resident purchases goods at a brick and mortar retailer.

In other words, it simply harmonizes existing state sales tax collection across retailers and etailers alike as a means to stifle the existing unlawful tax dodging practices of many online shoppers.

If your state has a sales tax and you aren't reporting and paying the required sales tax on goods/services/etc purchased online then you are very likely breaking the law in your state and are a "tax dodger". You may not have realized that, but there is a reason state governments realized long ago they had to force retailers to collect sales tax at the point of sale because the residents will, by and large, refuse to pay the sales tax if they leave it up to voluntary reporting methods (the same methods that exist now for sales taxes on online purchases).
 

Smartazz

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There is no "internet tax" to kick in...the sales tax already exists on a per-state basis but people who choose to not pay their taxes are the tax dodgers, simple as that.

The supposed "internet tax" bill is really just a bill that enables states to enforce etailers to collect the sales tax that is rightly owed the state on online purchases made by the state's resident, the same as happens when that resident purchases goods at a brick and mortar retailer.

In other words, it simply harmonizes existing state sales tax collection across retailers and etailers alike as a means to stifle the existing unlawful tax dodging practices of many online shoppers.

If your state has a sales tax and you aren't reporting and paying the required sales tax on goods/services/etc purchased online then you are very likely breaking the law in your state and are a "tax dodger". You may not have realized that, but there is a reason state governments realized long ago they had to force retailers to collect sales tax at the point of sale because the residents will, by and large, refuse to pay the sales tax if they leave it up to voluntary reporting methods (the same methods that exist now for sales taxes on online purchases).

Even Fox is reported misinformation. They called it an Internet sales tax. I'm sure a bunch of other mainstream news stations did the same.
 

Idontcare

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Even Fox is reported misinformation. They called it an Internet sales tax. I'm sure a bunch of other mainstream news stations did the same.

Mainstream media never lets a simple thing like "facts" get in the way of making up a good story.

Top 7 Myths About Sales Taxes

Myth # 2: Internet purchases are not subject to sales tax

False. Many times you won’t be charged sales taxes when you purchase items online, but this doesn’t mean that you don’t owe tax on the purchase. Most online retailers only charge sales tax in certain states because of a concept called Nexus. This federal precedent only requires retailers to collect sales taxes in states where they have a physical presence.

However, consumers are technically supposed to report these purchases on their state income tax return and pay the sales taxes at that time. There are several pending court cases and even a proposed federal regulation aimed at changing these Nexus laws, so tax-free online sales may soon be a thing of the past.

The argument has never been "are internet purchases taxable?" - the answer there has always been "yes they are" - but rather the argument has been "is the etailer responsible for collecting sales tax at the time of purchase, or is the purchaser responsible for reporting and paying the sales tax to the proper taxing authorities?".

Because the current system is basically creating a generation of tax cheats who feel entitled to dodging the payment of sales taxes on online purchases; there is growing support to force etailers to collect the taxes up front as it is far easier to audit the etailers for accounting compliance versus auditing every citizen for voluntary remittance of their sales tax.
 

kg4icg

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Have been going to Micrometer for years here in Northern Virginia. Place has been around even before CompUSA faltered. Picked my I7-3770k up in Feb for 229. Had to get Gigabyte Z77X-UP5 from Newegg . Also picked up Corsair Vengeance 16gb kit for $75. Checkout the SSD prices also.
 

lagokc

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The supposed "internet tax" bill is really just a bill that enables states to enforce etailers to collect the sales tax that is rightly owed the state on online purchases made by the state's resident, the same as happens when that resident purchases goods at a brick and mortar retailer.

If that was the case then shouldn't the sales tax be based on where the retailer is located, not the customer? Residents of Illinois don't have to pay IL sales tax when they're shopping in Indiana.
 

Idontcare

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If that was the case then shouldn't the sales tax be based on where the retailer is located, not the customer? Residents of Illinois don't have to pay IL sales tax when they're shopping in Indiana.

Actually they do, they (the resident, not the Indiana business) are responsible for reporting the sales tax themselves to Illinois.

The business in Indiana is not required to collect sales tax from the Illinois resident and remit it to the Illinois government, but the Illinois resident is still responsible for paying sales taxes to their taxing authorities.

When I worked retail, ages ago, in WA state we use to get OR state residents who would claim to not have to pay the WA state sales tax on their purchases in WA state. Which was true, so we'd take down their driver's license and not charge them WA sales tax.

But they were still responsible for paying OR sales tax on the goods purchased in WA state. It is actually a big deal there because tax cheats try and dodge sales taxes on big ticket items like kitchen appliances, furniture, cars and trucks, etc.

So OR state has taken to asking WA businesses to voluntarily report sales involving OR residents so that the OR state government can follow-up and compel the tax cheats to pay their sales taxes.
 
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