Is This Foriegn Policy?

TruculentTucan

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<<< WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Retired Army Gen. Barry McCaffrey, who was drug czar during President Clinton's second term, said in an online exchange last month that those against the United States in its war on terrorism would "be killed suddenly, in significant numbers and without warning."

McCaffrey, who commanded the 24th Mechanized Infantry Division in the Persian Gulf War, offered his blunt assessment on the mission and the strategy confronting the United States and its allies in an e-mail exchange with a cadet at West Point, where McCaffrey teaches.
The exchange took place September 19 -- a little more than a week after the deadliest terror attacks on U.S. soil. McCaffrey and others have since distributed the e-mail widely to friends and associates in the national security community.
McCaffrey told CNN he is not displeased the exchange became public, because he is eager to articulate the likely multi-faceted course of action.

McCaffrey identified multiple objectives -- to increase domestic security, build a strong coalition and finally "take the gloves off and use integrated military power to find, fix and destroy" terrorist organizations.

He told the cadet, "We are going to disrupt these people through preemptive attack ... we will deceive them, we will run psyops on them, at selected points and times they will be killed suddenly, in significant numbers, and without warning."
"Tomahawk missiles, 2000 pound laser guided weapons dropped from B2's or F22's at very high altitude, remote control, booby traps, blackmail and at places, small groups of soldiers or SEALs will appear in total darkness, blow down the doors and kill them at close range with automatic weapons and hand grenades," the e-mail message read.

McCaffrey went on to say: "We will find their money and freeze it. We will arrest their front agents. We will operate against their recruiting and transportation functions. We will locate their training areas and surveil or mine them. We will isolate them from their families.

"We will try to dominate their communication function and alternately listen, jam or spoof it. We will make their couriers disappear. If we can find out how they eat, or play or receive rewards, or where they sleep -- we will go there and kill them by surprise."
McCaffrey said the military component would be "a supporting but lesser aspect of a strategy that will be based fundamentally on diplomatic and economic leverage to compel cooperation with international law."

The retired general said there would need to be substantial and costly efforts to reduce the "environmental factors" that feed "extremist madness."

That would include "dramatically increased" international aid to address the poverty of Palestinians, Afghans, Sudanese and others, he said.

A U.S. military official who was shown McCaffrey's comments said they were the "insights of a very smart guy."
Another official said they do not contain any national secrets, but they do accurately reflect the strategy the United States has adopted.
In the words of this official: "It's the plan." >>>




Is this foriegn policy? This kinda stuff really scares me personally. I don't know how fellow ATers feel about it....
BTW this all from CNN.com
 

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What should scare you is if we don't adopt this plan of attack.

Like it or not, we are at war.

I heard on MSNBC today that a high ranking intelligence official reported to a Senate comittee today, that the likelihood of another terrorist attack on American soil is 100%. Get this...of the 19 terrorists who struck on 9/11/01, only 2 were known to intelligence as suspected terrorists. That means there are alot of them still here waiting to spring their evil.

If we don't do as General McCaffrey suggests, we are going to get pounded. How many more 9/11/01's will it take before people get it in their heads that we are all targets for assasination. This is truly a life and death situation. The time for salon discussions on "why can't we all just get along" is gone.

Serious times call for serious action.
 

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<< Is This Foriegn Policy? >>

No, its our new policy on terrorism. No big deal, its modeled after Israeli's reaction to the Munich Massacre. Though, we're going to engage a few addition fronts the Mossad did not. There's no question that we're adopting the Mossad's assassination policy, and we don't need no stinking Executive Order to do it. War's a bitch, for our enemy. We're dusting-off some Cold War era counter-espionage methods. As a guest on Larry King Live put it: pretty soon, some guy will have an 'accident' in Paris, a few days later another guy will have an 'accident' in the Philipines, another guy will 'fall' in front of a train in Belgium...until these terrorist cells are disrupted, paralyzed, stamped-out and killed.
 

TruculentTucan

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What I mean by I am scared of it is that he sounds so zealous of rushing around and killing people. Honestly, I am all for finding the people responsible by whatever means necessary, even war. However, the zeal with which he speaks of killing many of them quickly does kind of scare me.

I completely understand why it must be done, however. I will support the US in its decisions for holding people accountable, however this whole thing came as such a shock that someone would actually go out and say this.

Thanks for the responses.
 

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No it's not foreign policy but it's a realistic & damned good military strategy for success. We won't be around to debate diplomacy at all if we aren't here anymore & the only way we're going to be around is to go at this with the gloves off & play for keeps.
 

tcsenter

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<< What I mean by I am scared of it is that he sounds so zealous of rushing around and killing people. Honestly, I am all for finding the people responsible by whatever means necessary, even war. However, the zeal with which he speaks of killing many of them quickly does kind of scare me. >>

He's an old-school war vet, not much on mincing their words. Of course he doesn't mean just start killing lots of people indiscriminantly. The context was how to deal with terrorists.

Be thankful we have a culture of fit young men who are not only trained to kill efficiently to protect American citizens and their allies, but will do so with zeal when asked. When diplomacy fails and the only realistic solution left amounts to killing people and breaking things, that's who you want doing it. Not a bunch of weasle dicks.
 
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