Is this illegal?

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Alright, I'm going running.

Handgun - check
Taser - check
Machete - check
Retractable baton - check

Wish me luck, I hope I make it back!

Stop crying.

Go back to your room and listen to Rage Against the Machine while you fap to images of Lenin.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I can't imagine running with a gun,

KT

Why? You run faster that way.

duh...everyone knows you run faster with a knife!

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: jonks

before I reply, got a link to the story?

Here's the poster's original story (site down at the moment)

www.dravness.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=86

Here is a recap from a few weeks ago (the event is several years old)

http://www.ar15.com/forums/top...=1&f=5&t=741945&page=1

Thanks. I'm looking on my own, but got any news articles by any chance? His laymen interpretation of what happened to him isn't what I was looking for.

ED: I read through the whole thread and there were shens calls even there. They point out a few inconsistencies or strange things in the story. I'm not saying it's definitely false, just that a self-defense shooting resulting in 2 dead gang members would make the papers somewhere, and if it happened in 2002 the news articles should be easily available online.

So trying to argue the legality of the charges he claims he faced is difficult if I don't know whether I'm arguing against a fictional character. On reflection, I'm calling shens until I see some sort of supporting evidence that this story really happened.

Some of the problem lies in that the original threads are gone that would have had any supporting posts. Entirely possible it's fake though. But I'd rather err on the side of caution since it's nothing over the top.

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: FallenHero
My first question would be...why are you aiming for the head?

Most likely place to get instant incapacitation which is what you want. Unfortunately it brings up all sorts of other problems.

Such as I dunno...MISSING YOUR TARGET under stress. I realize WHY a headshot is nice for instant threat reduction, however actually hitting it in a high stress, quick draw, fast moving situation is an entirely different manner.

Ah, the difference between 'I read it on the internet' and 'practical experience/application'.

No kidding. Although I am sure that isn't what Bruno was implying, so it wasn't meant as an attack on him or anything.

I still remember some of the best firearm training I've had like it was yesterday. Walking forward, pretending to see a gun on a traffic stop, drawing and firing while retreating to take cover against a target that is moving...holy crap.

After that, it was me and another guy practicing room entries with him providing covering fire while I moved from cover to cover.

I shoot perfect during qualifications (or near perfect.) My shots were on paper, but all over during that training. Doing that makes you think twice about how "good" you are at shooting.

Yeah, when it comes time, you'll be lucky to be pointing in the general direction and pulling the trigger as fast as you can.

Was just stating that in the big picture the most effective shot will be one in the noggin. Certainly not the most practical or advised shot.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Dari
1. Somebody pulls a knife on me. I take out my legal concealed gun, aim for their head, and shoot, killing them.

2. Somebody pulls a gun on me. I take out my legal concealed gun, aim for their head, and shoot, killing them.

Am I supposed to warn them after I've pulled out my weapon? Can I shoot to kill or do I have to maim them?

Chances are far greater that you will shoot someone just trying to pass your fat arse.

Now i'm not against guns, but guns in the hands of the wrong people worry me greatly, wether it's for good intentions or bad doesn't really matter when you shoot someone because you are freaked out by the dark of night.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Alright, I'm going running.

Handgun - check
Taser - check
Machete - check
Retractable baton - check

Wish me luck, I hope I make it back!

Stop crying.

Go back to your room and listen to Rage Against the Machine while you fap to images of Lenin.

I am in Afghanistan and i'm not that scared, if you're scared enough to have to carry in your own damn neighbourhood, something is seriously fucked up.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Alright, I'm going running.

Handgun - check
Taser - check
Machete - check
Retractable baton - check

Wish me luck, I hope I make it back!

Stop crying.

Go back to your room and listen to Rage Against the Machine while you fap to images of Lenin.

Who's crying? The OP, yes but not me. Maybe, you've never heard of sarcasm.

I love for the OP to forward some of the hundreds of emails he has collected that talk about male joggers getting assaulted/mugged/etc. Or a clip from the local police log.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I am in Afghanistan and i'm not that scared, if you're scared enough to have to carry in your own damn neighbourhood, something is seriously fucked up.

It has absolutely nothing whatsoever with being scared. At least for me.

I carry a firearm for the same reason that I wear a seat belt and have a fire extinguisher in my house. In the event that something incredibly unlikely happens, I want to do what I can to tilt the odds in my favor. It's that simple.

ZV

 

[ctark]

Originally posted by: OdiN
1 - If you feared for your life, you're justified in shooting.

2 - If you feared for your life, you're justified in shooting.

If you shoot to wound, it's bad for you because then they can sue you if they live. Also just empty several rounds into the person, because it will look more like you feared for your life that way.

Okay so what your saying is if a warlock fears me.. then i can shoot?

 

[TheVrolok]

Deadly Force / Castle Doctrine:
New York is not a Castle Doctrine state and has no stand-your-ground law.

From the NY CCP info posted earlier.

Looks like since you're already out jogging, you better start running your ass away before you do any shooting.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Alright, I'm going running.

Handgun - check
Taser - check
Machete - check
Retractable baton - check

Wish me luck, I hope I make it back!

Stop crying.

Go back to your room and listen to Rage Against the Machine while you fap to images of Lenin.

Who's crying? The OP, yes but not me. Maybe, you've never heard of sarcasm.

I love for the OP to forward some of the hundreds of emails he has collected that talk about male joggers getting assaulted/mugged/etc. Or a clip from the local police log.

Here's one you stupid, arrogant SOB. The sick bastard that did this cut out her eyelids and ears.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new...ied_to_kill_her-2.html

 

[Newbian]

Originally posted by: ctark


Okay so what your saying is if a warlock fears me.. then i can shoot?

Please, as if you wouldn't be dead 5 seconds later from their dots.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Alright, I'm going running.

Handgun - check
Taser - check
Machete - check
Retractable baton - check

Wish me luck, I hope I make it back!

Stop crying.

Go back to your room and listen to Rage Against the Machine while you fap to images of Lenin.

Who's crying? The OP, yes but not me. Maybe, you've never heard of sarcasm.

I love for the OP to forward some of the hundreds of emails he has collected that talk about male joggers getting assaulted/mugged/etc. Or a clip from the local police log.

Here's one you stupid, arrogant SOB. The sick bastard that did this cut out her eyelids and ears.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new...ied_to_kill_her-2.html

So, are you a guy or a girl? If you're a guy, you're afraid of being raped when you go jogging?

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Alright, I'm going running.

Handgun - check
Taser - check
Machete - check
Retractable baton - check

Wish me luck, I hope I make it back!

Stop crying.

Go back to your room and listen to Rage Against the Machine while you fap to images of Lenin.

Who's crying? The OP, yes but not me. Maybe, you've never heard of sarcasm.

I love for the OP to forward some of the hundreds of emails he has collected that talk about male joggers getting assaulted/mugged/etc. Or a clip from the local police log.

Here's one you stupid, arrogant SOB. The sick bastard that did this cut out her eyelids and ears.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new...ied_to_kill_her-2.html

So, are you a guy or a girl? If you're a guy, you're afraid of being raped when you go jogging?

Keep running your mouth like that. Karma's a bitch when it happens. It might not be you but it'll probably be your wife, mother, sister. I would suggest you STFU before bad news greets your family.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Alright, I'm going running.

Handgun - check
Taser - check
Machete - check
Retractable baton - check

Wish me luck, I hope I make it back!

Stop crying.

Go back to your room and listen to Rage Against the Machine while you fap to images of Lenin.

Who's crying? The OP, yes but not me. Maybe, you've never heard of sarcasm.

I love for the OP to forward some of the hundreds of emails he has collected that talk about male joggers getting assaulted/mugged/etc. Or a clip from the local police log.

Here's one you stupid, arrogant SOB. The sick bastard that did this cut out her eyelids and ears.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new...ied_to_kill_her-2.html

So, are you a guy or a girl? If you're a guy, you're afraid of being raped when you go jogging?

Keep running your mouth like that. Karma's a bitch when it happens. It might not be you but it'll probably be your wife, mother, sister. I would suggest you STFU before bad news greets your family.

Why change the subject? You're single and you want a gun to go jogging with b/c you're scared of being raped by a 6'1" black man.

You don't want a gun to protect anyone but yourself b/c you're afraid of being male jogging alone. Maybe, you're a woman trapped in a man's body?

 

[Newbian]

*Grabs a bucket of popcorn and watches the show*

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Alright, I'm going running.

Handgun - check
Taser - check
Machete - check
Retractable baton - check

Wish me luck, I hope I make it back!

Stop crying.

Go back to your room and listen to Rage Against the Machine while you fap to images of Lenin.

Who's crying? The OP, yes but not me. Maybe, you've never heard of sarcasm.

I love for the OP to forward some of the hundreds of emails he has collected that talk about male joggers getting assaulted/mugged/etc. Or a clip from the local police log.

Here's one you stupid, arrogant SOB. The sick bastard that did this cut out her eyelids and ears.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new...ied_to_kill_her-2.html

So, are you a guy or a girl? If you're a guy, you're afraid of being raped when you go jogging?

Keep running your mouth like that. Karma's a bitch when it happens. It might not be you but it'll probably be your wife, mother, sister. I would suggest you STFU before bad news greets your family.

Why change the subject? You're single and you want a gun to go jogging with b/c you're scared of being raped by a 6'1" black man.

You don't want a gun to protect anyone but yourself b/c you're afraid of being male jogging alone. Maybe, you're a woman trapped in a man's body?

Here's another one, you son of a whore. But keep trivializing these violent events and I'll keep bringing them so you can understand what I'm talking about, asshole.
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/30285.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Dead men tell no tales. It's your word vs. the word of a dead guy with a knife beside him.

 

[Dari]

http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/55262

 

[ctark]

Originally posted by: Newbian

Originally posted by: ctark


Okay so what your saying is if a warlock fears me.. then i can shoot?

Please, as if you wouldn't be dead 5 seconds later from their dots.

What if i have cloak of shadows?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Alright, I'm going running.

Handgun - check
Taser - check
Machete - check
Retractable baton - check

Wish me luck, I hope I make it back!

Stop crying.

Go back to your room and listen to Rage Against the Machine while you fap to images of Lenin.

Who's crying? The OP, yes but not me. Maybe, you've never heard of sarcasm.

I love for the OP to forward some of the hundreds of emails he has collected that talk about male joggers getting assaulted/mugged/etc. Or a clip from the local police log.

Here's one you stupid, arrogant SOB. The sick bastard that did this cut out her eyelids and ears.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new...ied_to_kill_her-2.html

So, are you a guy or a girl? If you're a guy, you're afraid of being raped when you go jogging?

Keep running your mouth like that. Karma's a bitch when it happens. It might not be you but it'll probably be your wife, mother, sister. I would suggest you STFU before bad news greets your family.

Why change the subject? You're single and you want a gun to go jogging with b/c you're scared of being raped by a 6'1" black man.

You don't want a gun to protect anyone but yourself b/c you're afraid of being male jogging alone. Maybe, you're a woman trapped in a man's body?

Here's another one, you son of a whore. But keep trivializing these violent events and I'll keep bringing them so you can understand what I'm talking about, asshole.
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/30285.

Dumbass, you fail at linking. Your link didn't even detail the tragedy of his death. You should have posted this one - http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/30254.

You still haven't posted a link about a male being assaulted/mugged/raped while jogging.

edit - fwiw an ex-gf of mine graduated from Columbia. She never felt the need to carry a gun nor fear for her life.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I am in Afghanistan and i'm not that scared, if you're scared enough to have to carry in your own damn neighbourhood, something is seriously fucked up.

It has absolutely nothing whatsoever with being scared. At least for me.

I carry a firearm for the same reason that I wear a seat belt and have a fire extinguisher in my house. In the event that something incredibly unlikely happens, I want to do what I can to tilt the odds in my favor. It's that simple.

ZV

You cannot be serious? You carry a gun for safety an not because you are scared?

If i ever felt the need to carry a gun, i'd fucking move, i have NEVER felt that need, not once, not walking alone through Sheffield from the pub, not even felt any worries when my daughter walked home late (2300).

If you don't get what the difference of function and purpose between a firearm and a seatbelt or a fire extinguisher is then please stay away from people forever.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I am in Afghanistan and i'm not that scared, if you're scared enough to have to carry in your own damn neighbourhood, something is seriously fucked up.

It has absolutely nothing whatsoever with being scared. At least for me.

I carry a firearm for the same reason that I wear a seat belt and have a fire extinguisher in my house. In the event that something incredibly unlikely happens, I want to do what I can to tilt the odds in my favor. It's that simple.

ZV

You cannot be serious? You carry a gun for safety an not because you are scared?

If i ever felt the need to carry a gun, i'd fucking move, i have NEVER felt that need, not once, not walking alone through Sheffield from the pub, not even felt any worries when my daughter walked home late (2300).

If you don't get what the difference of function and purpose between a firearm and a seatbelt or a fire extinguisher is then please stay away from people forever.

Quit trolling.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Dumbass, you fail at linking. Your link didn't even detail the tragedy of his death. You should have posted this one - http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/30254.

You still haven't posted a link about a male being assaulted/mugged/raped while jogging.

edit - fwiw an ex-gf of mine graduated from Columbia. She never felt the need to carry a gun nor fear for her life.

The others are security alerts and don't make it into the papers. Furthermore, I see no reason talking to you further if you cannot comprehend the violent nature of the area around Columbia. You are an arrogant and ignorant piece of human shit. I'm sure your parents wished they wore a condom that terrible night. Then you would've been thrown out like the garbage you turned out to be.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I am in Afghanistan and i'm not that scared, if you're scared enough to have to carry in your own damn neighbourhood, something is seriously fucked up.

It has absolutely nothing whatsoever with being scared. At least for me.

I carry a firearm for the same reason that I wear a seat belt and have a fire extinguisher in my house. In the event that something incredibly unlikely happens, I want to do what I can to tilt the odds in my favor. It's that simple.

ZV

You cannot be serious? You carry a gun for safety an not because you are scared?

If i ever felt the need to carry a gun, i'd fucking move, i have NEVER felt that need, not once, not walking alone through Sheffield from the pub, not even felt any worries when my daughter walked home late (2300).

If you don't get what the difference of function and purpose between a firearm and a seatbelt or a fire extinguisher is then please stay away from people forever.

The purpose of a firearm is to provide a means for a weaker individual to resist a stronger one. It is an item of last resort, but it remains capable of tipping the odds in the favor of the person who carries it.

Just like a firearm, a seatbelt or a fire extinguisher provide an emergency option in situations that one hopes do not come up. I am not scared of getting into an accident, but I wear a seat belt to increase my odds of survival in the unlikely even that one may happen. I am not scared of my grill catching fire, but I have a fire extinguisher nearby to increase my own odds if a fire should begin to spread. Likewise, I am not scared of being attacked, but I carry because it seems foolish not to take advantage of that option when it is available and can only help.

Properly handled, a firearm does nothing but improve my odds if a very unlikely thing happened. Neither I, nor others, incur additional risk from carrying a firearm, and I increase my odds of surviving in the event of an attack, even though I do not "fear" an attack as it is statistically unlikely. It's a simple matter of understanding the odds. The upside potential of carrying a firearm is indeed small, but the downside potential is smaller still. On the balance, there is benefit to it even when there is no fear of an incident occurring.

ZV

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I am in Afghanistan and i'm not that scared, if you're scared enough to have to carry in your own damn neighbourhood, something is seriously fucked up.

It has absolutely nothing whatsoever with being scared. At least for me.

I carry a firearm for the same reason that I wear a seat belt and have a fire extinguisher in my house. In the event that something incredibly unlikely happens, I want to do what I can to tilt the odds in my favor. It's that simple.

ZV

You cannot be serious? You carry a gun for safety an not because you are scared?

If i ever felt the need to carry a gun, i'd fucking move, i have NEVER felt that need, not once, not walking alone through Sheffield from the pub, not even felt any worries when my daughter walked home late (2300).

If you don't get what the difference of function and purpose between a firearm and a seatbelt or a fire extinguisher is then please stay away from people forever.

The purpose of a firearm is to provide a means for a weaker individual to resist a stronger one. It is an item of last resort, but it remains capable of tipping the odds in the favor of the person who carries it.

Just like a firearm, a seatbelt or a fire extinguisher provide an emergency option in situations that one hopes do not come up. I am not scared of getting into an accident, but I wear a seat belt to increase my odds of survival in the unlikely even that one may happen. I am not scared of my grill catching fire, but I have a fire extinguisher nearby to increase my own odds if a fire should begin to spread. Likewise, I am not scared of being attacked, but I carry because it seems foolish not to take advantage of that option when it is available and can only help.

Properly handled, a firearm does nothing but improve my odds if a very unlikely thing happened. I incur no additional risk from carrying a firearm, and I increase my odds of surviving in the event of an attack, even though I do not "fear" an attack as it is statistically unlikely. It's a simple matter of understanding the odds. The upside potential of carrying a firearm is indeed small, but the downside potential is smaller still. On the balance, there is benefit to it even when there is no fear of an incident occurring.

ZV

He's British. They have a trillion security cameras and the criminals keep attacking. They think a camera will deter a criminal when a gun works so much better.