Is this the end of Twinkies?

Londo_Jowo

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emperus

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Yet again... stupid union workers are choosing no job and zero benefits.

How low a wage should people accept? Is $5 an hour a suitable wage to pay someone? I think we are re-litigating debates we had in prior points in the history of our country.
 

Pr0d1gy

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Yet again... stupid union workers are choosing no job and zero benefits.

No job is better than a job making $8 an hour with no benefits working for some asshole who is trying to up productivity and cut costs to impress his imperial slave masters. Meanwhile, there are people in that company making millions. So yeah, read the article next time. They already accepted a deal that lowered their salaries and took their benefits before, enough is enough.
 

zsdersw

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No job is better than a job making $8 an hour with no benefits working for some asshole who is trying to up productivity and cut costs to impress his imperial slave masters. Meanwhile, there are people in that company making millions. So yeah, read the article next time. They already accepted a deal that lowered their salaries and took their benefits before, enough is enough.

I did read the article, dipshit.

If things are so bad for them, why don't they just quit? If they're willing to lose their jobs and the cuts they've accepted are too much, why don't they just quit and find employment elsewhere?

Last time I checked, Hostess isn't the only large-scale bakery.
 
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Ausm

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How low a wage should people accept? Is $5 an hour a suitable wage to pay someone? I think we are re-litigating debates we had in prior points in the history of our country.

No wage is low enough for a Rightist unless it is his/her wages.
 

techs

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Beat me to it...lol

My wife and I saw chocolate Twinkies in the store the other day and we both commented on whether Tallahassee would eat them.

I think we know the answer. Tallahassee is a purist.
 

Genx87

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How low a wage should people accept? Is $5 an hour a suitable wage to pay someone? I think we are re-litigating debates we had in prior points in the history of our country.

I had no idea their wages were cut to 5 dollars an hour. Soon it looks like they will be cut to 0 dollars an hour and twinkies will be made in China. Those jobs never to come back.

At what point do unions and their members look at reality and realize a company in bankruptcy has nothing else to give?

And I think the most interesting thing about this story is they are asking for an initial pay cut then will grant pay increases after. In other words the company is trying to get through bankruptcy and asking the workers to sacrafice some to keep their jobs. The workers are apparently saying they would rather not have a job.
 

emperus

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I had no idea their wages were cut to 5 dollars an hour. Soon it looks like they will be cut to 0 dollars an hour and twinkies will be made in China. Those jobs never to come back.

At what point do unions and their members look at reality and realize a company in bankruptcy has nothing else to give?

And I think the most interesting thing about this story is they are asking for an initial pay cut then will grant pay increases after. In other words the company is trying to get through bankruptcy and asking the workers to sacrafice some to keep their jobs. The workers are apparently saying they would rather not have a job.

Are you saying that If it gets to point where a company can only pay $5 and hour. The workers should accept that and continue working?
 

Genx87

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Are you saying that If it gets to point where a company can only pay $5 and hour. The workers should accept that and continue working?

Hardly at all. I am waiting for you to introduce evidence they are asking for 5 dollars an hour. Which falls below fed min wage.

And do you plan to answer my questions about at what point does a union and its members face reality?
 

randomrogue

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What exactly are they getting paid?

I read about this last night and I could have sworn it was an 8% reduction with it being restored or even increased over 3 years.
 

Steeplerot

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And do you plan to answer my questions about at what point does a union and its members face reality?

When they are roasting the greedy pig that tried to pay them 5$ to support their family and realize they didn't bring any salt?
 

zsdersw

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Are you saying that If it gets to point where a company can only pay $5 and hour. The workers should accept that and continue working?

The workers should accept what they want to accept and reject what they want to reject. If they or some of them want to accept $5/hr they should accept it and continue working.

If they or some of them don't want to accept $5/hr they should reject it, quit, and and find employment elsewhere.
 

SheHateMe

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You could always hire illegals to make Hostess Bakery products...you can treat them like shit, pay them an incredibly low wage and you don't have to worry about selfish Americans that don't want to be treated like crap by the multi million dollar corporations they work for.
 

Genx87

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When they are roasting the greedy pig that tried to pay them 5$ to support their family and realize they didn't bring any salt?

And when do you think that is going to happen in this story? Sounds to me like the only thing they will be roasting is their bank accounts as their paycheck ceases to come in. Nice plan, they really showed those greedy bastards comrade!
 

Matt1970

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Hostess filed for bankruptcy in January, its second trip to bankruptcy court since 2004.

The Union will probably not buckle and stand thier ground in the name of the workers. It's the right thing to do. I hope they remember to write that down on their unemployment application.
 
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