Is this the new S5?

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ponyo

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This is the most disappointing Galaxy phone release yet. I would choose Sony Xperia Z2 over Samsung Galaxy 5.
 

cliftonite

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Big meh. Still nothing that is compelling me to update from my Note 2. I guess ill wait for the Note 4 or Moto phablet.
 
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Good lord is this thing hideous. I like Samsung products in general (my F8500 is by far the nicest TV I've ever owned), but remain mystified by their mobile design decisions. There is no way in hell I would ever choose this over an iPhone or HTC One.
 

marcplante

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So the new HTC One will have a micro SD slot. There's still a leap of faith with the non-removable battery, but I really like having the extendable memory. I'll wait a little longer with my GS2.

March 24th is the new waiting date.
 
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Everyone here is just wanting some massive spec bump. Like I said spec wars only go so far and was important in an era where lag was prevalent.
 

tsupersonic

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Everyone here is just wanting some massive spec bump. Like I said spec wars only go so far and was important in an era where lag was prevalent.
Nope, honestly wasn't expecting a massive difference in specs. I predicted (who didn't) them upgrading to the Snapdragon 8xx, which they did, slight camera bump, and that's it. Where they need to work on is hardware design, and software improvements (less bloat).
 

Ravynmagi

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Samsung is the biggest phone manufacture in the world. It seems kinda strange that they would not coordinate it's most successful flagship product with the new Snapdragon SoC. Galaxy S5 is launching with basically the same SoC that phones have been shipping since last fall (small 200MHz speed bump in the 801).

Feels like Samsung is coasting a bit. Hopefully LG and HTC can jump on what feels like a good opportunity for them.

HTC M8, what I thought was not going to be very impressive against the rumored Galaxy S5, now suddenly looks like a very good phone compared to the real Galaxy S5. LG's G Pro 2 looking better today too.

And pretty sad when I think HTC's cheap Desire phones announced today look much cooler than Samsung's Galaxy S5.
 

ImDonly1

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It doesn't matter.
Everyone said the same thing during the S3 and S4 launches. They still sold lots and everyone forgot about it 2 weeks later.

Agree though, it doesn't have anything over the S4 that I really want. Would rather get the Nexus 5, new HTC One or the Xperia Z2.

Not even considering another Samsung smartphone after they locked down the ATT S4. Luckily I didn't update mine to the newest update which locked the bootloader.
 

Ravynmagi

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Yeah, Samsung will launch the S5 on all the carriers at once.

Meanwhile I fear Sony, HTC, and LG will be stupid again, get into some exclusive launch with a single carrier in the US, probably AT&T, and make people wait weeks or months for it to launch on other carriers. And I can't imagine carriers could possibly be paying these guys enough to make up for the lost sales they are likely losing by not being on all the carriers at once.
 

kaerflog

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When Apple release the 5s, I thought Samsung would really thrive with the S4, that didn't happened.
I'm guessing that when Apple release the 6 with a bigger screen, it will put a bigger dent into the S5 sales. Disclaimer: I'm an Android user. I haven't used an iPhone since the 4.
Just making an observation.
BTW. The S5 to me, doesn't really have any advantages over the Lg G2.
 

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Interesting. If Apple does release a bigger phone (4.7+) it could disrupt Samsung a bit. Samsung used all the aces up their sleeve the last couple go rounds and are now in the Apple hell of trying to find different ways to make their next releases more desirable. Waving your hand at a phone and clunky, ugly smart watches aren't going to cut it.

Apple at least held a couple hands back and can crank up screen size another time or two to churn some sales.
 

s44

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When Apple release the 5s, I thought Samsung would really thrive with the S4, that didn't happened.
Actually, they did. It's just that the high-end phone market is shrinking, particularly in non-subsidy markets.
 

Mopetar

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Actually, they did. It's just that the high-end phone market is shrinking, particularly in non-subsidy markets.

I don't think it's shrinking in absolute size. It's just shrinking as a percentage of the overall market because more emerging markets are buying more low-end smartphones.
 
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Nope, honestly wasn't expecting a massive difference in specs. I predicted (who didn't) them upgrading to the Snapdragon 8xx, which they did, slight camera bump, and that's it. Where they need to work on is hardware design, and software improvements (less bloat).
I think if everyone stops drooling over just raw performance and takes a step back and looks at what realistically new smartphones could have, there's not likely many enhancements. The problem is everyone still expects some massive spec war still, like the doubling of cores, RAM, storage, megapixels with EACH release. Those used to be huge issues given that Android lagged like hell, so going from single to dual core was huge, and so was going from dual to quad. The same when RAM doubled from 256mb to 512mb (oh god, finally), and 512mb to 1gb, and finally 1gb to 2gb.

I honestly thing as an out of the box experience, just cleaning up TouchWiz on a GS5 will do wonders in terms of improvements. I mean, honestly, what did people expect? Samsung's really been pushing the edge in terms of featureset and capabilities already. The only lacking area has really been software and bloat, which they set out to address this round.

It's not a big update, but it's a better release than the past two GS phones.

I don't think it's shrinking in absolute size. It's just shrinking as a percentage of the overall market because more emerging markets are buying more low-end smartphones.

Absolutely. The Nexus 5 and Moto G are not eating up GS4 sales fast enough compared to the market growth.

Also, what's with all the "omg ugly" comments? Where were you guys when the GS3 launched? If anything, the GS4 and GS5 have looked FAR better than the GS3.

Edit: To me, we're kinda past the days of just releasing new hardware over and over again. There's bigger fish to fry, and to me if Google were to add options to control permission better, add sync settings, add a better battery saver built into Android, those would be far better experience enhancers today than going octa core or even a faster CPU.

The other way to look at it is if you look at a Nexus 5, and you ask what changes would I like, I'd say "better camera, better battery life, and in general to be more competitive with the flagship devices." But with a GS4, the features are there. It's mainly the software that needs a rework.
 
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StrangerGuy

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Why make your phone flagship even bigger, Samsung? Don't you already have a million other larger phablets under your belt already? And you still think having 4 icon rows on a 5+ inch screen is still OK in bloody 2014?

BTW, 2014 will be the year of cheapo and midrange phones. Flagships are fast becoming too expensive for what they offer over the previous gen.
 
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I think if everyone stops drooling over just raw performance and takes a step back and looks at what realistically new smartphones could have, there's not likely many enhancements. The problem is everyone still expects some massive spec war still, like the doubling of cores, RAM, storage, megapixels with EACH release. Those used to be huge issues given that Android lagged like hell, so going from single to dual core was huge, and so was going from dual to quad. The same when RAM doubled from 256mb to 512mb (oh god, finally), and 512mb to 1gb, and finally 1gb to 2gb.

I honestly thing as an out of the box experience, just cleaning up TouchWiz on a GS5 will do wonders in terms of improvements. I mean, honestly, what did people expect? Samsung's really been pushing the edge in terms of featureset and capabilities already. The only lacking area has really been software and bloat, which they set out to address this round.

It's not a big update, but it's a better release than the past two GS phones.



Absolutely. The Nexus 5 and Moto G are not eating up GS4 sales fast enough compared to the market growth.

Also, what's with all the "omg ugly" comments? Where were you guys when the GS3 launched? If anything, the GS4 and GS5 have looked FAR better than the GS3.

Edit: To me, we're kinda past the days of just releasing new hardware over and over again. There's bigger fish to fry, and to me if Google were to add options to control permission better, add sync settings, add a better battery saver built into Android, those would be far better experience enhancers today than going octa core or even a faster CPU.

The other way to look at it is if you look at a Nexus 5, and you ask what changes would I like, I'd say "better camera, better battery life, and in general to be more competitive with the flagship devices." But with a GS4, the features are there. It's mainly the software that needs a rework.

I totally agree with you.

NOW if we had a break through in battery technology that would be a HUGE boost.

Koing
 

rituraj

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Why make your phone flagship even bigger, Samsung? Don't you already have a million other larger phablets under your belt already? And you still think having 4 icon rows on a 5+ inch screen is still OK in bloody 2014?

BTW, 2014 will be the year of cheapo and midrange phones. Flagships are fast becoming too expensive for what they offer over the previous gen.

^This.

My Galaxy note II needs to have 7 home screens to contain all that I need. I know Create folders and stuff bla bla bla.. But seriously, on the screen that is dedicated to contact shortcuts, there is place for only 16. Come on Samsung, I need to call more people without opening the stupid contact list. Given that enormous space of 5.5", I would put 30 of them. And that stupid favourite contacts widget, Yuck.. Yeah, There is an app for that and bla bla bla, but it's a phone, I am not supposed to get an app again for contacts and phone.

Speaking of contacts, it can play Real racing without breaking a sweat, but open the contact list, goes your 2 seconds. Want to hang up instantly, wait till the screen turns on after pulling away from your ear, then hit the end button. There goes your 3 seconds.

And some people say "Grhhhh, Physical buttons, they are gross". Yeah Right!

The noteII is my first and only smartphone and I love it, but as a phone, not so great. I don't think other smart phones are any different. So much with Quad core this and that GHz..

No new device is impressive enough to part me from my current phone but I guess as a PHONE, I might consider a dumb phone and keep my note II for web, mail, game and stuff.

With the new releases, they are forgetting some more important aspects of a phone. Ruggedness, water proof (thanks it's there finally), more storage, a proper file system like windows, more brightness, more battery life. And Flash support? What the hell Adobe?! And Google?!

I am not blaming Samsung for this. They are the ones trying to give us what we want in terms of flexibility and what google is trying to take away, but does not seem enough. The point of buying a smartphone is to have a device that can work as a computer when the need arises because they are so freakin expensive.

Why can't we have a phone with 3 days of battery life, 450nits brightness, 128GB storage, carbon fiber body, crack resistant screen (non glass capacitive touch)? Yeah who will buy the next phone then!

Waiting for all of this and flexible and retractable screen to be reality.

Regards...
 

Commodus

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With the new releases, they are forgetting some more important aspects of a phone. Ruggedness, water proof (thanks it's there finally), more storage, a proper file system like windows, more brightness, more battery life. And Flash support? What the hell Adobe?! And Google?!

Just what are you doing on your phone that requires Flash these days? A large volume of web video (at least, what I see) is in HTML5, and that's increasingly true for audio. Games are better-served by native apps. Flash is a battery hog even on laptops, and it remains one of the most common sources of security holes and bugs... heck, modern browsers have plugin sandboxing primarily to contain the problems that Flash creates. Apple, Adobe and Google have done the world a favor by shifting the focus to HTML5 on the web, as far as I'm concerned.
 

Commodus

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Actually flash did work with the note 2 in the stock browser. But after the Jellybean 4.3 update, it stopped and crashes every time.

Eeek... well, that just sucks. If it's going to be there at all, it should at least work decently. I'll admit that I've been using Chrome for Android almost since its inception, so I haven't dealt with Flash on mobile for a long, long time.
 

dawheat

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Only a couple things IMO can keep this as top Android dog this year in the US:

- Either Samsung makes 32GB the lowest size in the US market at current pricing or undercuts the competition pricing

- A S5 Prime is released in conjunction with the above in early summer at full price (or between the previous S4 and Note 3 pricing

Frankly, the Note 3 was $699 at launch in the US with a larger screen, digitizer and pen and 32GB standard. The S4 was priced at between $599 and $649 which especially at the upper end seemed to be just margin padding. They could shake things up by introducing it at a lower price point (especially if you get it via the Next/Jump/etc programs that are increasing popular).
 

Mopetar

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Also, what's with all the "omg ugly" comments? Where were you guys when the GS3 launched? If anything, the GS4 and GS5 have looked FAR better than the GS3.

As I recall there were a few people who said that the GS3 didn't look as good as the GS2, but most people didn't care because it was such a massive upgrade in terms of specs (quad-core SoC, retina display, 2 GB RAM) that it would be silly to pass it up.

Honestly, I think they've made it look even worse. I understand that they're probably trying to go for a distinct visual style so that it's possible to tell it apart from previous generations, but to me each new iteration just looks more cheap than the last. Oh well, that's what they make cases for.
 
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