Is this the official 2013 Fantasy Football thread?

[SP33Demon]

Who do I start?

Dwayne Bowe or Eddie Royal.

Bowe, especially after yesterday's downgrade on his groin is not a good play. Also, per PFF:
<<On the outside, the Bills have gotten a boost from the return of Stephon Gilmore, who saw his snap count increase from 36 in Week 7 to 60 last week, and he responded by not allowing a single reception. Though he plays mostly at RCB (60%), Gilmore should see a fair amount of Dwayne Bowe, who’s behind Charles at 44 targets. Smith favors Bowe on hitches and in-breaking routes, and generally stays short throwing to all of his receivers — only 5.6% of Smith’s targets have travelled over 20 yards in the air, the lowest rate in the league.>>

Royal, per PFF:
<<If that’s not concerning enough, Washington has the 28th ranked passing defense, allowing over 273 yards per game. A quick glance at our grading confirms as much — not a single member of the Redskins’ secondary has earned a positive grade in coverage for the year. There are a few bright spots though. DeAngelo Hall has allowed his fair share of yards and touchdowns, but he also has three interceptions and five more pass breakups to his name. Opposite Hall is Josh Wilson, who has given up a QB rating of 101.9 on passes into his coverage. On the back end, they must hope that Brandon Meriweather can play better returning from his suspension — quarterbacks throwing in his direction have completed 85.7% of their throws at over 16 yards per catch.>>

Royal is the boom or bust easy choice. I would think about trading Bowe, package him in a 2for1 or 3for1 just to unload him.

 

[glenn1]

So the gf really wants Keenan Allen (to the point where I wonder if she has insider info, haha). She's 2-6, I'm 6-2. She's looking to "shake things up" in hopes to improve her record. That said, we trade talked, and came up with this:

I give her: Gore, K. Allen, Bennett

I get: Rice, K. Wright, Graham

Rest of my roster:

Brees
Megatron
Dez Bryant
Percy Harvin
Moreno
Bush
D. Murray
Gronk
K.C.
Prater

I can't see any reason to not do this, but I hope I'm not missing something you guys might see. I don't really like giving up Gore, he's my favorite little monster, but Graham's a monster too. I'm just worried about this foot thing he's got. I know it's not bad now, but still.

Do it. Allen to Wright is a wash, and the upgrade Bennett to Graham more than outweighs the downgrade Gore to Rice. And if Rice does turn it around this year, you'll come out far ahead. Graham is by far the best player in the deal and you're getting him. Plus it will make the g/f happy so that's the ultimate win/win.

 

[SP33Demon]

So the gf really wants Keenan Allen (to the point where I wonder if she has insider info, haha). She's 2-6, I'm 6-2. She's looking to "shake things up" in hopes to improve her record. That said, we trade talked, and came up with this:

I give her: Gore, K. Allen, Bennett

I get: Rice, K. Wright, Graham

Rest of my roster:

Brees
Megatron
Dez Bryant
Percy Harvin
Moreno
Bush
D. Murray
Gronk
K.C.
Prater

I can't see any reason to not do this, but I hope I'm not missing something you guys might see. I don't really like giving up Gore, he's my favorite little monster, but Graham's a monster too. I'm just worried about this foot thing he's got. I know it's not bad now, but still.

Graham was their prime red zone target even with a bum foot - and he converted 2 TDs on 18 snaps! Plus Graham plays the worst PC in the league this week (NYJ). I am riding that horse until it can run no more. Bennett, always battling injury and has McCown throwing to him. So you're getting better value here.

Rice and Gore, not equal value. I know many are saying Rice could bounce back after the bye, but I'm not convinced until his OL actually improves and/or he busts a long gain of 25 or more yards. To the Ravens credit, they did have a small positive Run Block against Pitt in week 7 so there are some signs of life coming out of the bye. However, Gore is always money in the bank, one of the few RBs you can say that about this year. In the least, I would ship Moreno before Gore, especially with the Broncos trying to protect him by lowering his usage (Montee Ball was vulturing goal line carries last game). I was thinking about a trade to dump Moreno from my team for someone like Gore. Since it's your g/f, I guess you probably shouldn't lowball her, lol. But all in all, Gore positions you to win it all in the playoffs better than Moreno.

K.Allen and K.Wright, not equal value because Allen is much more of a red zone threat and the #1 WR with A.Gates as his only competition. Slight though.

Overall Gore vs Rice, and Bennett vs Graham are the matchups to look at. So Gore vs Graham, it seems like you're stacked at RB so do it. WRs are easy to find off the waiver more than RBs/TEs so you don't have to worry about the small uneven value of Wright/Allen.

 

[MetalMat]

Graham was their prime red zone target even with a bum foot - and he converted 2 TDs on 18 snaps! Plus Graham plays the worst PC in the league this week (NYJ). I am riding that horse until it can run no more. Bennett, always battling injury and has McCown throwing to him. So you're getting better value here.

Rice and Gore, not equal value. I know many are saying Rice could bounce back after the bye, but I'm not convinced until his OL actually improves and/or he busts a long gain of 25 or more yards. To the Ravens credit, they did have a small positive Run Block against Pitt in week 7 so there are some signs of life coming out of the bye. However, Gore is always money in the bank, one of the few RBs you can say that about this year. In the least, I would ship Moreno before Gore, especially with the Broncos trying to protect him by lowering his usage (Montee Ball was vulturing goal line carries last game). I was thinking about a trade to dump Moreno from my team for someone like Gore. Since it's your g/f, I guess you probably shouldn't lowball her, lol. But all in all, Gore positions you to win it all in the playoffs better than Moreno.

K.Allen and K.Wright, not equal value because Allen is much more of a red zone threat and the #1 WR with A.Gates as his only competition. Slight though.

Overall Gore vs Rice, and Bennett vs Graham are the matchups to look at. So Gore vs Graham, it seems like you're stacked at RB so do it. WRs are easy to find off the waiver more than RBs/TEs so you don't have to worry about the small uneven value of Wright/Allen.

I'm with you on Graham, he is going to get targets even when he is not 100%. It happened last year.

Gore has been such a solid pick in one of my 12 team leagues, he has been picking up the slack that T-Rich has been leaving. I don't know if I would want to give him up but him being stacked at RB..... you gotta do it, Graham is a difference maker.

 

[MisterJackson]

Graham was their prime red zone target even with a bum foot - and he converted 2 TDs on 18 snaps! Plus Graham plays the worst PC in the league this week (NYJ). I am riding that horse until it can run no more. Bennett, always battling injury and has McCown throwing to him. So you're getting better value here.

Rice and Gore, not equal value. I know many are saying Rice could bounce back after the bye, but I'm not convinced until his OL actually improves and/or he busts a long gain of 25 or more yards. To the Ravens credit, they did have a small positive Run Block against Pitt in week 7 so there are some signs of life coming out of the bye. However, Gore is always money in the bank, one of the few RBs you can say that about this year. In the least, I would ship Moreno before Gore, especially with the Broncos trying to protect him by lowering his usage (Montee Ball was vulturing goal line carries last game). I was thinking about a trade to dump Moreno from my team for someone like Gore. Since it's your g/f, I guess you probably shouldn't lowball her, lol. But all in all, Gore positions you to win it all in the playoffs better than Moreno.

K.Allen and K.Wright, not equal value because Allen is much more of a red zone threat and the #1 WR with A.Gates as his only competition. Slight though.

Overall Gore vs Rice, and Bennett vs Graham are the matchups to look at. So Gore vs Graham, it seems like you're stacked at RB so do it. WRs are easy to find off the waiver more than RBs/TEs so you don't have to worry about the small uneven value of Wright/Allen.

So your vote is also a yes?

 

[MisterJackson]

I'm with you on Graham, he is going to get targets even when he is not 100%. It happened last year.

Gore has been such a solid pick in one of my 12 team leagues, he has been picking up the slack that T-Rich has been leaving. I don't know if I would want to give him up.

Yeah, Gore is the only reason I'm hesitant to pull the trigger on this deal. But Graham would be good insurance if Gronk doesn't step up. Ideally, I'd play em both, but Gronk may get benched later in the season if he and Brady don't start performing together.

 

[MetalMat]

Bowe, especially after yesterday's downgrade on his groin is not a good play. Also, per PFF:
<<On the outside, the Bills have gotten a boost from the return of Stephon Gilmore, who saw his snap count increase from 36 in Week 7 to 60 last week, and he responded by not allowing a single reception. Though he plays mostly at RCB (60%), Gilmore should see a fair amount of Dwayne Bowe, who&#8217;s behind Charles at 44 targets. Smith favors Bowe on hitches and in-breaking routes, and generally stays short throwing to all of his receivers &#8212; only 5.6% of Smith&#8217;s targets have travelled over 20 yards in the air, the lowest rate in the league.>>

Royal, per PFF:
<<If that&#8217;s not concerning enough, Washington has the 28th ranked passing defense, allowing over 273 yards per game. A quick glance at our grading confirms as much &#8212; not a single member of the Redskins&#8217; secondary has earned a positive grade in coverage for the year. There are a few bright spots though. DeAngelo Hall has allowed his fair share of yards and touchdowns, but he also has three interceptions and five more pass breakups to his name. Opposite Hall is Josh Wilson, who has given up a QB rating of 101.9 on passes into his coverage. On the back end, they must hope that Brandon Meriweather can play better returning from his suspension &#8212; quarterbacks throwing in his direction have completed 85.7% of their throws at over 16 yards per catch.>>

Royal is the boom or bust easy choice. I would think about trading Bowe, package him in a 2for1 or 3for1 just to unload him.

Do you have a premium account at PFF?

Bowe has been getting straight dropped in a couple leagues, I would pick him up and stash him if I had the room

 

[MetalMat]

Yeah, Gore is the only reason I'm hesitant to pull the trigger on this deal. But Graham would be good insurance if Gronk doesn't step up. Ideally, I'd play em both, but Gronk may get benched later in the season if he and Brady don't start performing together.

If you make the trade I would wait until Gronk has a good game then sell high on him if you need an upgrade at another position.

Your team is stacked btw, is it like a 6 or 8 team league?

 

[MisterJackson]

If you make the trade I would wait until Gronk has a good game then sell high on him if you need an upgrade at another position.

Your team is stacked btw, is it like a 6 or 8 team league?

8 team. I was kinda thinking that Gronk might be a good trading chip going forward. I drafted him, so I do kinda feel like a mother hen who's sat on an egg for weeks and watched it hatch.

 

[MetalMat]

8 team. I was kinda thinking that Gronk might be a good trading chip going forward. I drafted him, so I do kinda feel like a mother hen who's sat on an egg for weeks and watched it hatch.

Same here, drafted him in a 12 team standard league and am just glad I can finally start him instead of playing Tight End musical chairs.

In the league that I have Gore I would not trade gore just because of sentimental value. That team is put together with duct tape and glue sticks after a bunch of injures and the T-Rich draft bust, Rodgers and Gore are the only reasons I am even 4-4.

 

[MisterJackson]

Same here, drafted him in a 12 team standard league and am just glad I can finally start him instead of playing Tight End musical chairs.

In the league that I have Gore I would not trade gore just because of sentimental value. That team is put together with duct tape and glue sticks after a bunch of injures and the T-Rich draft bust, Rodgers and Gore are the only reasons I am even 4-4.

I want to take this trade, but I'm just worried it'll fuck up my chances at winning this league. Right now I'm pretty set, and so far this season, all of my risky trades have paid off (Bush, Moreno, Dez). At some point, my luck's gotta run out though.

I screwed myself last year by trading away Megatron and Cam when they weren't performing. The very next week they started their blowout second half of the season. The girl I traded them to used them to beat me in the championship game. I placed second. That was a bitter tasting loss, man

 

[benzylic]

Blackmon suspended indefinitely.

Sell, sell, sell!

Kinda sucks, I had him on my team. I have Dez, Welker, and Keenan Allen though so I'll be okay at WR. Probably drop him and pick up either Vereen, or Jonathan Stewart, or Monte Ball maybe.

 

[MetalMat]

Wow that sucks. I don't have him on any of my teams but I was trying to get him in a trade a couple days ago that got rejected. Glad it did

 

[SP33Demon]

So your vote is also a yes?

I would feel more comfortable giving up Moreno instead of Gore, but since it's your g/f then a tepid yes since she does hold the keys to some of your happiness.

You might be ok though, the Broncos' schedule has enough good teams coming up that you may be ok (Chargers twice, KC twice, Patriots, Titans). They will have to use Moreno if they want to win the division.

 

[SP33Demon]

Do you have a premium account at PFF?

Bowe has been getting straight dropped in a couple leagues, I would pick him up and stash him if I had the room

Yeah, premium account for both Fantasy Gold and Premium Statistics. I have to win this week since my work client has been talking smack. After last night (23 points out of Tannehill, Clay, and Marvin Jones), he said he's prepared to take it like a man. hahaha. Hopefully these subs pay off.

 

[SP33Demon]

Blackmon suspended indefinitely.

Sell, sell, sell!

Kinda sucks, I had him on my team. I have Dez, Welker, and Keenan Allen though so I'll be okay at WR. Probably drop him and pick up either Vereen, or Jonathan Stewart, or Monte Ball maybe.

Ouch. Upgrade Mike Brown pronto, esp with Cecil Shorts' iffy shoulder.

One other thing to note is if you need a desperation play for this week, PFF's Flier of the Week (has hit 7 of 8 last weeks) is Doug Baldwin vs Jonathan Banks at flanker position. However, there are conflicting reports about who will line up at the Z position, such as Kearse vs Banks. Both should still be available on Sunday. Baldwin has accomplished a lot more so far for FF, so he's the better bet with Tate getting banished to Revis Island. However, keep in mind that Seattle could go more run heavy this week since Marshawn Lynch complained.

I don't like to chase points but K.Stills is looking hot right now with Colston missing practice today. His snap counts have increased 4 straight weeks now and he's posted back to back double digit points, and is ahead of Lance Moore in the pecking order. He is ripe for the picking and could pop off against the NYJ. I may add him to my roster today and FLEX him since the NYJ secondary is going to get eaten alive since Brees will be forced to pass.

Edit: T-RICHARDSON alert per Rotoworld-
Colts OC Pep Hamilton admitted he has not been satisfied with his usage of Trent Richardson, and reexamined it during the Week 8 bye.
The Colts have been banging Richardson between the tackles behind poor run blockers, with very little success.
It's promising that Hamilton recognizes the issues. "I have to do a better job of finding ways to get Trent out in space," Hamilton said. "I have to do a better job coming up with schemes that not only give our offensive line a chance to be successful, but of course create holes for Trent and create schemes that complement his wealth of talent. That's one of the things that we spent time as an offensive staff looking at during the bye week." Because Richardson's perceived value is so low at the moment, he's worth targeting in trades on the cheap. He's still going to get the ball a lot in a productive offense, and has a chance to pay serious stretch-run dividends for forward-thinking fantasy owners.

Don't give up on TRich yet! I'm going to continue starting him, that offense has the weapons for him to succeed once they get it together.

 

[MetalMat]

Ouch. Upgrade Mike Brown pronto, esp with Cecil Shorts' iffy shoulder.

One other thing to note is if you need a desperation play for this week, PFF's Flier of the Week (has hit 7 of 8 last weeks) is Doug Baldwin vs Jonathan Banks at flanker position. However, there are conflicting reports about who will line up at the Z position, such as Kearse vs Banks. Both should still be available on Sunday. Baldwin has accomplished a lot more so far for FF, so he's the better bet with Tate getting banished to Revis Island. However, keep in mind that Seattle could go more run heavy this week since Marshawn Lynch complained.

I don't like to chase points but K.Stills is looking hot right now with Colston missing practice today. His snap counts have increased 4 straight weeks now and he's posted back to back double digit points, and is ahead of Lance Moore in the pecking order. He is ripe for the picking and could pop off against the NYJ. I may add him to my roster today and FLEX him since the NYJ secondary is going to get eaten alive since Brees will be forced to pass.

I dropped Mike James for Mike Brown in a ppr league. I was actually pretty hesitant to drop James as its a short bench (4 spots) and I only have one backup but I figure James won't do squat this week and I can just pick him up later if I want to. The upside to Brown potentially becoming the #1 WR is too much to pass up

 

[AmdEmAll]

Im between Keenan Allen and Danny Amendola but Kenny Stills is available.. he could very well be hot again this week. What do you guys think?

 

[MetalMat]

Im between Keenan Allen and Danny Amendola but Kenny Stills is available.. he could very well be hot again this week. What do you guys think?

If you wanna spin the Saints Roulette wheel and put your chips on Stills go for it. Otherwise I think Allen is the better option.

 

[tHa ShIzNiT]

Im between Keenan Allen and Danny Amendola but Kenny Stills is available.. he could very well be hot again this week. What do you guys think?

I'd go with Allen there. And to the guy deciding between Bowe and Royal, surely there are better guys available on your waiver wire. I wouldn't start either of them.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Stills is a desperation play. Start Allen.

I'm panicking about Sproles in that same offense, and I'm thinking of picking up Mike Tolbert and starting him over Sproles. He got so little playing time last week. Tolbert has had a touchdown in each of the last 3 games. It's a risk, but maybe it's worth it.

 

[KeithTalent]

Stills is a desperation play. Start Allen.

I'm panicking about Sproles in that same offense, and I'm thinking of picking up Mike Tolbert and starting him over Sproles. He got so little playing time last week. Tolbert has had a touchdown in each of the last 3 games. It's a risk, but maybe it's worth it.

Could be tough with Stewart back this week and if DeAngelo plays (lokoslike he will). I love Tolbert and have him on one of my teams, but I am still going to play Sproles over him this week, it's a PPR league though.

KT

 

[AmdEmAll]

If you wanna spin the Saints Roulette wheel and put your chips on Stills go for it. Otherwise I think Allen is the better option.

Hmm well this makes me question using him on my other league. My other option is Aaron Dobson.

What do you guys think about Dexter McCluster this week? Buffalo has given up the most points to WR's and he's done quite well the last two weeks? Pick him up instead of stills?

 

[SP33Demon]

If you wanna spin the Saints Roulette wheel and put your chips on Stills go for it. Otherwise I think Allen is the better option.

Yeah, both are great matchups but Allen is higher in the pecking order for his team vs Stills on his team.

If Colston doesn't play, Stills would have Graham (although may be limited due to foot), the RB (Thomas or Sproles checkdowns) and possibly Moore (lower than him on the pecking order though) and his snaps would most likely increase again (39 last week). He's still only averaging 3.2 targets a game but that could increase; he should be beating anyone on him from the Jets who are a hot mess right now. He's boom or bust like Marvin Jones but with more long term staying power - e.g. PFF just wrote an article on selling high on MJ.

 

[Away]

Never thought I would end up starting Locker over Brady and Ryan. :\