Is this true? Latino gangs in LA targetting blacks

[Braznor]

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Is this true or is that crooked cop Lee Baca just spinning stuff to make himself look like a hero?

 

[Braznor]

Sorry, mods, please move this to OT. I initially happened to think this topic could be political. Considering Baca's reputation, I think that 's a mistake now.

 

[maluckey]

I feel that this topic is appropriate in here.

Despite Bacas reputation and politics, there is a certain amount of truth in that it's known that the Crips and MS-13 are at each others throat over an alleged Crip informant turning evidence against MS-13. Other Latino groups wanting to gain favor with MS-13 could easily gain standing by whacking Crips. In some cases they might target any blacks associated with, or supporting Crips, even though they may not BE Crips themselves.

It's similar to what I see in Iraq with groups not actually associated with a particular organization, trying to gain favor by committing acts to please that other organization.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: maluckey
I feel that this topic is appropriate in here.

Despite Bacas reputation and politics, there is a certain amount of truth in that it's known that the Crips and MS-13 are at each others throat over an alleged Crip informant turning evidence against MS-13. Other Latino groups wanting to gain favor with MS-13 could easily gain standing by whacking Crips. In some cases they might target any blacks associated with, or supporting Crips, even though they may not BE Crips themselves.

It's similar to what I see in Iraq with groups not actually associated with a particular organization, trying to gain favor by committing acts to please that other organization.

It is called Sectarian violence. It is now "RAMPANT" in our country, with our open border policy.

 

[BoomerD]

According to my local newspaper it's true...Not at all surprising to me...gang warfare is pretty "RAMPANT" (not ramipd) in Kahleeforneeya. Far too often, they kill innocent bystanders in drive-by shootings or just because they happen to be wearing the "wrong color" of shirt, shoes, or hat.
The US government needs to start treating gangs like the terrorists they are.

 

[IronWing]

Some things never get old. Gangs are more violent this year than ever before. Just like last year, and the decade before, and the decade before. Hell, Able had to deal with the Cain Gang.

Edit: I forgot the most important part, but Boomer got there before me: To deal with this problem we need to give government more power!

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
The US government needs to start treating gangs like the terrorists they are.

They already are. That's why the problem is getting worse.

The War on Drugs allows gangs to profit. Legalize drugs, and you cut off their money supply.

Who would have thought that freedom and liberty were the answer?

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: ironwing
Edit: I forgot the most important part, but Boomer got there before me: To deal with this problem we need to give government more power!

Our government should have unlimited power to attack foreign invaders.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Maybe the nation's Blacks should, collectively, come out and oppose illegal immigration and mass legal immigration not just as a matter of economic self preservation but perhaps also as a matter of safety.

If we're having these kinds of problems, we only have ourselves to blame for it. I predict that the next president will do nothing substantial or even notable about illegal immigration and mass immigration, nor foreign work visas nor foreign outsourcing and that whoever gets elected will merely continue to help chaperone the nation to third world nationhood.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: BoomerD
The US government needs to start treating gangs like the terrorists they are.

They already are. That's why the problem is getting worse.

The War on Drugs allows gangs to profit. Legalize drugs, and you cut off their money supply.

Who would have thought that freedom and liberty were the answer?

eh? The "war on drugs" is simply a label. That label doesnt allow for any extra anything we wouldnt already been doing...its not the Patriot Act where special circumstances are allowed the stripping of certain rights...the lable of "war on drugs" doesnt change anything we wouldnt already be doing.

The argument sounds good though!

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: ironwing
Edit: I forgot the most important part, but Boomer got there before me: To deal with this problem we need to give government more power!

Our government should have unlimited power to attack foreign invaders.

I know you were being sarcastic, but there's SOME truth to what you said. I've always contended if border patrol and national guard posted at the border were given the authority to shoot to kill, I can almost guarantee illegal crossings would decrease. Fear of a .223 to the skull can be a great deterant.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: ironwing
Edit: I forgot the most important part, but Boomer got there before me: To deal with this problem we need to give government more power!

Our government should have unlimited power to attack foreign invaders.

I know you were being sarcastic, but there's SOME truth to what you said. I've always contended if border patrol and national guard posted at the border were given the authority to shoot to kill, I can almost guarantee illegal crossings would decrease. Fear of a .223 to the skull can be a great deterant.

I seriously doubt that Jaskalas was being sarcastic. I also agree with him, and you. One of the few true powers that our government should have is protecting us from foreign invaders.

 

[maluckey]

Ozoned

You may be dead on with your POV as far as gang on gang along racial lines being sectarian. I never thought about it that way. It's pretty much what's going on over here.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Many gangs do not care who they target.

In the late 80's, some LA gangs were moving down into San Diego.
There was a dispute with an Asian gang; the Latino gang drove by the High School where a gang member attended and let loose with an automatic pistol from the street into the school grounds.

w/ my children being part Asian, I moved the family out the next week from California for their safety. Two were attending that particular school at the time.

 

[babylon5]

Latino gangs are doing work most Americans won't do: shooting people based on race. It's hard work folks!

 

[rpanic]

To bad a lot of gangbangers are the children born here from illegals we will never be able to deport them and they will create more or less the same for generations.

 

[Farang]

The is directly caused by the criminalization of drugs.

 

[beyoku]

Originally posted by: Farang
The is directly caused by the criminalization of drugs.

:thumbsup:

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: ironwing
Edit: I forgot the most important part, but Boomer got there before me: To deal with this problem we need to give government more power!

Our government should have unlimited power to attack foreign invaders.

I know you were being sarcastic, but there's SOME truth to what you said. I've always contended if border patrol and national guard posted at the border were given the authority to shoot to kill, I can almost guarantee illegal crossings would decrease. Fear of a .223 to the skull can be a great deterant.

Well, if we are going to put forth unrealistic options, and since government is not real good at managing anything. Why not do it on the cheap and privatize,,,, just put a bounty on them? So much per set of ears.

 

[tomywishbone]

As noted; these Mexican gangs are simply doing work that lazy American gangs won't do. Are you willing to take a life for something as cheap as a verbal insult? Of course not.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: beyoku

Originally posted by: Farang
The is directly caused by the criminalization of drugs.

:thumbsup:

Heh... I said "The is." What the hell is that about.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Many gangs do not care who they target.

In the late 80's, some LA gangs were moving down into San Diego.
There was a dispute with an Asian gang; the Latino gang drove by the High School where a gang member attended and let loose with an automatic pistol from the street into the school grounds.

w/ my children being part Asian, I moved the family out the next week from California for their safety. Two were attending that particular school at the time.

I can't believe someone would go to all the trouble of buying a transferable machine gun for $3000-$10000, fill out the form 1, get it signed by their local police chief, wait the 6 months to get the transfer approved by the federal government, just to use it for a drive by shooting. Seems silly.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Many gangs do not care who they target.

In the late 80's, some LA gangs were moving down into San Diego.
There was a dispute with an Asian gang; the Latino gang drove by the High School where a gang member attended and let loose with an automatic pistol from the street into the school grounds.

w/ my children being part Asian, I moved the family out the next week from California for their safety. Two were attending that particular school at the time.

I can't believe someone would go to all the trouble of buying a transferable machine gun for $3000-$10000, fill out the form 1, get it signed by their local police chief, wait the 6 months to get the transfer approved by the federal government, just to use it for a drive by shooting. Seems silly.

Why go through all the paperwork, when you can just steal the weapon.
Just like the equivalent of an M16 can be purchased and then converted via a kit.

Plenty of people that are willing to provided illegals weapons to the gangs

 

[Dari]

I saw this on the Gangland series on the History Channel. With Latinos making up 44% of L.A., blacks there are doomed. The Mexicans are having kids at an unimaginable rate. And they're crossing the border as fast as possible. Blacks don't have many children.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Many gangs do not care who they target.

In the late 80's, some LA gangs were moving down into San Diego.
There was a dispute with an Asian gang; the Latino gang drove by the High School where a gang member attended and let loose with an automatic pistol from the street into the school grounds.

w/ my children being part Asian, I moved the family out the next week from California for their safety. Two were attending that particular school at the time.

I can't believe someone would go to all the trouble of buying a transferable machine gun for $3000-$10000, fill out the form 1, get it signed by their local police chief, wait the 6 months to get the transfer approved by the federal government, just to use it for a drive by shooting. Seems silly.

Why go through all the paperwork, when you can just steal the weapon.
Just like the equivalent of an M16 can be purchased and then converted via a kit.

Plenty of people that are willing to provided illegals weapons to the gangs

So are you saying they steal the guns from people... or they make their own guns? A quick look at ATF crime reports will show you that of the dozens of NFA registered fully automatic weapons stolen every year, exactly 0 of them are stolen from regular folks. They're all stolen from law enforcement. Regular folks tend to secure their $3000+ firearms.

As far as making their own illegal guns, I haven't seen many gang banger gunsmiths.