Is this true? The Food Stamp Capital of the U.S. is WHITE and REPUBLICAN

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cubby1223

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In spite of the prevailing stereotypes and assumptions about who uses SNAP Food Stamp benefits the most in the United States, the highest usage is not in Compton, Queens, nor the South Side of Chicago. Instead, a city that is 99.22% white and 95% Republican comes in the lead. Owsley County, Kentucky is a community of about 5,000, residents earning the lowest median household income in the country outside of Puerto Rico, according to the U.S. Census.
http://politicalblindspot.com/the-fo...nd-republican/

Not vouching for the veracity of this article. I'm sure people will chime in with their stats.

Maybe you should rethink where you read your news from.

Compton has a population of 100k. Queens 2.3 million. South side of Chicago 900k.

Of course statistics say somewhere there is a town of 5,000 with a higher percentage. Are you trying to make a racial statement? Has anyone ever said white Republicans don't use food stamps?

Yet here you are declaring a county of 5,000 people as a racial capital of America.
 

feralkid

Lifer
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It's just the result of redistribution of wealth, something all card carrying progressives are for. But you know, sometimes I think they don't want it redistributed equally. Just a feeling I have...

And that kind of thinking is why no one really likes you.

 

cubby1223

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Doc Savage Fan said:
emperus said:
I don't know your politics, so I will assume you are equally outraged at the GOP's platform in as much as the way they turn poverty into a "racial thing".

The post was clearly meant to call out the hypocrisy of those in the Republican party.
This is getting interesting. Please show me where the GOP's platform has turned poverty into a "racial thing".
I'm not playing that game with you. Go pretend somewhere else.

Ha! That's pretty rich! Make outlandish claims then when simply asked to verify the claims, refuse to "play that game" Can't refuse to play a game you yourself started!

I'm deeply sorry your attempt to insult and ridicule people you don't like didn't turn out the way you hoped it would
 

Cozarkian

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Gawd. What a load of horseshit attribution. Which wealthy Dems "refuse" to pay taxes?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125918497

Seriously? This was a pretty big topic. Wealthy democrats claimed taxes on wealthy should increase but despite the legal ability to voluntarily pay more in taxes, they failed to do so. That is at least as hypocritical as someone on food stamps who says food stamps should be eliminated or reduced.

The above, of course, wouldn't prove republicans aren't hypocrites, just that democrats are too. However, we don't know if the people in the town mentioned want to eliminate/reduce food stamps, so they might not be hypocrites.
 

Jhhnn

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Not surprising. The midwest is littered with small towns with high government support. Many of the towns in my area were huge in the 1940's during the coal boom. The towns had trolleys (like in San Francisco), 12 story brick buildings, a large residential area, large train stations, and a population of well over 80,000. Now the towns are around 7k with very little opportunity. Most of the surrounding towns are 95%+ white. Certain parts of Kentucky have long been known as the most impoverished part of the US.

Turning this into a racial thing is kind of gross.

Eastern Kentucky & surrounding regions went to hell in a handbasket a long time ago. Hell, it happened before most of our resident righties were even born-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_Regional_Commission

Appalachia was the pump & dump model of Capitalism used to create the Rust Belt- places like Buffalo, Erie, Cleveland, Detroit & Youngstown. It's a work in progress.

It's just more of the same migratory pillaging that American Job Creators have always done. It's apparently the divine right of capital to move on anywhere they want anytime they feel like it. There's a major political party dedicated to that.

There's plenty of it out west, too, from boom & bust railroads, farming, mining & logging, too. It just hasn't affected as many people in recent history.
 

nickqt

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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125918497

Seriously? This was a pretty big topic. Wealthy democrats claimed taxes on wealthy should increase but despite the legal ability to voluntarily pay more in taxes, they failed to do so. That is at least as hypocritical as someone on food stamps who says food stamps should be eliminated or reduced.

The above, of course, wouldn't prove republicans aren't hypocrites, just that democrats are too. However, we don't know if the people in the town mentioned want to eliminate/reduce food stamps, so they might not be hypocrites.
Nothing hypocritical about it.

Class traitors? Sure.

Hypocritical? No.

They are lobbying that, and this is key, so read it slowly if necessary, all wealthy people pay higher taxes. They are trying to change tax policy.
 

Jhhnn

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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125918497

Seriously? This was a pretty big topic. Wealthy democrats claimed taxes on wealthy should increase but despite the legal ability to voluntarily pay more in taxes, they failed to do so. That is at least as hypocritical as someone on food stamps who says food stamps should be eliminated or reduced.

The above, of course, wouldn't prove republicans aren't hypocrites, just that democrats are too. However, we don't know if the people in the town mentioned want to eliminate/reduce food stamps, so they might not be hypocrites.

Absolute doublespeak. Those people haven't refused to pay their taxes at all. They advocate for higher taxes on themselves & others like them, believing that leading by example won't make a significant difference, certainly not to anti-tax ravers like yourself.

They may, in truth, actually pay a higher % in taxes by not rabidly exploiting every tax loophole that the truly wealthy seem to love so much.
 

Cozarkian

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Nothing hypocritical about it.

Class traitors? Sure.

Hypocritical? No.

They are lobbying that, and this is key, so read it slowly if necessary, all wealthy people pay higher taxes. They are trying to change tax policy.

This thread advances the argument that republicans are hypocrites because they take advantage of benefits they want eliminated.

If you accept the above as true, then by analogy, wealthy democrats are hypocrites because they take advantage of benefits (unfair tax rates) that the want eliminated.

Similarly, if you don't believe the wealthy democrats shoild be criticized, then neither should you criticize the republicans in the linked article.
 

Cozarkian

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Absolute doublespeak. Those people haven't refused to pay their taxes at all. They advocate for higher taxes on themselves & others like them, believing that leading by example won't make a significant difference, certainly not to anti-tax ravers like yourself.

They may, in truth, actually pay a higher % in taxes by not rabidly exploiting every tax loophole that the truly wealthy seem to love so much.

I didn't state they refuse to pay taxes at all, I stated they refuse to pay what they claim is their fair share of taxes based on their level o wealth.

If they are justified in failing to voluntarily pay more taxes because other wealthy people won't, then poor rebublicans are justified in failing to decline food stamps because other poor people won't.
 

Jhhnn

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Nothing hypocritical about it.

Class traitors? Sure.

Hypocritical? No.

They are lobbying that, and this is key, so read it slowly if necessary, all wealthy people pay higher taxes. They are trying to change tax policy.

Class Traitor? That's what the arrogant bastards said about FDR. They can't come right out & say that any more, so they just cloak it in anti-merricuhn pinko leftist bleeding heart dirty hippie inner city scum accusations & the same lame claims of hypocrisy as above.

It corrals more chumps into the scam.
 

Jhhnn

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I didn't state they refuse to pay taxes at all, I stated they refuse to pay what they claim is their fair share of taxes based on their level o wealth.

Asked & answered, repeatedly. It's because nobody asked them to pay and because it wouldn't make a significant difference if they alone did so. Unlike many Righties, they realize that they're not the center of the universe.

If they are justified in failing to voluntarily pay more taxes because other wealthy people won't, then poor rebublicans are justified in failing to decline food stamps because other poor people won't.

Utterly specious. None of the ebil libruhls here have really said that poor republicans should decline food stamps. I just can't figure out why they think they're Republicans. Supporting ideology that would leave your own children hungry makes no sense except maybe in Glenbeckistan.
 

Fern

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When this topic runs its course, let's talk about why the income in Owsley County, Kentucky is so low. You know, the root cause from a political perspective?

Looks like they had two primary sources of income: (1) coal mining and (2) tabacco farming.

Says the govt bought out the tabacco farms. So those are gone along with the jobs.

Coal mining appears to have stopped as well.

Fern
 

Jhhnn

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Looks like they had two primary sources of income: (1) coal mining and (2) tabacco farming.

Says the govt bought out the tabacco farms. So those are gone along with the jobs.

Coal mining appears to have stopped as well.

Fern

They didn't buy out tobacco farmers. they bought out the system of quotas & price supports that had been in place since 1938. It's tough to make money in marginal tobacco farming w/o price supports.

Free market!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_and_Equitable_Tobacco_Reform_Act
 

Cozarkian

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Asked & answered, repeatedly. It's because nobody asked them to pay and because it wouldn't make a significant difference if they alone did so. Unlike many Righties, they realize that they're not the center of the universe.



Utterly specious. None of the ebil libruhls here have really said that poor republicans should decline food stamps. I just can't figure out why they think they're Republicans. Supporting ideology that would leave your own children hungry makes no sense except maybe in Glenbeckistan.

The point of this thread is to decry ebil consherbatibs for accepting food stamps when they claim food stamp policy changes are necessary. Nobody asked them to decline food stamps and it wouldn't do any good if they alone declined them.

Based on your last two sentences, you should be agreeing with my argument, not trying to refute it, so I'm moving on.
 

boomerang

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Looks like they had two primary sources of income: (1) coal mining and (2) tabacco farming.

Says the govt bought out the tabacco farms. So those are gone along with the jobs.

Coal mining appears to have stopped as well.

Fern
Thanks for the info. I figured coal but I forgot about tobacco. Our government has a real knack for putting people out of work.
 

Jhhnn

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The point of this thread is to decry ebil consherbatibs for accepting food stamps when they claim food stamp policy changes are necessary. Nobody asked them to decline food stamps and it wouldn't do any good if they alone declined them.

Based on your last two sentences, you should be agreeing with my argument, not trying to refute it, so I'm moving on.

It's more about labeling them as fools for wanting to cut their own throats & leave their children hungry.

It's about the triumph of feel good emotional propaganda over reason. It's all about Freedumb!
 

Jhhnn

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Thanks for the info. I figured coal but I forgot about tobacco. Our government has a real knack for putting people out of work.

So, you think we should go back to tobacco quotas & price supports? What about the sacred Free Market?
 

nickqt

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Looks like they had two primary sources of income: (1) coal mining and (2) tabacco farming.

Says the govt bought out the tabacco farms. So those are gone along with the jobs.

Coal mining appears to have stopped as well.

Fern
Coal mining hasn't stopped. Strip mining and machines have replaced the rabble.
 

Jhhnn

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how, in what he said, is he in any way advocating that?

He said or govt has a real knack for putting people out of work. If that's true wrt Owsley County tobacco farmers, it's because the system of price supports & quotas was withdrawn. He's also a consistent Free! Market! raver, yet more than willing to blame the ebil gubmint for the results of policy he advocates.

Of course he doesn't advocate a return to quotas- he's just crying crocodile tears, attempting to disown the results of what he's advocated all along.
 

marvdmartian

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I'd say this speaks volumes, much more so than the residents being white and/or conservative:
residents earning the lowest median household income in the country outside of Puerto Rico, according to the U.S. Census
 

IronWing

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Government does share some blame, not the feds, but the state. Kentucky will allow folks to get more or less permanent benefits if they can't find a job in their home county. Kentucky counties are generally only a bit larger than a Super-Walmart so drawing benefits is easier than in other states.

As far as coal jobs go, the longwall miner killed more coal jobs than all the environmental regulations, recessions, depressions, and alt energy schemes combined. The coal miners were automated out of their jobs. Poorly considered state policies encourage folks to stay in communities where the jobs are never coming back.
 

GreenGreen

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Not vouching for the veracity of this article. I'm sure people will chime in with their stats.

We all know that there is a lot of fraud and abuse going on being championed by Democrats and they want to expand on this,thats so they can control everyone.
 

Matt1970

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1011 Democrats and 2056 Republicans is not "95% Republican." Owsley County also does not have the highest percentage of food stamp recipients, although it is near the top of the list.

I don't know if anyone has done real research on which political party's voters consume the most benefits, nor do I really care. It's just not an interesting or useful metric, and I would be shocked if it changed a single person's opinion about SNAP or other benefits programs.

Did everyone miss this post or are they ignoring it so they can still use their community of 5000 for comparisons while claiming a state with a population of 19,000,000 (NY) is an outlier and should be ignored?
 
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