Is Trump a Republican?

[nickqt]

It's time for normal people to stop lending lifelines out to them.

The worst offender is, of course, the mainstream media, that makes its money selling the BothSidesDoIt™ biglie.

It's why the rabid right-wingers spit and scream about the "liberal media". The mainstream media provides the BothSidesDoIt™ biglie that allows all of the individual lies of the rabid-rightwingers to be apologized for instantly. Sure, an elected Republican senator said this, but, like, some blogger with 5 readers said that, and they're both equally bad!

 

[bradly1101]

He's not so secretly trying to take them down. His paycheck is really signed by Dr. Strangelove.

 

[SNC]

No

 

[ch33zw1z]

No

Voting survey says, yes. It sucks, but the party you claim to be part of disagrees with you. And, since he's taken office, he's followed the Con playbook pretty damn well. Pass ruled complete.

 

[soulcougher73]

Trump is whatever he needs to be to further himself. So the GOP welcomes the grifter....he'd be a Dem if he thought it would help him.

Do you think if somehow he had grifted his way into a Dem presidency but continued being the way he has been the Dems would still love him like the Trumptards do now? I want to believe his own DEM base in this case would be the ones calling for his impeachment. Although i dont think he would have been able to grift his way in on the Dem side.

 

[Stokely]

I do wonder if he really believes what he says; I wonder the same about all the right-wing talk radio people. When there is great gain to be had by acting a certain role--in Trump's case, support and adulation; for them, it's simply $--I think there are a lot of people willing to say just about anything.

End of the day though that hardly matters if the talk is talked and the walk is walked.

As far as whether he is a Republican--he is what the GOP has turned into, just more so. So: "Yes". I watched and listened to the party get manic during the Ken Starr/Clinton times and it's just kept going in that direction since. I was (R) and became (I) at that time. They have moved Trumpward if you will. He says the things that career politicians are too "political" to say. And unlike many I don't consider that a good thing, because I oppose almost every GOP position even if they make an attempt to be reasonable about it (unlike Trump). The only good thing about Trump in my view is that he has taken away the roaches' rock and they feel bold enough to stand in the sun. I'd rather see them as they truly are.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Do you think if somehow he had grifted his way into a Dem presidency but continued being the way he has been the Dems would still love him like the Trumptards do now? I want to believe his own DEM base in this case would be the ones calling for his impeachment. Although i dont think he would have been able to grift his way in on the Dem side.

I really can't say. Him actually grifting his way through a Dem primary is hard for me to fathom, because who Trump has been, was, and is was known prior to him running. Shit, it was known in 2012 when he was laughed out of the primary.

 

[Atreus21]

Yes he's a republican.

 

[zinfamous]

For the right price, Trump is whatever you want him to be, baby.

 

[bshole]

For the right price, Trump is whatever you want him to be, baby.

Yep.

 

[Younigue]

For the right price, Trump is whatever you want him to be, baby.

And the right compliment.

 

[zinfamous]

And the right compliment.

He's rather cheap like that.

 

[Fern]

So there's nothing ideological about the tax cuts, the way the Interior Dept is being run or the scraping of the bottom of the barrel for toady judicial picks?

Or offering citizenship to 1.8 million or proposing to take away guns now and offering Due Process later.

I see no ideology, just a disparate amalgam of proposed solutions.

Fern

 

[unseenmorbidity]

Or offering citizenship to 1.8 million or proposing to take away guns now and offering Due Process later.

I see no ideology, just a disparate amalgam of proposed solutions.

Fern

Claiming he isn't a republican just helps the right wing republicans.

You might want to rethink your strat dems.

edit: My bad... The DNC's strat isn't to stop republicans. That's right.

 

[Stokely]

With that, I agree.

Tie the GOP to Trump in each and every way possible. It isn't difficult to do. Ignore the feeble bleats by Ryan and Graham et al and pay attention to what they actually *do*. McCain had one moment in the sun over the health care bill (and then promptly fled under a rock for the rich guy windall bill--err, "tax reform", sorry). They will try to have it both ways--look like they oppose Trump while continuing to actually support him. Don't let them.

They may swim with Trump (I think there are enough mouthbreathers in this country to make it happen) or they may sink. I'm hoping for sink and will do what little I'm able to help it along.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Or offering citizenship to 1.8 million or proposing to take away guns now and offering Due Process later.

I see no ideology, just a disparate amalgam of proposed solutions.

Fern

I'm a Republican and i've always opposed free trade. The Republican tent is a very large tent with many disparate views. Problem solving is one of them.

 

[nickqt]

I'm a Republican and i've always opposed free trade. The Republican tent is a very large tent with many disparate views. Problem solving is one of them.

Now that's funny!

+1

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Now that's funny!

+1

You didn't click [like] How can i trust you?

 

[fskimospy]

Or offering citizenship to 1.8 million or proposing to take away guns now and offering Due Process later.

I see no ideology, just a disparate amalgam of proposed solutions.

Fern

Why don’t we measure him by his actions rather than what he says as we all know he is a pathological liar.

Can you list actions he’s taken as president that don’t fall on the side of hard right orthodoxy? Not what he’s said, what he’s done.

 

[Fern]

Why don’t we measure him by his actions rather than what he says as we all know he is a pathological liar.

Can you list actions he’s taken as president that don’t fall on the side of hard right orthodoxy? Not what he’s said, what he’s done.

I don't think that's a reasonable benchmark. Congress is controlled by the repubs, so every bill he signs is run through a repub 'filter'. Furthermore, this situation is exacerbated by the stance Schumer and Pelosi have adopted.

Fern

 

[unseenmorbidity]

I don't think that's a reasonable benchmark. Congress is controlled by the repubs, so every bill he signs is run through a repub 'filter'. Furthermore, this situation is exacerbated by the stance Schumer and Pelosi have adopted.

Fern

They didn't adopt anything; they were always corrupt douchebags looking out for their donors.

There is one party people, wake the fuck up.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Or offering citizenship to 1.8 million or proposing to take away guns now and offering Due Process later.

I see no ideology, just a disparate amalgam of proposed solutions.

Fern

Don't mind Trump's oral diarrhea, his team will clean up and get him back on track.

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't think that's a reasonable benchmark. Congress is controlled by the repubs, so every bill he signs is run through a repub 'filter'. Furthermore, this situation is exacerbated by the stance Schumer and Pelosi have adopted.

Fern

That's inane. His cabinet picks & judicial appointments are as hard right as it gets. His dealings with the Dreamers & Salvadoran refugees are the same, not to mention his concepts of law enforcement & past association with White Supremacists like Bannon. Don't forget Stephen Miller, either.

Of course he's a fucking Republican. Only the base of that Party is delusional enough to think he might not be.

 

[Fern]

Cabinet picks and judicial appointments also come through the Repubs. Also, I don't think Bannon is a Repub. There seems to be a lot of animosity between Bannon and the Repubs.

I think you're confusing several different concepts and rolling them up into "Republican".

Fern

 

[UglyCasanova]

Republicans clearly go too far in the other direction; they treat you like a lower form of life if you're anything but a white, Christian, straight, cisgender man.

See I get that it’s the cool thing to say, but the reality is far different. What if I said Democrats treat you like a lower life form unless you are black or hispanic? When you throw things like that out there how could one take the rest of your post seriously?