Is video card sagging a common problem?

bgc99

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I was thinking of getting an Asus gtx 770, but I saw a few references to the card sagging when installed. Is this a common problem with the current crop of higher end cards with larger coolers or is it an Asus problem or just this card?

I don't recall seeing this mentioned in any reviews, but I think most reviewers use test beds that don't replicate the way the cards are actually mounted in a case.

Thanks,
BGC
 

Bateluer

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Yes, its a common problem with most cards that have large, heavy, multi slot coolers. My Asus DCU2 290X actually has a metal plate on the rear of the card to prevent sag.
 

motsm

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It's common, but I have never heard of any problems arising from it, so I wouldn't worry about it unless it bugs you aesthetically.
 

MongGrel

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Yeah, my 280X DCUII TOP does it, it a little.

You can do things to prop them up various ways, if it bugs you.

Just make sure whatever you do isn't conductive I imagine.

I've cut an art eraser down to a proper height and just stuck it in some before over the years to prop some up, or some tie wraps strategically placed.


It's not an Asus thing, I've had many others over the years.
 
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bgc99

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Thanks, I've never installed a card in this size range before so just wanted to know what to expect.

BGC
 

bononos

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I was thinking of getting an Asus gtx 770, but I saw a few references to the card sagging when installed. Is this a common problem with the current crop of higher end cards with larger coolers or is it an Asus problem or just this card?

I don't recall seeing this mentioned in any reviews, but I think most reviewers use test beds that don't replicate the way the cards are actually mounted in a case.

Thanks,
BGC

Most reviews ignore or gloss over that problem. DIY solutions would be cutting something like a piece of wood/plastic to size to prop up the card w/tape or using a rubber band like a sling.

More professional solutions would be the powerjack or built in braces on high end cases.
 

eno

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Never understood why zip ties aren't mentioned. I just installed my MK-26 w/ dual 120mm Corsair SP onto my reference 290 and like on my 6970 this 4slot cooler has serious sag issues. Simply get creative with a couple zip ties. I used a 120mm fan hole closest to my MB and ran it from the bottom of the fan so the head of the zip tie is under the fan supporting it. Then ran this through a opening in my case and slide another zip tie behind the case to lock it. Then simply propped up my card by hand and pulled in the slack on the zip tie. Barely can see it and fully supported on this massive 4 slot cooler. Just make sure to NOT over tighten, simply take off most of the sag. Good luck, I always support heavy hardware and generally can find a good secure way using zip ties.
 

psolord

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Well, since English is not my primary language, I thought that the verb used on the title was the same as shagging and was like wtf?

I mean I love my graphics cards, that's why I have six of them, but not THAT much, lol!
 

vbuggy

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Zip tie still doesn't prevent some sag though. Never knew about the Power Jack, is there anything like it for 2/3/4 SLI setups?
 

Leyawiin

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I've got and ASUS GTX 670 2GB DirectCU II that's two years old. I've noticed no sagging (it has a backplate). I recently bought a Gigabyte Windforce GTX 770 4GB. While it doesn't have a backplate it does have a metal brace that runs along the top edge for support. I've check it a few times - seems very sturdy and stable on the motherboard. The only video card I've ever own that had noticeable sagging was an 8800 GTX that I put an Arctic Cooling Accelero 8800 on. Didn't suffer any ill effects from it (still own it - still runs).
 

Micrornd

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Those of us that have been around a long time remember that "old school" server pedestal (and rack) cases had what were called "card guides" that supported and separated the long cards, so that they did not sag and kept a uniform space between them (allowing cables to be connected to the cards without interference), and made sure the older, thicker cards did not touch ).

The better of these guides covered all the slots in the case and had adjustable "fingers" (not all cards were the same height) that held the ends of the cards.

The old 10.5u pedestal/rack case I use for my workstation is set up this way.
The card guide covers all 9 slots, is attached to the removable motherboard tray itself (thus supporting the cards in any position during assembly), and the plastic (non-conductive) guide fingers have almost 1.5" of adjustment (works for the tallest or shortest (LP) cards) and fit over the circuit boards of my 7970s at the far (power connector) end of the cards.

I couldn't find an exact picture of an example, but these will give you an idea -
http://www.plinkusa.net/products/4088-20.jpg
http://images.highspeedbackbone.net/itemDetails/Vision/callouts/V133-2064-out-la.jpg

In my case the motherboard tray has multiple tapped holes allowing the card guide to be moved over half the length of the card (front to back, thus allowing for best positioning).
And while the fingers in the above pictures are dependent on "spring pressure", those in my case are attached to the side of the bracket with a machine screw and the fingers are slotted for vertical adjustment, positively keeping the card in it's proper position in the slot regardless of the position of the MB tray.

If I didn't have this case with card guide, I'd use a thin piece of Al. angle for a bracket and some thin plexi/poly for fingers and fab a card guide.

With all the case modding that goes on, you'd think someone would make a "universal fit" version of those "old school" card guides :whiste:
 

bgc99

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I've got and ASUS GTX 670 2GB DirectCU II that's two years old. I've noticed no sagging (it has a backplate).

I found a review that showed the 770 also has a backplate to "prevent flexing and sagging". The comments I saw about it before linked to an article that showed pictures of a build using the 770. One of the comments in that article was "Is it just me, or is that video card sagging"? So even with the backplate at least some of them seem to be sagging, maybe just luck of the draw.

I can't recall where I saw the original sagging article or I would link it.
 

vbuggy

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I've got and ASUS GTX 670 2GB DirectCU II that's two years old. I've noticed no sagging (it has a backplate).

Maybe the cards don't deform at the backplate itself as such, but even cards with backplates often don't sit straight in the case.

Besides, while the back may not droop on the DirectCu's the cooling parts do.

long bit of nostalgia

I might not look to replicate that, but I think in the light of no immediate choices I might print a card-crutch if I can be bothered. I'm not the guy who has his rig sitting up on the desk and I never buy a windowed case if I have the option, so it's something that only bothers me when I open up the system for any reason - but every time I do it does bother me that the SLI rigs aren't lined up.
 
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kasakka

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I've had ASUS DirectCu II equipped GPUs with and without a back plate (560 Ti, 660 Ti and now 2x770) and despite some minor sagging it has never been an issue. When you remove the card it straightens up just fine.
 

vbuggy

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As I wrote above that's not the main concern for me. In-rig droop just looks untidy.
 

UaVaj

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the issue is that newer breed of gpu are simply made with thinner and cheaper pcb.

had nvidia 500 series, 600 series, amd 7000 series. both reference coolers and aftermarket coolers. with back plate and without back plate. even with two pcie cable dragging it down a little. never sag what so ever.

recently switch to 4 asus 290x reference and 4 gigabyte 280x windforce.

290x has only been installed vertically so not sure yet.

280x are installed horizontally and are sagging bad (within 12 hours of install). apparently it still works. not sure about long term effect though. anyway - fixed with zip tie. the 280x happen to have hole dead center at the end of the pcb. a balanced spot and perfect for a zip tie. even the lian li pc-7h case had a hole dead center on the drive cage. like they both knew about this sag.
 

UaVaj

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if anyone has been using their gpu for months on end sagging.

please let us know if this sagging has affected performance or function.

please include make and model and how long.
 
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