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arrfep

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maybe the bread starts off 12 in going in the oven and then after it is baked it shranks?

Probably how it will be explained. Just like most any burger place will sell you a quarter pounder.*




*Weight of patty before cooking, when frozen.
 

SheHateMe

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Most of the footlongs ain't even $5 anymore.

Subway Club is $7

I downgraded to the Turkey and Black Forest Ham instead.
 

AmdEmAll

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I believe those sandwitches are getting more slender and therefore, lesser meat/goodies.

I just ate at McD earlier today and I believe the chicken sandwitch was smaller than it was before.

The mcflurrys prices keep going up and yet they get smaller. The douche bags don't even fill them to the top half the time.
 

BUTCH1

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The 25% decrease in meat portions is a joke, it's not like they were giving you very much before, what's that gonna mean, 3-slice turkey foot-longs?, fuck you Subway, no thanks cheap pricks..
 

SheHateMe

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The 25% decrease in meat portions is a joke, it's not like they were giving you very much before, what's that gonna mean, 3-slice turkey foot-longs?, fuck you Subway, no thanks cheap pricks..

I believe you get 4 pieces of meat. If you order something that has different types of meat, the first type of meat you get 4 and then 2 for everything else. Something like that.

It's a pattern that I've noticed.

They try to be slick. On the subway club, they fold the Roast Beef the long way and try to stretch those thin ass pieces across the bun and you only get two. But, when you get a regular roast beef sub they fold it the short way and you get 4.

pfft.
 

EliteRetard

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Wish I had the old sub-base here...that guy worked here like 14+ hrs a day 7 days a week for at least 16 years. Finally went out of business...but his subs were easily 5x the size of subway for the same price and used real ingredients bought daily/weekly. His full subs were always 13" (always made in halves, and made sure halves were ~6.5") and contained 1lb meat alone $5-10 (15 $5 options). Super-subs were almost twice as wide and 56" $30-40. I did lots of repairs for the place (and some remodeling and security etc), did some cleaning/delivery, and tried to refer customers and got most of my food for cheap/free. Real job was 2-12 (night shift), so I would go in for breakfast subs 8-9 and lunch 12-1 (and any lunch deliveries) then head to work. Usually ate there on the weekend too, and worked on the miscellaneous stuff then. I've only known the place since like 12 years ago (he was there for a few years before I found it)

Subway is pretty much garbage to me. Just a few weeks ago I took my sister to one after she had some stitches removed and we were both appalled at the quality and quantity of food for the money. Even the "fancy" sub places I've tried I recall being sub par...but that was compared to sub-base.

Sad thing is I can't even get the same quality of ingredients as sub-base used, I know where he got most of his stuff...but they are like high end restaurant only places or sell in bulk sizes to large for me to utilize. Would also need all the tools he had, slicers and ovens, and induction cook tops. If I wanted one great sandwich there's no way for me to make one.

Like where can I go to get a sandwich made of marinated slow roasted beef sliced and pan fried with onions/seasonings when you order? That's not fake, from frozen, precooked, and nasty (full of fat and cartilage)? For the $10 full on beef sammic he probably spent $5 on the beef and $2 on the other ingredients. Could make it a cheese steak, an au-jus, add real fresh cooked bacon or whatever.

His turkey was the only thing that was sorta fake, somehow it was formed into a loaf type thing, but it was still real meat looking inside (fibrous?), not the smooth consistent taste-less texture-less pink of the fake stuff. Actually he had that nasty bologna too...Chicken was actual chicken breast pieces marinated/oven cooked. He would serve a whole breast per "half" sub. Either as the whole breast or he could slice it into strips. MMMmmm meat.

Real cheeses too, provolone, cheddar, swiss, pepperjack, etc he did have the fake american type cheese and some other different tasting white version. Even had his own veggie burger type thing or regular old salad in a sandwich for those vegans. Ham salami pepperoni...hand made teriyaki sauce and meatballs...the breakfast subs with egg and such...man I'm hungry now.

He went out of business just after I left for Japan in June 2012 (didn't know until I came back 3 months later). Over the last decade the whole area turned into the ghetto though, lots of foreigners and gangsters moved in and businesses closed up. He was down to having days with less than 10 customers before I left. I haven't had a good sandwich since then. I'm definitely missing it.
 
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SP33Demon

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Bread compresses, imagine that.

Then the bread should be made larger to compensate. And the cold cuts restored to their original size.

This is the problem with corporate capitalism, eventually the collective greed takes over and product gets shitty as corporations try to increase the bottom line for shareholders. Subway is no different than American chocolate [or any other product that used to be good but now sucks] quality suffering, or outsourcing to China for tools which used to last. It's all about that bottom line, these companies are never happy with making 100 million in profit unless they're making 200 the next year. This is a byproduct of that mentality.
 
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EliteRetard

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What's scary is I just ordered from Monoprice. How can they still be in business, speak english, offer good customer support and still sell that top quality $1k silver HDMI cable for $20?

Its almost as if doing the right thing, charging a fair price, and offering good service while building up a loyal customer base can be profitable. UNIMAGINABLE!
 

StrangerGuy

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Then the bread should be made larger to compensate. And the cold cuts restored to their original size.

This is the problem with corporate capitalism, eventually the collective greed takes over and product gets shitty as corporations try to increase the bottom line for shareholders. Subway is no different than American chocolate [or any other product that used to be good but now sucks] quality suffering, or outsourcing to China for tools which used to last. It's all about that bottom line, these companies are never happy with making 100 million in profit unless they're making 200 the next year. This is a byproduct of that mentality.

The stupid obsession over growth is gonna doom us all where maintaining a tidy profit means you are in a financially bad shape because that didn't grow. What kind of shit mentality is that?
 

techs

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The stupid obsession over growth is gonna doom us all where maintaining a tidy profit means you are in a financially bad shape because that didn't grow. What kind of shit mentality is that?

Yep, its that kind of thinking that gave us bandwith caps.
 

SP33Demon

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The stupid obsession over growth is gonna doom us all where maintaining a tidy profit means you are in a financially bad shape because that didn't grow. What kind of shit mentality is that?

Agreed (<---see what I did there?). All in all, private companies don't have the pressure to keep increasing shareholders at a pace that forces the product to suffer at customers' expense. So I'll try to patronize local businesses over public chains as long as the quality is there. They are happy with making 50K profit a year and not trying to double it the next year while screwing their customers.
 

darkewaffle

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Then the bread should be made larger to compensate. And the cold cuts restored to their original size.

It's no different than product bags stating "sold by weight, not by volume" or having disclaimers that "product may settle". You can't account for what is essentially entropy, if you make a hundred loaves of bread with the same ingredients and equipment, they're still going to come out slightly differently.
 

SP33Demon

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It's no different than product bags stating "sold by weight, not by volume" or having disclaimers that "product may settle". You can't account for what is essentially entropy, if you make a hundred loaves of bread with the same ingredients and equipment, they're still going to come out slightly differently.

That's true, but if you read the article, the 11 inches is the norm... not the exception. There is no "product may settle" disclaimer (or "bread may shrink to less than a foot" asterisk). Don't say it's a footlong, trademark the slogan, and then give us less than a foot is the bottom line.
 

EliteRetard

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It's no different than product bags stating "sold by weight, not by volume" or having disclaimers that "product may settle". You can't account for what is essentially entropy, if you make a hundred loaves of bread with the same ingredients and equipment, they're still going to come out slightly differently.

Pretty sure subway doesn't sell by weight...

They'd have to get those fancy expensive scales that can accurately measure an once and a few tenths. Plus employees that could read said scales. Minimum wage wouldn't cover that, requires at least a bachelors degree.
 

Wonderful Pork

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Pretty sure subway doesn't sell by weight...

They'd have to get those fancy expensive scales that can accurately measure an once and a few tenths. Plus employees that could read said scales. Minimum wage wouldn't cover that, requires at least a bachelors degree.

I believe that subway pre-portions the meat and sends it to the stores. I know its at least pre-cut. I used to work at quiznos and we'd have to cut the meats, cheeses, and veggies ourselves (this was 8 years back) and weigh the ingredients while making the sandwich. But Quiznos was always way more expensive than Subway, though they had better quality food IMHO (which I got for free!).
 

purbeast0

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The FDA standard is 2000 calories a day. That's low for many people, especially if they are active. If you're like me and don't eat breakfast, a 500-calorie lunch ain't gonna cut it.

Everyone freaks out over 1000-calorie offerings at fast food places, but unless you're eating something like that three times a day and not getting any exercise, it's really not that big a deal.

yea, 2000 calories ain't shit for most grown adults. and just having a stupid broad general "2000 calories" a day is retarded when you have grown adults that weigh 120lbs and some that weigh 220lbs, neither of which could have hardly any fat on them at all and be extremely healthy.
 

rstove02

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Worked at Subway over 15 years ago. The main reason of shorter subs is not post baking compression (if it does get compressed it wont be at the ends, it will become flatter).

What happens is the bread dough sticks come in frozen in boxes. The frozen dough sticks are usually 11-12 inches, but you can get them as short as 9. What is supposed to be done is the employee is supposed to stretch the thawed sticks to proper pan width (12") before placing them in the proofer (high humidity warmer) to rise the bread before baking.

If they miss a stick (or more aptly the do not bother stretching them) you gonna get short subs.
 

purbeast0

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The 25% decrease in meat portions is a joke, it's not like they were giving you very much before, what's that gonna mean, 3-slice turkey foot-longs?, fuck you Subway, no thanks cheap pricks..

i went to subway 2 days ago and didn't have any decrease in meat. i think the one posted in this thread was that franchise only.
 

Squisher

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Baking ain't always perfect. Although, in a commercial setting you are constantly trying to make adjustments to the process so that the final product is within acceptable limits.

I wonder if 11" is within Subway's vision of small-acceptable? It's probably pretty close.
 
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