ISIS Beheads 21 Egyptian Christians On Video

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gdansk

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Imagine being the Copts. Only people who can understand the linguistic remnants of old Egyptian. Some of the earliest practitioners of an Abrahamic religion in Egypt. Explicitly protected from conversion by sword in the Quran. Beheaded for apostasy by zealots who evidently don't want to listen to Muhammad.

No wonder their numbers decrease each year. I hope Sisi can eliminate ISIS as a factor in Libya and Sinai.
 

Pocatello

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They're competing with each other for new fighters and money. The ISIS group in Libya want to show they are just as brutal or more so than the group in Syria. A lot of young people in the West are drawn to this type of brutality. If they can't go fight in distant land, then they do it in their homeland.
 

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3 people die over a parking dispute that may or may not have had religious intolerance mixed in, and even if it did, the killer seemed to hate all organized religions in general.

Result = Outcry in Muslim communities worldwide.

21 Coptic Christians die in a blatantly religiously motivated group. You can argue about whether the group was misguided or not, but the fact is that religion is DEFINITELY part of the motive of the group.

Result = ??? in Muslim communities worldwide.
 

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This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy against spam, scams, and commercially deceptive content." What gives?
 

nickqt

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3 people die over a parking dispute that may or may not have had religious intolerance mixed in, and even if it did, the killer seemed to hate all organized religions in general.

Result = Outcry in Muslim communities worldwide.

21 Coptic Christians die in a blatantly religiously motivated group. You can argue about whether the group was misguided or not, but the fact is that religion is DEFINITELY part of the motive of the group.

Result = ??? in Muslim communities worldwide.

Are you implying that Muslim communities don't care, or are celebrating?

You do realize that there are plenty of online newspapers of foreign countries, in English, that you can visit to see if the story is reported, to see how it is reported, and some even have comments.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/839084/...ed-in-libya-after-islamic-state-issues-video/

http://tribune.com.pk/story/839085/saudi-arabia-condemns-copenhagen-chapel-hill-attacks/

http://tribune.com.pk/story/839042/suspected-copenhagen-gunman-identified-as-ex-con-omar-el-hussein/

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/02/12/jokowi-calls-tolerance-over-extremism.html

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...rts-show-is-militants-beheading-hostages.html

There are lots of people who want you to believe that the majority of Muslims hate Amurica because of our freedoms and shopping malls, but most Muslims aren't out killing, aren't out supporting it, or applauding it in the streets.

I'm not sure why every Muslim is supposed to write a letter to US newspapers condemning every act of terrorism. All Americans aren't writing letters to their local newspaper condemning the droning of wedding parties, or cops shooting people to death. Should I assume that all Americans support those actions?
 

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Oh this is disgusting.I bet the Egyptian people do not put up with this.
They already have over 500 terrorists ready to execute.
I'm liking the stance Egypt is taking nowadays.It seems they're standing for what's right,IMO.
OK so now ISIS has Jordan AND Egypt on them..
NSF--anything.
http://dd.dmz.se/misc/d/~lol/isis/isis_new_vid.mp4
 
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Genx87

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Toppling Gadaffi is proving to be a sound policy decision. So lets topple Syria. What could go wrong?
 

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I remember in 2011, when the uprising was really gathering steam and Obama was threatening to depose Bashar al Assad, there was this kid on my FB feed who was always posting stuff in support of the Revolution. A white kid, Jewish no less... and I asked him why he supported the Rebels. His reasoning was basically that he had read about Hama and watched a bunch of news reports on how awful Bashar was. I got into several arguments with this kid, because my position at the time was that we had no business messing with Syria one way or another. I wonder what his opinion is now?

The rebels wanted to impose Sharia law from the start, they made no bones about it. And they got more and more extreme as time went by. Now they are clearly totally desperate to strike some blow against the west. I wonder when they will attack that Marine base? It would seem to me to be suicide, but they seem ok with that, I guess.


If I was ISIS, I would not attack the marines directly. I would do some kind of diversionary attack and then ambush them with IEDs as they moved to intercept that attack, and if they can get their fighters within 50M of the Marines it will be very hard to call air support. They really can't win this any other way.
 

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US need to stop toppling..
Worry about what's going on in the US..
you know..tons of illegal immigration..people don't have jobs..ISIS could filter in easily...
US doesn't doesn't produce the goods they use..as a byproduct people don't have jobs..Too many politicians leeching off of the people that pay taxes..
things like that.

I vote for putting on a swine drive where ISIS is
100,000 pigs.
 

senseamp

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Sympathize. But we give enough Egypt enough military aid to deal with this kind of sh!t without looping us in, so we can focus on our own problems and not ISIS attention whoring.
 

schmuckley

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Sympathize. But we give enough Egypt enough military aid to deal with this kind of sh!t without looping us in, so we can focus on our own problems and not ISIS attention whoring.

I like this.
Obama will never do it, though
Please make me eat those words.
I would seriously love to at this point.
 

Nebor

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If I was ISIS, I would not attack the marines directly. I would do some kind of diversionary attack and then ambush them with IEDs as they moved to intercept that attack, and if they can get their fighters within 50M of the Marines it will be very hard to call air support. They really can't win this any other way.

They can't win it that way either.
 

senseamp

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I like this.
Obama will never do it, though
Please make me eat those words.
I would seriously love to at this point.

It's SISI v ISIS as far as Egyptians are concerned.
Not Obama's fight. But the US media is going to be asking why Obama isn't doing anything about it, because the expectation is that US is world police and any bad stuff that happens in the world is because Obama let it happen.
 

schmuckley

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The thing is..US could do something about it.
This IS a job for snipers.
Our dear leader is not inclined to do so.
He advocates the spread of Islam.
I sincerely hope Egypt lays the smack down on them.
Surely they could hire some mercenaries or something.
 
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oobydoobydoo

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They can't win it that way either.

You are in the military, the US military. You know as well as I that our forces aren't invincible. You have superior training, tactics, and weapons... but that does not necessarily mean they can't win a battle.


Now, certainly, they would all be killed one way or another (by more Americans coming to their rescue by air and probably land too). I just mean the initial attack could be very successful. This is ISIL, not "ISIS" .... they are the top notch fighters for the islamic state. They are former Al Queda...



Not saying it's likely, but it's possible.
 

schmuckley

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Dang Islam spreading Christian that he is. He probably sleeps with the Koran under his pillow at night.

Have you seen him make a political move that indicates he's a christian?

Has he made political moves in favor of Islam?

Does Egypt,an Islamic nation, claim he is high up in the Muslim Brotherhood?

Yes they do.

(Matthew 12:33-37; Luke 6:43-45)
15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 

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Have you seen him make a political move that indicates he's a christian?

Has he made political moves in favor of Islam?

Does Egypt,an Islamic nation, claim he is high up in the Muslim Brotherhood?

Yes they do.

Not this shit again.

But thank you for self identifying your insanity.
 

OutHouse

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Are you implying that Muslim communities don't care, or are celebrating?

You do realize that there are plenty of online newspapers of foreign countries, in English, that you can visit to see if the story is reported, to see how it is reported, and some even have comments.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/839084/...ed-in-libya-after-islamic-state-issues-video/

http://tribune.com.pk/story/839085/saudi-arabia-condemns-copenhagen-chapel-hill-attacks/

http://tribune.com.pk/story/839042/suspected-copenhagen-gunman-identified-as-ex-con-omar-el-hussein/

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/02/12/jokowi-calls-tolerance-over-extremism.html

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...rts-show-is-militants-beheading-hostages.html

There are lots of people who want you to believe that the majority of Muslims hate Amurica because of our freedoms and shopping malls, but most Muslims aren't out killing, aren't out supporting it, or applauding it in the streets.

I'm not sure why every Muslim is supposed to write a letter to US newspapers condemning every act of terrorism. All Americans aren't writing letters to their local newspaper condemning the droning of wedding parties, or cops shooting people to death. Should I assume that all Americans support those actions?

do you have the ISIS flag hanging on your wall? i bet you do.
 
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