Simple: When they come rolling into towns, their enemies desert and run away. Nobody wants to be in the next video. That strategy is working very well in Iraq.
Why the propaganda?What does ISIS stand to gain from all that gruesome circus in HD?Why all videos in which ISIS show themselves as the devil incarnate?
Simple: When they come rolling into towns, their enemies desert and run away. Nobody wants to be in the next video. That strategy is working very well in Iraq.
Why the propaganda?What does ISIS stand to gain from all that gruesome circus in HD?Why all videos in which ISIS show themselves as the devil incarnate?
Given their track record with american prisoners....
Why the propaganda?What does ISIS stand to gain from all that gruesome circus in HD?Why all videos in which ISIS show themselves as the devil incarnate?
Only that they kill everyone,combatant or not.Cruelty will only make the other guy fight harder.
Didn't Jordan say they were going to hang every ISIS prisoner if anything happened to their pilot?
I look forward to the hangings then.
I heard that as well.
IIRC, just prior to the Thursday deadline Jordan demanded to see the pilot before releasing the woman. ISIS then went suddenly silent. Then Jordan made that threat. Since ISIS appeared to be getting what they wanted, the woman, I figured that they F'd up and had already killed pilot. I was half expecting them to remain silent. I guess the Jordan intel agency found out and ISIS didn't have much choice.
Fern
I heard that as well.
IIRC, just prior to the Thursday deadline Jordan demanded to see the pilot before releasing the woman. ISIS then went suddenly silent. Then Jordan made that threat. Since ISIS appeared to be getting what they wanted, the woman, I figured that they F'd up and had already killed pilot. I was half expecting them to remain silent. I guess the Jordan intel agency found out and ISIS didn't have much choice.
Fern
If I were an American bomber pilot I'd probably develop a sudden case of acute blindness if asked to fly over ISIS territory. Best leave this one to the drones.
It isn't worth a drop of American blood. As much as I hate these animals and would love to see them wiped off the face of the earth, let someone else deal with them.
At what point, if ever, in your opinion does it become "worth a drop of American blood"?
Sure they will, while talking out of the other side of their mouths and claiming the US "forced them into action" to quell the cries of their internal radicals.ISIS is expanding its reach from what I read (I'm thinking of Congressional testimony by top military intel officer yesterday). They have a growing presence in the Maghreb (Libya, Algeria etc) and Saudi Arabia and other countries.
S.A and Jordan are said to be the only countries that can counter them, but it's also said they aren't going to do much, if anything, without us. Sounds like if we're not going to act, no one else will either.
Everybody knows ISIS wants to establish a Pan Arab (Islamic) state. How far do we let them go before we act? They're in the area where more than 50%
These thugs and barbarians do not conform to the niceties of diplomacy or negotiation. If you're going to take them on, the gloves have to come off and you need to annhilate them in clear, decisive strikes with absolutely nothing held back. I've advocated the use of tactical nuclear weapons against ISIS on this very forum and I still believe that's an option if it comes down to it. However, I am not willing to risk American lives in another quagmire when the regional powers there should be taking care of it. If they're too weak-willed to take the necessary action, well, I guess they'd better brush up on Sharia law.They're financing themselves with oil money (also bank robbery and taxing locals). They're presently battling for Kirkuk, a major oil production area controlled by the Kurds in Northern Iraq.
Do we sit by while they expand to control all the oil over there? What would be the consequences of that?
If you don't like the sound of that, well better figure out when we'll move to prevent it because the longer we wait the stronger they'll be and the more blood and treasure it'll take to stop 'em.
The above is about territory, oil and the world's economy. But ISIS, along with AQ and the Taliban are Sunni. They want to wipe out the Shia and all other religious minorities. Who wants to watch that? Who wants a metric crap ton of penniless refugees flowing to the rest of the world?
I don't think Obama is going to do anything (plus he seems fond of the Muslim Brotherhood who are Sunni), so for the next two years it will be interesting to see how far ISIS/AQ/Taliban gets.
Fern
Exactly this. I don't need it.i refuse to watch a human being burned to death. i do not want that image in my head.
At what point, if ever, in your opinion does it become "worth a drop of American blood"?
ISIS is expanding its reach from what I read (I'm thinking of Congressional testimony by top military intel officer yesterday). They have a growing presence in the Maghreb (Libya, Algeria etc) and Saudi Arabia and other countries.
S.A and Jordan are said to be the only countries that can counter them, but it's also said they aren't going to do much, if anything, without us. Sounds like if we're not going to act, no one else will either.
Everybody knows ISIS wants to establish a Pan Arab (Islamic) state. How far do we let them go before we act? They're in the area where more than 50% of world's proven oil reserves exist. They're financing themselves with oil money (also bank robbery and taxing locals). They're presently battling for Kirkuk, a major oil production area controlled by the Kurds in Northern Iraq.
Do we sit by while they expand to control all the oil over there? What would be the consequences of that?
If you don't like the sound of that, well better figure out when we'll move to prevent it because the longer we wait the stronger they'll be and the more blood and treasure it'll take to stop 'em.
The above is about territory, oil and the world's economy. But ISIS, along with AQ and the Taliban are Sunni. They want to wipe out the Shia and all other religious minorities. Who wants to watch that? Who wants a metric crap ton of penniless refugees flowing to the rest of the world?
I don't think Obama is going to do anything (plus he seems fond of the Muslim Brotherhood who are Sunni), so for the next two years it will be interesting to see how far ISIS/AQ/Taliban gets.
Fern
+1I refuse to watch too, not because of the image in my head, but because they made the video to be watched.
We went in with the same bs reasons into Iraq and it got us absolutely nothing. How exactly do you think we will pay for this excursion? Other continuing more drone strikes I don't think we should do anything.
Yeah the policy of appeasement works so well. Just ask Neville Chamberlain. To take the isolationist view to the extreme, even if ISIL takes over the entire former Ottoman Empire and then some, and charges $500/barrel for oil, trade in slaves, etc. you'd do nothing.
That bumbling "let's get out of there ASAP" mentality is what helped ISIL grow so big. Never should have invaded in 2003 in the first place, true. But leaving too soon, before Iraq was ready to handle the ball, was part of the reason why the ball was dropped so badly. Some problems need to be stopped while they are small, before they mushroom. Cancer and ISIL (another kind of cancer) are examples.