Isn't it easy to cheat on online poker?

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Wasn't there a thread about some kid who lived off of cheating at online poker like this. I remember a pic of some guy in his underwear sitting at a desk with a bunch of monitors.

i think i remember the picture but i don't recall him being a cheater unless it was a different thread

the one i am remembering was posted by warcrow i think

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: mchammer187

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Wasn't there a thread about some kid who lived off of cheating at online poker like this. I remember a pic of some guy in his underwear sitting at a desk with a bunch of monitors.

i think i remember the picture but i don't recall him being a cheater unless it was a different thread

the one i am remembering was posted by warcrow i think

Perhaps it was just someone multi-tabling? I remember a picture of someone playing 8 or 12 tables at a time. If you can do that well, then there is no reason to cheat.

 

[Yax]

You don't need to subscribe to 3 isps. Just create 3 or more accounts with different addresses. They never check source IPs on those sites.

 

[dxkj]

Originally posted by: Frost Byte
1. Subscribe to multiple ISPs with different unique IP addresses.
2. All get into same table.
3. Profit!

There's virtually no way to combat this?

No, its called collusion... Think about it ~!!! its NOT COMPLICATED



If they see the same 3 players share the same tables, on more than a random occurance, they note it and come and break your kneecaps.... you think i am joking!

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Yax
You don't need to subscribe to 3 isps. Just create 3 or more accounts with different addresses. They never check source IPs on those sites.

Do you mean different physical addresses (city, state..etc)? If that's what you mean, then you are wrong. They don't let you join a table with the same IP at reputable poker sites.

 

[amoeba]

its much tougher to collude than people make it out to be.

Often the effort just isn't worth the result. you'll do much better at low limits having 5 fishy players and you vs you and a colluder vs 4 fishy players.

if you ever step in to a game thats 1000 buyin or more though, I would watch out for colluders.

that said, this is why showdown history is kept for mucks as questionable laydowns and questionable chipfeeding can be caught.

The bigger problem at online poker is disconnect protect abuse.

 

[Yax]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Yax
You don't need to subscribe to 3 isps. Just create 3 or more accounts with different addresses. They never check source IPs on those sites.

Do you mean different physical addresses (city, state..etc)? If that's what you mean, then you are wrong. They don't let you join a table with the same IP at reputable poker sites.

Not true. Try it on big sites like pstars and UB and see for yourself.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Yax
Not true. Try it on big sites like pstars and UB and see for yourself.

I usually play at Pokerroom and they don't allow this. I was not able to play at the same tables as my GF under the same IP. Have you tried it with real money and also tried to join the same table?

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: amoeba
its much tougher to collude than people make it out to be.

Often the effort just isn't worth the result. you'll do much better at low limits having 5 fishy players and you vs you and a colluder vs 4 fishy players.

if you ever step in to a game thats 1000 buyin or more though, I would watch out for colluders.

that said, this is why showdown history is kept for mucks as questionable laydowns and questionable chipfeeding can be caught.

The bigger problem at online poker is disconnect protect abuse.

disconnect = fold at paradise

one of the main reasons i still play there even though there is no raketracker through them

 

[Shlong]

I suppose Ventrilo would be handy tool for something like this with a bunch of friends. But I never play poker, in college used to go to a friends house to play a lot though.

 

[sundev]

Originally posted by: Yax
You don't need to subscribe to 3 isps. Just create 3 or more accounts with different addresses. They never check source IPs on those sites.

They don't need to check source IPs, they just check usernames. If the same users are always playing together, they know something is wrong (someone said this already in this thread). So you can't just keep having the same 4 users (or whatever) playing together all the time.

So, you can collude maybe once or twice. But after that you risk being caught.

 

[Yax]

Originally posted by: sundevb

Originally posted by: Yax
You don't need to subscribe to 3 isps. Just create 3 or more accounts with different addresses. They never check source IPs on those sites.

They don't need to check source IPs, they just check usernames. If the same users are always playing together, they know something is wrong (someone said this already in this thread). So you can't just keep having the same 4 users (or whatever) playing together all the time.

So, you can collude maybe once or twice. But after that you risk being caught.

And what could they do if they actually find out, not let you play there no more? Big deal.

Anyway, why would they care when there's thousands of players?

 

[ShowdOWN]

cheaters never win.

 

[V00DOO]

Originally posted by: Yax

Originally posted by: sundevb

Originally posted by: Yax
You don't need to subscribe to 3 isps. Just create 3 or more accounts with different addresses. They never check source IPs on those sites.

They don't need to check source IPs, they just check usernames. If the same users are always playing together, they know something is wrong (someone said this already in this thread). So you can't just keep having the same 4 users (or whatever) playing together all the time.

So, you can collude maybe once or twice. But after that you risk being caught.

And what could they do if they actually find out, not let you play there no more? Big deal.

Anyway, why would they care when there's thousands of players?

Just curious, could they seize your money if they catch you colluding?

 

[theGlove]

Originally posted by: Josh
A good poker player will destroy multiple people working together, in some ways it can hurt your chances extremely.

this is true but I've seen so many times on how lousy players get the lucky draw on the river

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Yax

Originally posted by: sundevb

Originally posted by: Yax
You don't need to subscribe to 3 isps. Just create 3 or more accounts with different addresses. They never check source IPs on those sites.

They don't need to check source IPs, they just check usernames. If the same users are always playing together, they know something is wrong (someone said this already in this thread). So you can't just keep having the same 4 users (or whatever) playing together all the time.

So, you can collude maybe once or twice. But after that you risk being caught.

And what could they do if they actually find out, not let you play there no more? Big deal.

Anyway, why would they care when there's thousands of players?

If they don't let you play anymore your colluding is over? For the time/effort it would take the money you could possibly gain it would not be worth it for reasons specified above

 

[MrBond]

Just curious, could they seize your money if they catch you colluding?

It's probably in the TOS that they can.

I knew a couple guys who would get together in the computer labs at school, get drunk (drinking rum+coke premixed in a bottle), and play poker together online. They did it almost every week too (we'd be in the computer lab almost every Thursday night one semester working on lab since we put it off so long and it was due the next day)

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: theGlove

Originally posted by: Josh
A good poker player will destroy multiple people working together, in some ways it can hurt your chances extremely.

this is true but I've seen so many times on how lousy players get the lucky draw on the river

That's the whole point of hold-em. Think about it. If lousy players never won, then they would be out of money quickly and most likely find another game to play. Hold-em is the best kind of poker to play if you are lousy. A lousy player gets his ass handed to him much more quickly in stud for instance.

Either way, getting upset b/c a lousy player wins occasionally on a poor play is like a casino getting upset b/c someone hit a million dollar slot jackpot. If either never happened, there would be no game in the first place.