Israel getting what it deserves

[IGBT]

So the HolyWood idiots and the last "bastion of communism", academia, are turning their backs. What next? Their "global warming" membership will be cancelled??

 

[Visa2]

Stop blaming the others if you don?t know the Palestinian story. It started from 1948, England and the other western countries started to help the Zionist movement to help Them conquer Palestine and to kick the Arabs from Palestine by force. And they Succeed in that and they form ?ISRAEL? ?? And the whole western world which believes In democracy and human rights recognize it as a country???????????

 

[datalink7]

But killing civilians is wrong, killing is NEVER, NEVER justified.

Taking this statement completely out of context, I would say that killing can be justified. It is never a "good" thing, but there can be justification for it.

I don't know if there are any absolutes in this world, so I would never say "never" or "always."

 

[rendicil]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: rendicil

Originally posted by: SnapIT


Another poster who hasn't read the thread at all... and obviously knows very little about the bombing...

NOBODY here disputes that Palestinian terrorists have killed children, NOBODY here says anything else than that it is horrible... BUT, it is just as horrible when the Israelis do the same thing...

And if you knew anything about the actual bombing, you would know that the people injured weren't just his family and that the bombing of civilians alongside with the Hamasleader was intentional...

You totally misunderstood my point. I lived in Israel for a while and I know plenty about the bombings... A couple of my friends were actually killed.... anyway... I was trying to say that Sharon is trying to prove a point to the palestinian terrorists that you can't just hide behind your family because we will not hesitate to make the israeli people safe. There are always people minding there own business (young and old) who are caught in the crossfire between the two nations (hell it happens here in the US too... look at gang wars in LA). And one of the most promising facts is that Palestinian people are starting to not harbor terrorists anymore for fear of what might now happen to there families. Any idiot terrorist out there who loves his/her family wouldn't hide behind them and would take what's coming to them. I mean they want to blow themselves up anyway... why take their families along with them?

And the palestinians are just blowing up a few civilians... so what? the palestinians were trying to prove a point, that you cannot hide behind your people (actually, not only the hamas family died in that bombing, a lot of others did too) because we will not hesitate to make the Palestinians safe. There are always people minding their own business (young and old) who are caught in the crossfier between the two nations (hell it happens her in Sweden too... look at the shadow wars in Stockholm). And one of the least promising facts is that the Israelis will not take one step back, instead they will continue their terrorism. Any idiot Israeli soldier out there who loves his/her family wouldn't hide behind them (i am sure nobody beyond the grade of sargant actually spends time with his family in the israely army) and if they should then they would take what's coming to them. i mean if they want to get praised in battle anyways, so why keep the families where they aren't safe?

And the palestinians are just blowing up a few civilians to kill who.... a few civilians... at least the israelis are trying to go after a known terrorist... I don't see the people eating at restaurants and going to nightclubs building bombs and going after innocent palestinians.

 

[Stark]

War is a limitation of vision, a form of mental illness.

But it is a reality of the human condition.

and it is also a reality. if we hadn't fought a war you would be either wearing a nazi arm band or dead already for your views.
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That was almost sixty years ago... and if the south would have won, black people would still be slaves in the US... your point is? were you in that war? were you even born?

What does that have to do with what is happening in Israel today? NADA, ZILCH, NOTHING...

Actually, it has a great deal to do with what is happening in Israel today. Israel was created after Europe nearly exterminated an entire race of people. It was from those ashes that Jews started flocking back to ancient Israel.

Stop blaming the others if you don?t know the Palestinian story. It started from 1948, England and the other western countries started to help the Zionist movement to help Them conquer Palestine and to kick the Arabs from Palestine by force. And they Succeed in that and they form ?ISRAEL? ?? And the whole western world which believes In democracy and human rights recognize it as a country???????????

And the zionists legally purchased the land from the owners (Ottomans). The Palestinians were land squatters who had no legal rights to the land on which they lived. England helped the zionists? You are not just a troll, but a very stupid one at that. Zionists started the suicide bombing trend AGAINST ENGLAND in an attempt to end British rule in Palestine.

 

[Stark]

And the palestinians are just blowing up a few civilians to kill who.... a few civilians... at least the israelis are trying to go after a known terrorist... I don't see the people eating at restaurants and going to nightclubs building bombs and going after innocent palestinians.

Exactly.

 

[Booster]

Originally posted by: Stark

And the palestinians are just blowing up a few civilians to kill who.... a few civilians... at least the israelis are trying to go after a known terrorist... I don't see the people eating at restaurants and going to nightclubs building bombs and going after innocent palestinians.

Exactly.

I agree. I sympathize the Israeli and Sharon. I know that the official EU policy is that they don't approve of Israel's actions. But the EU nations have never been in a similar situation. In fact, they made Jews live in ghettos in the past. Maybe these are my personal, prejudiced feelings, but I'm entirely on Israel's side.

 

[Moonbeam]

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Exactly.

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Forgive me but this seems like such a stupid point. The Palestinians are trying to end occupation by practicing terrorism because it's the only weapon they have. The Israelis are trying to end terrorism by killing terrorists. If the Palestinians had all the weapons and the Israelis were practicing terrorism, don't you think everything would be the other way round. Who is doing what is dependent on the aim.

 

[ThePresence]

Moonbeam's posts are starting to remind me of Linuxboy.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: rendicil

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: rendicil

Originally posted by: SnapIT


Another poster who hasn't read the thread at all... and obviously knows very little about the bombing...

NOBODY here disputes that Palestinian terrorists have killed children, NOBODY here says anything else than that it is horrible... BUT, it is just as horrible when the Israelis do the same thing...

And if you knew anything about the actual bombing, you would know that the people injured weren't just his family and that the bombing of civilians alongside with the Hamasleader was intentional...

You totally misunderstood my point. I lived in Israel for a while and I know plenty about the bombings... A couple of my friends were actually killed.... anyway... I was trying to say that Sharon is trying to prove a point to the palestinian terrorists that you can't just hide behind your family because we will not hesitate to make the israeli people safe. There are always people minding there own business (young and old) who are caught in the crossfire between the two nations (hell it happens here in the US too... look at gang wars in LA). And one of the most promising facts is that Palestinian people are starting to not harbor terrorists anymore for fear of what might now happen to there families. Any idiot terrorist out there who loves his/her family wouldn't hide behind them and would take what's coming to them. I mean they want to blow themselves up anyway... why take their families along with them?

And the palestinians are just blowing up a few civilians... so what? the palestinians were trying to prove a point, that you cannot hide behind your people (actually, not only the hamas family died in that bombing, a lot of others did too) because we will not hesitate to make the Palestinians safe. There are always people minding their own business (young and old) who are caught in the crossfier between the two nations (hell it happens her in Sweden too... look at the shadow wars in Stockholm). And one of the least promising facts is that the Israelis will not take one step back, instead they will continue their terrorism. Any idiot Israeli soldier out there who loves his/her family wouldn't hide behind them (i am sure nobody beyond the grade of sargant actually spends time with his family in the israely army) and if they should then they would take what's coming to them. i mean if they want to get praised in battle anyways, so why keep the families where they aren't safe?

And the palestinians are just blowing up a few civilians to kill who.... a few civilians... at least the israelis are trying to go after a known terrorist... I don't see the people eating at restaurants and going to nightclubs building bombs and going after innocent palestinians.

Nope, the innocent civilians were just going to sleep, and so someone bombed them... an act of terror? I just turned your own statement around and it fit like a glove...

 

[Booster]

Moonbeam wrote:

Forgive me but this seems like such a stupid point. The Palestinians are trying to end occupation by practicing terrorism because it's the only weapon they have. The Israelis are trying to end terrorism by killing terrorists. If the Palestinians had all the weapons and the Israelis were practicing terrorism, don't you think everything would be the other way round. Who is doing what is dependent on the aim.

I'm 100% sure that no nation in the world has suffered as much as the Israeli and no nation has been treated as unfair. What they're doing they're trying to protect themselves, their lives and property. Terrorist organizations and terrorist suicide bombers are the ultimate source of unjustifiable aggression that no religion can approve of. Suicide bombers have nothing to do with Islam, it has been said dozens of times by Islamic religious authorities. What's going on is a terrible, awful mistake.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
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Exactly.

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Forgive me but this seems like such a stupid point. The Palestinians are trying to end occupation by practicing terrorism because it's the only weapon they have. The Israelis are trying to end terrorism by killing terrorists. If the Palestinians had all the weapons and the Israelis were practicing terrorism, don't you think everything would be the other way round. Who is doing what is dependent on the aim.

You know, this is pretty true, terrorists is what the big army calls the small army when the small army has to fight by the means they do got.... sad...

 

[WarCon]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
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Exactly.

___________________________

Forgive me but this seems like such a stupid point. The Palestinians are trying to end occupation by practicing terrorism because it's the only weapon they have. The Israelis are trying to end terrorism by killing terrorists. If the Palestinians had all the weapons and the Israelis were practicing terrorism, don't you think everything would be the other way round. Who is doing what is dependent on the aim.

I know what your point is Moonbeam (that violence in general is bad/horrid/too extreme/inhuman/etc.), but what solution have you offered? Do you really see either set of leaders changing to a pacifistic mindset in the near future? Do you think a people will elect a leader who is willing to offer anything for peace (applies to either side actually - except the palestinian leadership isn't a single entity and would require multiple leadership changes)? It is all good and well to condemn a situation, but that condemnation means as much as gas passed into the wind. It will be smelled for a small time and then be forgotten. Israel/palestine needs a workable solution.

I think we should remember that this situation has had several workable solutions offered from one side and has no reasonable solutions offered from the other. One side allows settlers from the other and one doesn't. One side actually purchased the disputed land from its legal owners (much like the U.S. and Canada purchased their land in disregard to the "squatters" (I hope you can hear the sarcasm in that statement) that were living there at the time). The question is do we use history as a guidebook in looking for this solution or do we ignore history and start winging it. How much world pressure is it going to take to get a nation of palestine and a nation of Israel to coexist is peace? I personally am iffy about Israel's settlers, but understand their reasoning (even if I disagree - too big of a stumbling block against peace). I think the land should be divided fairly and reasonably (Jerusalem being forced to be a non-aligned city where both peoples have to live in peace or bulldoze it to the ground, which is as likely to happen as the use of nuclear weapons.) But I think to be fair, all immigration from one nation to the other should be completely stopped. This will force the world to see the leadership of palestine for what it is. Israel will no longer be supplementing palestinian pocketbooks/Israeli's will have to start doing their own work and the threat of suicide bombers will be lessened. I also think then if the people of one side continue in a crusade to hurt the other for whatever reason, then a military action can be used legitimately. The west could continue to help Israel and the Arab nations D) could assist palestine to build their economy.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Booster
Moonbeam wrote:

Forgive me but this seems like such a stupid point. The Palestinians are trying to end occupation by practicing terrorism because it's the only weapon they have. The Israelis are trying to end terrorism by killing terrorists. If the Palestinians had all the weapons and the Israelis were practicing terrorism, don't you think everything would be the other way round. Who is doing what is dependent on the aim.

I'm 100% sure that no nation in the world has suffered as much as the Israeli and no nation has been treated as unfair. What they're doing they're trying to protect themselves, their lives and property. Terrorist organizations and terrorist suicide bombers are the ultimate source of unjustifiable aggression that no religion can approve of. Suicide bombers have nothing to do with Islam, it has been said dozens of times by Islamic religious authorities. What's going on is a terrible, awful mistake.

YES! it is, but as long as the Israelis retaliate killing civilians, they are commiting the same horrible crimes... holy my A$$!!!

TWO TERRORIST NATIONS! I am sooo tired of this and now i am out of it... i will not respond to this sh!t again... the killing will go on, cheer one nation on as you may, go ahead, that makes them right, huh? Could someone please remind me why the fvck i even bother?

 

[Moonbeam]

Nice post WarCon. While I see in your post a pro Israeli stance, it at least has humility. Instead of telling us the solution, you ask, I think from the heart, what could be the answer. There is a huge difference between these two attitudes. One person knows the answer and tries to impose it by force. Another asks of yet others what the answer could be. That in itself really is the answer.

What does it mean to be certain. Isn't it a form of psychosis. Isn't it the lunitic property of every charismatic dictator in history. Certainty is the back side of fear, the fear of not knowing, the fear of lack of contron, the fear of being a child and being brutalized by adults. Certainty is the ego, the defense against memory, the memory of terrible pain.

But we know nothing, can control nothing. All the ritual in the world, it is just an attempt to coerse a completely inert and random universe to act predictably. To be uncertain is not to know, to surrender the need to control, to accept what is as it is. It is freedon from magic, from superstition, from the illusion of control, the need to control. To have uncertainty is to see the fear for what it is, the pain that was long ago before we built our protective ego cocoons brick by suffocating brick.

So I am saying, so far, two things. One is that the war (whatever war you wish) is the product of certainty, is waged by those who know and the other is that only seeing, understanding, realization of the process involved can lead to freedom from it. Am I certain of this. Hehe That raises the question of whether there are other ways to be certain, but never mind that now.

So when you ask me what my plan is, I am already involved in that. I am talking to you and to anybody else here that's listening. Pease requires the understanding of certainty and the realization that it is a psychotic response to a past traumatic situation. When and if enough people see that war is a product of mental illness, amnesia and the fear of remembering, or if they similarly have sufficiently died to the illusion of control, and begin to ask each other how are we going to end this insanity, it will begin to end. The wonderful truty is that everybody, free of the psychyotic ego, can become what we can't even imagine. Every child is born to love and be loved. You have to die to save them. You have to surrender everything you think is true, because everything we think is completely up side down.

 

[SnapIT]

Every child is born to love and be loved

Let this statement that is so true be the end of this thread...

 

[AZGamer]

No, I'd prefer having a true, factual statement regarding the topic.

Israel is a terrorist nation, and no reasonably intelligent person can support them or their actions.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: AZGamer
No, I'd prefer having a true, factual statement regarding the topic.

Israel is a terrorist nation, and no reasonably intelligent person can support them or their actions.

You just had to do that, didn't you, you idiot!

 

[WarCon]

Honestly Moonbeam, my pro-Israel stance comes from looking at the whole situation from the beginning and seeing who I feel has the more legitimate claim. Both are misbehaving as a people now, both out of fear, but entirely different fears. One's fear is specifically for its citizens and its continued existence. The others fears are much harder for me to define cleanly. I see leaders among this group living in lavish homes while right next door most of their nation is living in shanty town's. I also see from most other (if not all) Arab nations that this will never be a democracy or anything vaguely similar. In my heart of hearts, I can't support people that enslave part of their own society even if it is the norm for their culture. I have never walked a mile in their shoes though and I know life is precious. I am sure it is hard enough to go home after knowingly dropping a bomb on innocents, but to knowingly go home after convincing your best and brightest to strap on explosives and go for a walk. Thats an alien mindset to me. Sure in my anger at injustices like the WTC, I may feel some awful things, but to plan them and execute them would have me strolling in a dry and rocky place in my soul. While I have walked that place, it has been for short strolls only, not making camp and building my temple there.

Anyway, my stance will remain with a country that supports self-determination.

 

[Nefrodite]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Nefrodite

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Nefrodite

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Nefrodite

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Very interesting post, Stark. Fascinating to see war analyzed with cold reason and an eye to pragmatic outcome. Very Machiavellian. The problem I have with it would be similar to my critique of the market, there exists around the analysis a kind of vacuum, a failure of understanding as to what is value, what are desirable outcomes, what are the effects on the psyche. I see in your analysis, the hand of Evil, the cunning mind at work, the calculator the strategist, the future oriented goal seeker. Because man does not know for what he seeks he has the fantasy it lies in victory. I think the real victory lies in defeat, the death of the ego. When that happens war, violence and hate disappear and the real man, the real victor, the undefeatable one emerges. From that vantage I think the analysis you quoted is revealed as nothing more than what I have alluded to before, a sophisticated form of self justification based on the need to avoid feelings of guilt. War is a limitation of vision, a form of mental illness.

and it is also a reality. if we hadn't fought a war you would be either wearing a nazi arm band or dead already for your views.

That was almost sixty years ago... and if the south would have won, black people would still be slaves in the US... your point is? were you in that war? were you even born?

What does that have to do with what is happening in Israel today? NADA, ZILCH, NOTHING...

To this thread, your comment is of NO value... at all... not more than one that states that whenever a black man does something, we should think about the civil war... If the Jewish state of Israel does something wrong, people condemn them, and it has NOTHING to do with anti-semitism...

This comment is stupid, irrelevant and at best... just an attempt to irritate...

perhaps your comments have no value at all because they have no basis in reality.

So if i cannot accept that a sixty year old war, that has been over and done with for sixty years has no relevance to the action of the arabs, my opinions have no basis in reality?

I will stop arguing with you, you mix the palestinians bombings with the holocaust, the retaliation with the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki, a hamas leader with hitler...

THE WWII HAS ENDED.. get it? IT WAS SIXTY YEARS AGO... MAY IT NEVER EVER BE FORGOTTEN, BUT IT HAS NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH TO DO WITH THIS WAR!

Just understand this, this isn't a new persecution of Jews, i am sure if catholics live in the same settlemets they will not be spared... get it? do you understand it? this is NOT the holocaust all over again.....

you will stop argueing with me because all your arguements result in absurdity when taken to their logical conclusion. in your moral relativism we're all the same, we're all terrorists. even wars of defense are terrorist actions. you live in some morally relative universe where criminals are criminals only because police officers exist. and well, the police officers themselves are criminals too.

No, actually i will stop arguing because you do not see arabs and jews equal... you are a racist.. down to the bonemarrow.. i cannot change that so i will stop... The proof of that you just stated... everone can be a terrorist, white, arab, jew or whatever, you cannot accept the simple fact that if you bomb civilians intentionally you are a terrorist, i can... and i would be what the germans once called a true arier...

no actually, i don't see terrorists as equal. i can not like nazi germany and still not hate white people. by your very own definition the US is now a terrorist state and always has been. your reasoning is pathetic.

 

[Moonbeam]

The problem, I think, WarCon, is that inside you feel a sense of rightness about how people should act in the world and it does not enclude things that the Palistinians do, and you think that if your sympathies were to change you would have to abandon that sense of rightness. To put it simply you believe in the good, have some ideas as to what that is, some inner sense of it, and you can't acccept that the good shouldn't be what we strive for. Well that touches on that other kind of certainty I suggested might be around. I think that kind of feeling comes from deep within, from the place where we are good. I don't think you are wrong about it or have to give it up. It is something central something worth more than anything, but what I do question is what you know, how you came by the information you have and is it somewhat comprehensive and complete. Do we know enough to judge. Have we lived a Palestinian life. Are there things they konw and experience from the other side that has driven them mad. Have you heard their side in great and lenghty detail. I have mentioned several times that many of Israel's greatest critics are Jews. What do they know that doesn't get reported here in the US. Is the world press more objective and less biased to Israel and is that the reason that elsewhere Israel gets less support. Certainty that you have sufficient information to judge and condemn a murderer is one thing, but certainty that you can judge and condemn an entire people is something else again.

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: Nefrodite




no actually, i don't see terrorists as equal. i can not like nazi germany and still not hate white people. by your very own definition the US is now a terrorist state and always has been. your reasoning is pathetic.

it's Aryan, not Arier.

US is NOT a terrorist state? we did a lot of horrible things to South America, supporting dictators that are friendly to us using our power, kicking leaders (whether they're bad or not) if they're against us), etc etc. We sent our soldiers to fight in vietnam and killed so many vietnamese just because LBJ felt like playing with human lifes and politics. In many ways a lot of people see US as a terrorist state. A lot of arabs probably do, so do the russians, chinese, and europeans that feel like we have too much power.

America can do great things if our government is actually intelligent, clearly our government fail to be rational on issues, that's how I see it.

as for the whole Israel vs Palestinian conflict, it's out of reach for us and most suggestions are pretty unrealistic... so why don't we sit back and see what happens.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Nefrodite

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Nefrodite

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Nefrodite

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Nefrodite

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Very interesting post, Stark. Fascinating to see war analyzed with cold reason and an eye to pragmatic outcome. Very Machiavellian. The problem I have with it would be similar to my critique of the market, there exists around the analysis a kind of vacuum, a failure of understanding as to what is value, what are desirable outcomes, what are the effects on the psyche. I see in your analysis, the hand of Evil, the cunning mind at work, the calculator the strategist, the future oriented goal seeker. Because man does not know for what he seeks he has the fantasy it lies in victory. I think the real victory lies in defeat, the death of the ego. When that happens war, violence and hate disappear and the real man, the real victor, the undefeatable one emerges. From that vantage I think the analysis you quoted is revealed as nothing more than what I have alluded to before, a sophisticated form of self justification based on the need to avoid feelings of guilt. War is a limitation of vision, a form of mental illness.

and it is also a reality. if we hadn't fought a war you would be either wearing a nazi arm band or dead already for your views.

That was almost sixty years ago... and if the south would have won, black people would still be slaves in the US... your point is? were you in that war? were you even born?

What does that have to do with what is happening in Israel today? NADA, ZILCH, NOTHING...

To this thread, your comment is of NO value... at all... not more than one that states that whenever a black man does something, we should think about the civil war... If the Jewish state of Israel does something wrong, people condemn them, and it has NOTHING to do with anti-semitism...

This comment is stupid, irrelevant and at best... just an attempt to irritate...

perhaps your comments have no value at all because they have no basis in reality.

So if i cannot accept that a sixty year old war, that has been over and done with for sixty years has no relevance to the action of the arabs, my opinions have no basis in reality?

I will stop arguing with you, you mix the palestinians bombings with the holocaust, the retaliation with the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki, a hamas leader with hitler...

THE WWII HAS ENDED.. get it? IT WAS SIXTY YEARS AGO... MAY IT NEVER EVER BE FORGOTTEN, BUT IT HAS NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH TO DO WITH THIS WAR!

Just understand this, this isn't a new persecution of Jews, i am sure if catholics live in the same settlemets they will not be spared... get it? do you understand it? this is NOT the holocaust all over again.....

you will stop argueing with me because all your arguements result in absurdity when taken to their logical conclusion. in your moral relativism we're all the same, we're all terrorists. even wars of defense are terrorist actions. you live in some morally relative universe where criminals are criminals only because police officers exist. and well, the police officers themselves are criminals too.

No, actually i will stop arguing because you do not see arabs and jews equal... you are a racist.. down to the bonemarrow.. i cannot change that so i will stop... The proof of that you just stated... everone can be a terrorist, white, arab, jew or whatever, you cannot accept the simple fact that if you bomb civilians intentionally you are a terrorist, i can... and i would be what the germans once called a true arier...

no actually, i don't see terrorists as equal. i can not like nazi germany and still not hate white people. by your very own definition the US is now a terrorist state and always has been. your reasoning is pathetic.

You're not going to like this but, it is people like you that keeps the war going...

 

[SnapIT]

it's Aryan, not Arier.

Wher i come from it is an Arier...

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve

Originally posted by: Slovin8
What anit-semetic stuff?

This aritcle was quoted from MSNBC.

Since when being anti-sharon and anti-Israel military occupation and ethnic cleansing (Man of Peace) is anti-semitic?

Your title says ISRAEL is getting what it deserves. Not Sharon, not occupying troops, etc.

While I disagree with the authors choice of words for title, please look up the term antie-semite before just throwing it out there when someone disagrees with Israeli policy ok?