Israel minister: Strike on Iran could be necessary

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Anarchist420

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I wrote this in May of 2011 and they are still saying the same thing: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...srael/3186567/ I guess we have to admit if Israel ever does attack Iran it certainly shouldn't be a surprise.
ahmedinajahd was quite different from the previous people selected by the ayatollah, but i still dont think that progress got far enough to continue and be completed under his successor.

the only reason i would assume that he did get some weapon making started was because he was a keynesian who liked new ideas, was rather eccentric, and was probably the first person ever chosen by the ayatollah who could get it started. but then all of that could also mean that they were just for nuclear energy. either way, he was doing something with the uranium or whatever the fuck it was, but nothing the u.s. govt should concern itself with.

and from what i read awhile back, i doubt his successor is going to get anything done so i am not sure what the State of Israel is going after. we know that netanyahu lies like a sonuvabitch (like his claim that the Islamist State of Iran had nukes in '92) so you would have to take someone else's word over his.

also there was also some group he was part of that was the israeli PNAC (they both drew up plans for op 9/11 which were probably carried out by the CIA and mossad while the House of Saud probably provided support) but i forgot what it was called. anyway, bibi is basically the dick cheney of israel putting his subjects in harm's way without realizing what they would mean to him if he really loved them... he hates iran more than he loves israel.
 

iGas

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I am fine if Isreal takes care of it themselves. It is their threat they should deal with it as they see fit.
I agree wholeheartedly, and the American should stay the fuck out of it.

To take it a step further. Everyone must choose an allegiance to a single country, and in this case the American citizenship. If anyone that have a problem with it, then they should get the fuck out of America. And, non of the dual citizenship bullshit.

Thus, any American citizen that leave America to join the IDF, PSF, IRIA, IRCG, Al-Qaeda, or any group/nation beside the USAF should be treated as traitor/terrorists and the violators will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Unless they relinquish their citizenship prior to join other nation/group of arms, and are not allow to reapply for US citizenship.

And, anyone or organization in the US ask or donate to organizations outside of the US will be deemed as terrorist if the donation is not for humanitarian aids (school, hospital, and feed the hunger are okay, but not arms, churches, banks, businesses, properties, etc...)

IMHO, if you don't want to be an American then get the fuck out of America, because there are plenty of educated and upstanding people that are lining up to come to the great and free nation of the USA, and to become taxpaying American.
 
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blankslate

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People who think that Iran has to be bombed now seem to forget that Israel has a credible ability to strike back at any neighbors who use a nuclear bomb against them....

Israel has the largest arsenal of nuclear weapons in the region and I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate to use them given the proper provocation.

They don't have those silent diesel subs because the Israeli population are naval history buffs.
 
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Do you even read what you are responding to or just go on writing propaganda?

Israel has denied the Palestinians their homeland for decades with their military might. But they will NEVER be able to defeat their aspirations.

You may continue calling Palestinian actions as terrorism. I call it freedom fighting. As long as they civlians are not deliberately targetted, they should continue their actions.

That's just BS. And the Palestian "freedom fighters" are targeting innocent children and women. They don't believe in freedom but strict sharia law.

I'll happily translate whatever you want me to translate but as far as i know, the Talmud at faithweb is correct, i urge you to find flaws before you discard it.

Just because you hate all Jews and are a Nazist scumbag of pure sheit that needs to be strung up and shot in the chest for being the retarded terrorist sympathiser you are against the entire civilised world doesn't make you an authority on the Talmud.

I can read Hebrew just fine and i say it's an ok translation, that said, the discussions are the important part of the Jewish faith, it's not literally interpreted like the fucked up versions of Koran is where they use the EXACT SAME TEXTS to justify their murdering and rape.

Likely to get me banned, don't really give a sheit, with all the anti-semitism i have read on here lately it's a fucking breeze against a shitstorm that is allowed.

Harvey, fucking clean their clocks.

Agree. All the anti-semitism needs to stop and this irrational hatred towards Israel is just disturbing.

You can't blame Israel for wanting to attack Iran since they know obama won't help them out. Many countries would like for Israel to bomb Iran.
 

iGas

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That's just BS. And the Palestian "freedom fighters" are targeting innocent children and women. They don't believe in freedom but strict sharia law.



Agree. All the anti-semitism needs to stop and this irrational hatred towards Israel is just disturbing.

You can't blame Israel for wanting to attack Iran since they know obama won't help them out. Many countries would like for Israel to bomb Iran.
I wholeheartedly agree that the "anti-semitism needs to stop and this irrational hatred towards" Palestinian "is just disturbing."

If you are Jew you must watch this video(This RABBI is telling the truth)

Clearly explained why Orthodox Jews refuse to serve in IDF

IMHO, Zionists are the true antisemitic terrorists.
 
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rommelrommel

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People who think that Iran has to be bombed now seem to forget that Israel has a credible ability to strike back at any neighbors who use a nuclear bomb against them....

Israel has the largest arsenal of nuclear weapons in the region and I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate to use them given the proper provocation.

They don't have those silent diesel subs because the Israeli population are naval history buffs.

Who cares about second strike if your country is gone?
 

lozina

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Why do people think Iran needs to be bombed? Where is the objective, irrefutable proof that Iran is building nuclear weapons and what is the historical precedent which determines Iran is going to use such weapons in a first strike against anybody let alone Israel?

Just looks like more hatemongers salivating at the thought of causing bloodshed to Iran when you come up with hypothetical fantasies to justify attacking a sovereign nation.
 

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I honestly think that Israel needs to be bitchslapped hard for causing trouble for the rest of the world for a whole lot of nothing. It's enough that they've got our country's leaders in their pockets and got them to fight their wars.
 

kage69

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They can't do it w/o obama's okay

I wouldn't be so sure. I'm sure there were people back in the 80s who said the same thing about a possible strike on Osirak in 81. Reagan was both shocked and pissed, everyone was IIRC.
 

bignateyk

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We're talking about the government who supports terrorists like Al Qaeda, a government who slaughters it's protesters, a government who gets rid of the "unfaithful" by criminal prosecution of sorcery. I wonder where this "world" is you say will be safer. It's not this one.

You're an idiot. The shiite countries DO NOT support al queda. All muslim extremism comes from the arab countries like saudi.
 
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You're an idiot. The shiite countries DO NOT support al queda. All muslim extremism comes from the arab countries like saudi.

Al-qaida is all Sunni and they don't like Shiites. There isn't support for Al-qaida from them. It's one reason why Hezbollah and Al-qaida don't like each other.
 

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I think Israel can do whatever they want. As long as the USA did not condone it we can stand on the sidelines and speak out against it and have plausible deniability. We want to do it but we don't want the Oil Price hike that may come along with it. Everyone who lives in the Middle East knows that Iran is a loose cannon. I am sure the Saudis don't think Iran having nukes is a good idea.
 

iGas

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I think Israel can do whatever they want. As long as the USA did not condone it we can stand on the sidelines and speak out against it and have plausible deniability. We want to do it but we don't want the Oil Price hike that may come along with it. Everyone who lives in the Middle East knows that Iran is a loose cannon. I am sure the Saudis don't think Iran having nukes is a good idea.
What make you so sure?

Perhaps you are so gullible and eat up everything that the Zionists and teaparty serve up.





The reason Iran is teh evil is that they are selling their oil & gas to the Chinese, Indian, and Japanese instead of selling them to Europe, and building pipelines directly to China & India from the Caspian Sea instead going through Israel/ports.

The Afghanistan war was also over pipelines that were going to go to China & India.

Notice where the US military bases are, and how the pipeline go around the US friendly countries/bases.
 
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JEDIYoda

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and from what i read awhile back, i doubt his successor is going to get anything done so i am not sure what the State of Israel is going after. we know that netanyahu lies like a sonuvabitch (like his claim that the Islamist State of Iran had nukes in '92) so you would have to take someone else's word over his.
Netanyahu is on record as early as 1992 claiming that Iran was “close” to having a nuke.
Back up your diatribe or lies with facts.....Netayahu never stated that iran had nukes......he has always said is close to having....

This is the best you will get....
"In the spring of 2002, Iran crossed a major operational threshold with the successful test-firing of the Shahab-3 ballistic missile," Bodansky writes. "Launched from the Semnan region on May 1, the Shahab-3 achieved a range of more than 600 miles and struck its intended target – a major first. Any lingering doubts about the actuality of the Iranian nuclear threat were dispelled on May 24, during the Bush-Putin summit in Moscow, in a briefing by the Russian deputy chief of the general staff, General Yuri Baluyevsky. Addressing the significance of the Iranian ballistic-missile program as a regional and global threat, Baluyevsky was most explicit: 'Iran does have nuclear weapons. Of course, these are non-strategic nuclear weapons. I mean these are not ICBMs with a range of more than 5,500 kilometers and more.' While Iran may not be able to hit Moscow or Washington with its nuclear-tipped missiles, it can certainly strike Israel."

and this is coming from an Israeli intelligence officer!!
 
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JEDIYoda

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also there was also some group he was part of that was the israeli PNAC (they both drew up plans for op 9/11 which were probably carried out by the CIA and mossad while the House of Saud probably provided support) but i forgot what it was called.
You are amazingly wacko!! Another 9/11 consipiracy goofball!!
 

iGas

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Anyone in their right mind would seek an equalizer weapon/s if they are surrounded like how Iran is at the present.
 

JEDIYoda

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Why do people think Iran needs to be bombed? Where is the objective, irrefutable proof that Iran is building nuclear weapons and what is the historical precedent which determines Iran is going to use such weapons in a first strike against anybody let alone Israel?

Just looks like more hatemongers salivating at the thought of causing bloodshed to Iran when you come up with hypothetical fantasies to justify attacking a sovereign nation.
Do you ever take your head out of the sand???
 

JEDIYoda

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Anyone in their right mind would seek an equalizer weapon/s if they are surrounded like how Iran is at the present.
ahhh..poor Iran!! none of those countries surrounding Iran are a threat to Iran.

You can`t be that ignorant to believe that if Iran gets a nuke that they will not use it on Israel....or can you??
 

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Netanyahu is on record as early as 1992 claiming that Iran was “close” to having a nuke. Back up your diatribe or lies with facts.....Netayahu never stated that iran had nukes......he has always said is close to having....
thank you for informing me, but i think it's close to arguing semantics.
 

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Anyone in their right mind would seek an equalizer weapon/s if they are surrounded like how Iran is at the present.

Ignorant fools like you think having nukes will somehow equalize the game obviously can't think beyond today or tomorrow. There can be no equalization of power to countries just trying to get the nuke nowadays. That time has come and gone. Now their entire country could be obliterated if they get the nuke all because their desire to 'level the playing field'. More nukes don't equalize anything, they just guarantee more destruction.
 

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You can`t be that ignorant to believe that if Iran gets a nuke that they will not use it on Israel....or can you??

I think you seriously underestimate Iran's desire for its own continued existence.

Iran in the future would ideally be an ally of ours in the region.
 

JEDIYoda

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thank you for informing me, but i think it's close to arguing semantics.
no in this case you cannot possibly mistake what you claimed netayahu said that beyond a shadow of a doubt for certain iran has Nukes.....with the statement Iran is close to having nukes!

Semantics hardly -- you out and out lied!!
 
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