Israel - Palestine

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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I think the "palestinian" election finally proved they do not want to co-exist with Israel.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: JS80
I think the "palestinian" election finally proved they do not want to co-exist with Israel.

I wouldnt say that, I think it shows they didnt like Arafats regime.
They picked one evil over another due to spite.

However the process moves forward and hopefully Hamas will either growup and join the world of geo politics or continue to oppress their own people and eventually get the boot at the next election.
 

OrganizedChaos

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Apr 21, 2002
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i think we should fence off a chunk of the southwest US(arizona,nevada,maybe texas) and move the entire country of Isreal inside of US borders. Ta-Da, i give you peace in the mid-east.
 

ntdz

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Aug 5, 2004
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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
i think we should fence off a chunk of the southwest US(arizona,nevada,maybe texas) and move the entire country of Isreal inside of US borders. Ta-Da, i give you peace in the mid-east.

This is a joke right? They only want to be in Israel because it's the holy land...
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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No choice that says Israel should give back some more land, but not 100 percent.
 

RichardE

Banned
Dec 31, 2005
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Why should they get it back? they were attacked and won. They are justified in the land they got.
 

NumbersGuy

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Sep 16, 2002
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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
i think we should fence off a chunk of the southwest US(arizona,nevada,maybe texas) and move the entire country of Isreal inside of US borders. Ta-Da, i give you peace in the mid-east.


Maybe the good natured folks in those parts would like it as much as the Palestinians. :disgust:
 

mOeeOm

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Dec 27, 2004
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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
i think we should fence off a chunk of the southwest US(arizona,nevada,maybe texas) and move the entire country of Isreal inside of US borders. Ta-Da, i give you peace in the mid-east.

:thumbsup:
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
i think we should fence off a chunk of the southwest US(arizona,nevada,maybe texas) and move the entire country of Isreal inside of US borders. Ta-Da, i give you peace in the mid-east.

Nah, that won't bring peace. Other problems will occur. The far-reaching bigotry in the Middle East needs to be addressed.
 

kogase

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Sep 8, 2004
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
i think we should fence off a chunk of the southwest US(arizona,nevada,maybe texas) and move the entire country of Isreal inside of US borders. Ta-Da, i give you peace in the mid-east.

Nah, that won't bring peace. Other problems will occur. The far-reaching bigotry in the Middle East needs to be addressed.

Yeah, moving Israel out of the ME would just change the focus of the Palestinians' agression from Israel back to where the rest of the ME has it: their own populace.
 

Ronstang

Lifer
Jul 8, 2000
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Originally posted by: NumbersGuy
Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
i think we should fence off a chunk of the southwest US(arizona,nevada,maybe texas) and move the entire country of Isreal inside of US borders. Ta-Da, i give you peace in the mid-east.


Maybe the good natured folks in those parts would like it as much as the Palestinians. :disgust:

At least he gave a very good, yet unintentional, analogy of exactly why the Palestinians feel the way they do. I have always argued that the Jews are the interlopers in this situation to a large degree and I understand the Palestinians' position yet I do not condone their methods. Unfortunately Israel is not going anywhere nor is it going to budge with a terrorist group leading Palestine. Basically all the balls are in Hamas' court and it will be interesting to see if there is peace or no more Palestine.....those are the only two options at this point.

The interesting thing to ponder is what happens if there are anymore Hamas sponsored terrorist attacks on Israel. How can there be? They would be considered an act of war and Israel would be within it's right to respond in any way it see fit and thus Palestine ceases to exist.....and I wouldn't blame them. This fact alone means that because of this election Hamas it actually painted into a corner and better change their ways and goals.
 

smack Down

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Sep 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: RichardE
Why should they get it back? they were attacked and won. They are justified in the land they got.

How about it is the right thing to do??
 

RichardE

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Dec 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Why should they get it back? they were attacked and won. They are justified in the land they got.

How about it is the right thing to do??

Why? they lost it in a war. Maybe next time they will not start one.
 

JEDIYoda

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Jul 13, 2005
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Mind you these people voting are 13 yr old kids who can`t even vote for president yet...kinda young for them to form any sort of opinion based on life experiences..hehee
 

smack Down

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Sep 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Why should they get it back? they were attacked and won. They are justified in the land they got.

How about it is the right thing to do??

Why? they lost it in a war. Maybe next time they will not start one.

Because it is wrong to take land that isn't yours and right to give it back.
 

RichardE

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Dec 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Why should they get it back? they were attacked and won. They are justified in the land they got.

How about it is the right thing to do??

Why? they lost it in a war. Maybe next time they will not start one.

Because it is wrong to take land that isn't yours and right to give it back.

They forfieted that land by starting a war for no reason. They lost, to the victors go the spoils
 

CanOWorms

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Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Why should they get it back? they were attacked and won. They are justified in the land they got.

How about it is the right thing to do??

Why? they lost it in a war. Maybe next time they will not start one.

Because it is wrong to take land that isn't yours and right to give it back.

They forfieted that land by starting a war for no reason. They lost, to the victors go the spoils

It's not the 17th century anymore.
 

RichardE

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Dec 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Why should they get it back? they were attacked and won. They are justified in the land they got.

How about it is the right thing to do??

Why? they lost it in a war. Maybe next time they will not start one.

Because it is wrong to take land that isn't yours and right to give it back.

They forfieted that land by starting a war for no reason. They lost, to the victors go the spoils

It's not the 17th century anymore.

Tell that to the muslim countries that started a war over nothing, and still till this day vow the extinction of Israel. Those lands make a nice barrier to those barbarians.
 

smack Down

Diamond Member
Sep 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Why should they get it back? they were attacked and won. They are justified in the land they got.

How about it is the right thing to do??

Why? they lost it in a war. Maybe next time they will not start one.

Because it is wrong to take land that isn't yours and right to give it back.

They forfieted that land by starting a war for no reason. They lost, to the victors go the spoils

It's not the 17th century anymore.

Tell that to the muslim countries that started a war over nothing, and still till this day vow the extinction of Israel. Those lands make a nice barrier to those barbarians.

The defense of israel is not the problem of the people living in those areas and it is wrong of israel to use their land as a buffer.
 

RichardE

Banned
Dec 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Why should they get it back? they were attacked and won. They are justified in the land they got.

How about it is the right thing to do??

Why? they lost it in a war. Maybe next time they will not start one.

Because it is wrong to take land that isn't yours and right to give it back.

They forfieted that land by starting a war for no reason. They lost, to the victors go the spoils

It's not the 17th century anymore.

Tell that to the muslim countries that started a war over nothing, and still till this day vow the extinction of Israel. Those lands make a nice barrier to those barbarians.

The defense of israel is not the problem of the people living in those areas and it is wrong of israel to use their land as a buffer.

Than move? Sorry, I have no sympathy for people who attacked a country unprovoked and are not being made to pay for it. Israel took the land in a war, if the countries did not want to risk having there land taken, they should not have started the war.
 
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