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Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
Because in their eyes Israel should not be a state. Israel is a religous state in a land where religion is very important.

That doesn't mean they want the people of Israel dead. If that was the case then 20% of the Arabs in Israel would be going ballistic.

The Jews control the holy land where the Muslims do not. So yes, it would make sense that the Muslims do not support a Jewish state controlling a part of their holy land that has been very important to them.
This holy land is important to the 3 monotheistic religions... and the Muslims didn't mind one being in control when it was them.

So explain to me how the Jews should have claim to the holy land over the Muslims. I know this is what you believe, am I wrong?

It makes no sense

It should have been a land controlled by the UN until a unified country could have been formed.

Since that didn't happen, the Muslims are now upset. Do they not have every right to be upset? How can you expect them to support a state such as Israel?
 

Meuge

Banned
Nov 27, 2005
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
Because in their eyes Israel should not be a state. Israel is a religous state in a land where religion is very important.

That doesn't mean they want the people of Israel dead. If that was the case then 20% of the Arabs in Israel would be going ballistic.

The Jews control the holy land where the Muslims do not. So yes, it would make sense that the Muslims do not support a Jewish state controlling a part of their holy land that has been very important to them.
This holy land is important to the 3 monotheistic religions... and the Muslims didn't mind one being in control when it was them.

So explain to me how the Jews should have claim to the holy land over the Muslims. I know this is what you believe, am I wrong?

It makes no sense

It should have been a land controlled by the UN until a unified country could have been formed.

Since that didn't happen, the Muslims are now upset. Do they not have every right to be upset? How can you expect them to support a state such as Israel?
Like I said, they didn't mind a single religion controlling the state when they did it.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: coomar
historically, the situation was dealt with better when the muslims controlled the holy land
That's cause the Jews didn't threaten them with mass murder.

Muslims are not going around threatening mass murder. 20% of Israel is Muslim. Like I said you do not see 20% of the population threatening to kill the Jews.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
16,129
2
0
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
Because in their eyes Israel should not be a state. Israel is a religous state in a land where religion is very important.

That doesn't mean they want the people of Israel dead. If that was the case then 20% of the Arabs in Israel would be going ballistic.

The Jews control the holy land where the Muslims do not. So yes, it would make sense that the Muslims do not support a Jewish state controlling a part of their holy land that has been very important to them.
This holy land is important to the 3 monotheistic religions... and the Muslims didn't mind one being in control when it was them.

So explain to me how the Jews should have claim to the holy land over the Muslims. I know this is what you believe, am I wrong?

It makes no sense

It should have been a land controlled by the UN until a unified country could have been formed.

Since that didn't happen, the Muslims are now upset. Do they not have every right to be upset? How can you expect them to support a state such as Israel?
Like I said, they didn't mind a single religion controlling the state when they did it.

and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.
 

Meuge

Banned
Nov 27, 2005
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: coomar
historically, the situation was dealt with better when the muslims controlled the holy land
That's cause the Jews didn't threaten them with mass murder.

Muslims are not going around threatening mass murder. 20% of Israel is Muslim. Like I said you do not see 20% of the population threatening to kill the Jews.
When was the last time you were in Israel?
 

Corbett

Diamond Member
Jun 8, 2005
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I am humored by the morons that suggest Israel be moved to America or Saudi Arabia or anywhere else besides where it is for that matter. According to the Bible that land was promised to Israel so really no matter what anyone does to Israel, they will have all of it eventually.
 

Meuge

Banned
Nov 27, 2005
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Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.
They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.
They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.

& you know this how?

I don't see the majority of Arabs blowing up school buses over it either.

All your post are saying Jews > Muslims

Are you Jewish?
 

Proletariat

Diamond Member
Dec 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.
They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.

Arguing with Aimster may very well give you an aneurysm.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
16,129
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Originally posted by: Corbett
I am humored by the morons that suggest Israel be moved to America or Saudi Arabia or anywhere else besides where it is for that matter. According to the Bible that land was promised to Israel so really no matter what anyone does to Israel, they will have all of it eventually.

According to Bush Iraq had weapons of mass destruction

The Bible is just as credible as Bush's words.
 

coomar

Banned
Apr 4, 2005
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

excerpts:

"By the end of World War II, the number of Jews in Palestine was approximately 600,000."

"According to official estimates at the time of the British Mandate, the total count of the non-Jewish population in 1945 was about 1,211,000, so there might be some inconsistency between the estimates."

so if Israel really was a democracy, the jewish population should have had roughly 33% of the elected house
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
16,129
2
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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.
They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.

Arguing with Aimster may very well give you an aneurysm.

Stay out of this or join in with something other than "argueing with Aimster".

This is the third+ time you have said this.

Go make more fake accounts and post in here.
 

Proletariat

Diamond Member
Dec 9, 2004
5,614
0
0
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.
They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.

Arguing with Aimster may very well give you an aneurysm.

Stay out of this or join in with something other than "argueing with Aimster".

This is the third+ time you have said this.

Go make more fake accounts and post in here.

Fake accounts WTF are you talking about?

You are paranoid as hell and are a horrible arguer. Just give you up you inevitably just flame people.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
16,129
2
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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.
They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.

Arguing with Aimster may very well give you an aneurysm.

Stay out of this or join in with something other than "argueing with Aimster".

This is the third+ time you have said this.

Go make more fake accounts and post in here.

Fake accounts WTF are you talking about?

You are paranoid as hell and are a horrible arguer. Just give you up you inevitably just flame people.

If I am a horrible arguer then why is this the third+ time you have said in numerous thread

"do not argue with Aimster"

Sounds to me like you cannot defend yourself very well so you want to gather up a coalition to come after me.

Maybe that way you can prove your points better.

Go sit in the corner and cry.
 

Proletariat

Diamond Member
Dec 9, 2004
5,614
0
0
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.
They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.

Arguing with Aimster may very well give you an aneurysm.

Stay out of this or join in with something other than "argueing with Aimster".

This is the third+ time you have said this.

Go make more fake accounts and post in here.

Fake accounts WTF are you talking about?

You are paranoid as hell and are a horrible arguer. Just give you up you inevitably just flame people.

If I am a horrible arguer then why is this the third+ time you have said in numerous thread

"do not argue with Aimster"

Sounds to me like you cannot defend yourself very well so you want to gather up a coalition to come after me.

Maybe that way you can prove your points better.

Go sit in the corner and cry.

I said it once. Why are you lying? People can obviously see that.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
16,129
2
0
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.
They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.

Arguing with Aimster may very well give you an aneurysm.

Stay out of this or join in with something other than "argueing with Aimster".

This is the third+ time you have said this.

Go make more fake accounts and post in here.

Fake accounts WTF are you talking about?

You are paranoid as hell and are a horrible arguer. Just give you up you inevitably just flame people.

If I am a horrible arguer then why is this the third+ time you have said in numerous thread

"do not argue with Aimster"

Sounds to me like you cannot defend yourself very well so you want to gather up a coalition to come after me.

Maybe that way you can prove your points better.

Go sit in the corner and cry.

I said it once. Why are you lying? People can obviously see that.

People can obviously see that?

Nobody in the world cares about what you and I are typing to each other right now.

It is pointless and serves no point.

Only you and I care. I find it ammusing. Thank you for hating me so much. Don't lose any sleep over it, ok?

Stop trying to make friends over the Internet. Who cares what people think of your opinions and views? Either stick to them or go become a politician and run for congress.
 

Proletariat

Diamond Member
Dec 9, 2004
5,614
0
0
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.
They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.

Arguing with Aimster may very well give you an aneurysm.

Stay out of this or join in with something other than "argueing with Aimster".

This is the third+ time you have said this.

Go make more fake accounts and post in here.

Fake accounts WTF are you talking about?

You are paranoid as hell and are a horrible arguer. Just give you up you inevitably just flame people.

If I am a horrible arguer then why is this the third+ time you have said in numerous thread

"do not argue with Aimster"

Sounds to me like you cannot defend yourself very well so you want to gather up a coalition to come after me.

Maybe that way you can prove your points better.

Go sit in the corner and cry.

I said it once. Why are you lying? People can obviously see that.

People can obviously see that?

Nobody in the world cares about what you and I are typing to each other right now.

It is pointless and serves no point.

Only you and I care. I find it ammusing. Thank you for hating me so much. Don't lose any sleep over it, ok?

Stop trying to make friends over the Internet. Who cares what people think of your opinions and views? Either stick to them or go become a politician and run for congress.

Thanks for misdirecting again. Have a nice day and stop lying pls.

KTHXBYE.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
16,129
2
0
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.
They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.

Arguing with Aimster may very well give you an aneurysm.

Stay out of this or join in with something other than "argueing with Aimster".

This is the third+ time you have said this.

Go make more fake accounts and post in here.

Fake accounts WTF are you talking about?

You are paranoid as hell and are a horrible arguer. Just give you up you inevitably just flame people.

If I am a horrible arguer then why is this the third+ time you have said in numerous thread

"do not argue with Aimster"

Sounds to me like you cannot defend yourself very well so you want to gather up a coalition to come after me.

Maybe that way you can prove your points better.

Go sit in the corner and cry.

I said it once. Why are you lying? People can obviously see that.

People can obviously see that?

Nobody in the world cares about what you and I are typing to each other right now.

It is pointless and serves no point.

Only you and I care. I find it ammusing. Thank you for hating me so much. Don't lose any sleep over it, ok?

Stop trying to make friends over the Internet. Who cares what people think of your opinions and views? Either stick to them or go become a politician and run for congress.

Thanks for misdirecting again. Have a nice day and stop lying pls.

KTHXBYE.

Misdirecting again?

You don't even know why you are argueing with me.

Yet you tell Meuge to stop argueing with me.

Makes no sense. Did you want all the attention? It's ok.. baby... don't worry I am all yours!

You're pathetic.
 

RichardE

Banned
Dec 31, 2005
10,246
2
0
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
Because in their eyes Israel should not be a state. Israel is a religous state in a land where religion is very important.

That doesn't mean they want the people of Israel dead. If that was the case then 20% of the Arabs in Israel would be going ballistic.

The Jews control the holy land where the Muslims do not. So yes, it would make sense that the Muslims do not support a Jewish state controlling a part of their holy land that has been very important to them.
This holy land is important to the 3 monotheistic religions... and the Muslims didn't mind one being in control when it was them.

So explain to me how the Jews should have claim to the holy land over the Muslims. I know this is what you believe, am I wrong?

It makes no sense

It should have been a land controlled by the UN until a unified country could have been formed.

Since that didn't happen, the Muslims are now upset. Do they not have every right to be upset? How can you expect them to support a state such as Israel?
Like I said, they didn't mind a single religion controlling the state when they did it.

and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.

I never heard about Jews crying when Muslims controlled it. Seemed Jews were able to peacefully co-exist under Muslim rule. Perhaps the muslims who are upset at Israel need to take a page out of this book? Not all Muslims hate Israel, the ones who do need to learn tolerance.
 

RichardE

Banned
Dec 31, 2005
10,246
2
0
Originally posted by: coomar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

excerpts:

"By the end of World War II, the number of Jews in Palestine was approximately 600,000."

"According to official estimates at the time of the British Mandate, the total count of the non-Jewish population in 1945 was about 1,211,000, so there might be some inconsistency between the estimates."

so if Israel really was a democracy, the jewish population should have had roughly 33% of the elected house


According to your reasoning, 50% of the congress should be female. I guess that means the US is not a democracy.
 

Adnan

Banned
Feb 3, 2006
18
0
0
As i said.

israel 6-7 million. Muslims 1.2 billion.

What you say all over the internet will not change a thing.

You can try to blame Israel for this or that.

Fact is as i said. You will not accomplish anything. Hate on the net is big.

And unfortunatley people like aimster and a few which by the way twisted my words or attempted to hahaha.

Heres the truth give or take. I am not going to go into exacts.

1948 Ben gurion Declares Israels independence.

Was it even 1 day when 5 arab countries attacked them.

Doesn't matter. They got the crap kicked out of them.

Lets skip to today.

Or forget the wars, everyone already knows Israel defeated all its foes over the decades.

Lets talk about land.

You wont ever get East Jerusalem. You can type all the hate you want. Wont happen.

Whats going to happen i will tell you now wether you like itor not.

Israel has been ordered by acting Pm to Finish the barrier as soon as possible.

Once it is finished most of the suicide bombers wont make it.

To use Gaza as an example.. Maybe 1 person or 2 max have ever made it in to attack israel in the 30 years or so they controlled it.

So once the barrier is done less will be able, or almost none compared to the years 2001-2004.

Until the Palestinians learn to behave. They end up suffering .

Most of the palestinians want peace, but they cannot speak out or the militants wilkill them. Too sad.

The militants are messing it up for the whole area.I am refferring to the occupied lands.

I am for israel, and i would fight for israel. There are many like me(millions).

Iran(JOKE). It has a large are, but mosty not habitat.. a few nukes would finish them.

I hope their stupid leader will one day have some sense..

He wont do crap anyhow, just talk more then likely.

ok i am gone.

Aimster needs to go to israel, but he wouldnt make it in. He would get arested .

If he only saw the truth that they dont start stuff.They just retialiate. They took over land over wars. The Pals want it back now. Sorry. They had a chace with BARAK offered 98% and said no.

LOL.
 

RichardE

Banned
Dec 31, 2005
10,246
2
0
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.
They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.

Arguing with Aimster may very well give you an aneurysm.

Stay out of this or join in with something other than "argueing with Aimster".

This is the third+ time you have said this.

Go make more fake accounts and post in here.

Fake accounts WTF are you talking about?

You are paranoid as hell and are a horrible arguer. Just give you up you inevitably just flame people.

If I am a horrible arguer then why is this the third+ time you have said in numerous thread

"do not argue with Aimster"

Sounds to me like you cannot defend yourself very well so you want to gather up a coalition to come after me.

Maybe that way you can prove your points better.

Go sit in the corner and cry.

I said it once. Why are you lying? People can obviously see that.

People can obviously see that?

Nobody in the world cares about what you and I are typing to each other right now.

It is pointless and serves no point.

Only you and I care. I find it ammusing. Thank you for hating me so much. Don't lose any sleep over it, ok?

Stop trying to make friends over the Internet. Who cares what people think of your opinions and views? Either stick to them or go become a politician and run for congress.

Thanks for misdirecting again. Have a nice day and stop lying pls.

KTHXBYE.

Misdirecting again?

You don't even know why you are argueing with me.

Yet you tell Meuge to stop argueing with me.

Makes no sense. Did you want all the attention? It's ok.. baby... don't worry I am all yours!

You're pathetic.

Well Aimster has become typical again. Loose a fight than resort to grade 3 tactics of petty bickering. As it stands, the Muslim nations lost a war they started, and there are consequences to that. They should be thankfull Israel didn't anex more land.
 

coomar

Banned
Apr 4, 2005
2,431
0
0
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: coomar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

excerpts:

"By the end of World War II, the number of Jews in Palestine was approximately 600,000."

"According to official estimates at the time of the British Mandate, the total count of the non-Jewish population in 1945 was about 1,211,000, so there might be some inconsistency between the estimates."

so if Israel really was a democracy, the jewish population should have had roughly 33% of the elected house


According to your reasoning, 50% of the congress should be female. I guess that means the US is not a democracy.

is it possible that the majority in the country voted for the jewish party... maybe

but more likely was that some part of the election was flawed and that is why I questioned the democratic origin of the country

 

coomar

Banned
Apr 4, 2005
2,431
0
0
Originally posted by: Adnan
As i said.

israel 6-7 million. Muslims 1.2 billion.

What you say all over the internet will not change a thing.

You can try to blame Israel for this or that.

Fact is as i said. You will not accomplish anything. Hate on the net is big.

And unfortunatley people like aimster and a few which by the way twisted my words or attempted to hahaha.

Heres the truth give or take. I am not going to go into exacts.

1948 Ben gurion Declares Israels independence.

Was it even 1 day when 5 arab countries attacked them.

Doesn't matter. They got the crap kicked out of them.

Lets skip to today.

Or forget the wars, everyone already knows Israel defeated all its foes over the decades.

Lets talk about land.

You wont ever get East Jerusalem. You can type all the hate you want. Wont happen.

Whats going to happen i will tell you now wether you like itor not.

Israel has been ordered by acting Pm to Finish the barrier as soon as possible.

Once it is finished most of the suicide bombers wont make it.

To use Gaza as an example.. Maybe 1 person or 2 max have ever made it in to attack israel in the 30 years or so they controlled it.

So once the barrier is done less will be able, or almost none compared to the years 2001-2004.

Until the Palestinians learn to behave. They end up suffering .

Most of the palestinians want peace, but they cannot speak out or the militants wilkill them. Too sad.

The militants are messing it up for the whole area.I am refferring to the occupied lands.

I am for israel, and i would fight for israel. There are many like me(millions).

Iran(JOKE). It has a large are, but mosty not habitat.. a few nukes would finish them.

I hope their stupid leader will one day have some sense..

He wont do crap anyhow, just talk more then likely.

ok i am gone.

Aimster needs to go to israel, but he wouldnt make it in. He would get arested .

If he only saw the truth that they dont start stuff.They just retialiate. They took over land over wars. The Pals want it back now. Sorry. They had a chace with BARAK offered 98% and said no.

LOL.

the funniest part is that you actually think some wall will stop terrorists
 

coomar

Banned
Apr 4, 2005
2,431
0
0
seems the democracry would have only been for the jewish state so my election point is somewhat invalid

the whole thing seems to remind me of what happened in india and other places the british left, what they decide to leave, their whole focus is getting out of the region as quickly as possible, often leaving significant problems
 
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