Israel - Palestine

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: coomar
seems the democracry would have only been for the jewish state so my election point is somewhat invalid

the whole thing seems to remind me of what happened in india and other places the british left, what they decide to leave, their whole focus is getting out of the region as quickly as possible, often leaving significant problems

Huge problems? The problems resulted from the muslim countries wish for bloodshed and there constant attacking of Israel. Israel wants peace, but it is hard when countries around you vow to destroy you.

 

[flavio]

People here need to get a lot more background on the situation before they start spouting off.

Truth is it's even difficult justify the creation of Israel in 1948 at all. Jews immigrated to Palestine from other countries, subjugated the native people, dispossesed and expelled them from their land, denied them polital rights, destroyed their villages, indicriminately used torture, massacred civilians, and and left hundreds of thousands of refugees homeless and starving.

Just forget entirely that Palestians have as much or more ancestral claim to the land as the Israeli's do. Basing this on ancestry doesn't mean a whole lot to me. The Zionist project encourage massive numbers of Jews to immigrate to the area from other countries who then stole land from the indigenous people. That would be like an an American of Italian descent born and raised in the US going over to Italy and finding someone without Italiian ancestors who's lived in Italy their whole life and taking their land.

The fact that Israel is a state built on conquest, that it has invaded surrounding countries, bombed and destroyed at will, to the fact that it currently occupies Lebanese, Syrian, and Palestinian territory against international law, and violated UN mandates and Geneva conventions might have something to do with their outlook on the Jews.

That Israel has incredible military superiority in large part because of weapons and massive funding from the US could explain the use of terrorist tactics instead of conventional battles and their hostility towards America.

Actually it's incredible that the media hasn't considered this a better explanation for "Islamic Terror" than the usual blaming it on Muslim idealogy, "they despise our way of life", or "hate freedom".

It also makes it seem likely that a more responsible foreign policy could actually decrease terrorism and hostility instead of Bush's war which has increased them. Maybe that's not the goal though.

Gandhi on the Palestine conflict - 1938

"Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French...What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct...If they [the Jews] must look to the Palestine of geography as their national home, it is wrong to enter it under the shadow of the British gun. A religious act cannot be performed with the aid of the bayonet or the bomb. They can settle in Palestine only by the goodwill of the Arabs... As it is, they are co-sharers with the British in despoiling a people who have done no wrong to them. I am not defending the Arab excesses. I wish they had chosen the way of non-violence in resisting what they rightly regard as an unacceptable encroachment upon their country. But according to the accepted canons of right and wrong, nothing can be said against the Arab resistance in the face of overwhelming odds." Mahatma Gandhi, quoted in "A Land of Two Peoples" ed. Mendes-Flohr.

Check this out for more background

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster
Because in their eyes Israel should not be a state. Israel is a religous state in a land where religion is very important.

That doesn't mean they want the people of Israel dead. If that was the case then 20% of the Arabs in Israel would be going ballistic.

The Jews control the holy land where the Muslims do not. So yes, it would make sense that the Muslims do not support a Jewish state controlling a part of their holy land that has been very important to them.

This holy land is important to the 3 monotheistic religions... and the Muslims didn't mind one being in control when it was them.

So explain to me how the Jews should have claim to the holy land over the Muslims. I know this is what you believe, am I wrong?

It makes no sense

It should have been a land controlled by the UN until a unified country could have been formed.

Since that didn't happen, the Muslims are now upset. Do they not have every right to be upset? How can you expect them to support a state such as Israel?

Like I said, they didn't mind a single religion controlling the state when they did it.

and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.

I never heard about Jews crying when Muslims controlled it. Seemed Jews were able to peacefully co-exist under Muslim rule. Perhaps the muslims who are upset at Israel need to take a page out of this book? Not all Muslims hate Israel, the ones who do need to learn tolerance.

Yeah right

How do you think Israel was born in the first place?

Z I O N I S M

Jews have always wanted that land. It is common sense. Everyone has always wanted that land or else the Muslims would be controlling it still.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.

They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.

Arguing with Aimster may very well give you an aneurysm.

Stay out of this or join in with something other than "argueing with Aimster".

This is the third+ time you have said this.

Go make more fake accounts and post in here.

Fake accounts WTF are you talking about?

You are paranoid as hell and are a horrible arguer. Just give you up you inevitably just flame people.

If I am a horrible arguer then why is this the third+ time you have said in numerous thread

"do not argue with Aimster"

Sounds to me like you cannot defend yourself very well so you want to gather up a coalition to come after me.

Maybe that way you can prove your points better.

Go sit in the corner and cry.

I said it once. Why are you lying? People can obviously see that.

People can obviously see that?

Nobody in the world cares about what you and I are typing to each other right now.

It is pointless and serves no point.

Only you and I care. I find it ammusing. Thank you for hating me so much. Don't lose any sleep over it, ok?

Stop trying to make friends over the Internet. Who cares what people think of your opinions and views? Either stick to them or go become a politician and run for congress.

Thanks for misdirecting again. Have a nice day and stop lying pls.

KTHXBYE.

Misdirecting again?

You don't even know why you are argueing with me.

Yet you tell Meuge to stop argueing with me.

Makes no sense. Did you want all the attention? It's ok.. baby... don't worry I am all yours!

You're pathetic.

Well Aimster has become typical again. Loose a fight than resort to grade 3 tactics of petty bickering. As it stands, the Muslim nations lost a war they started, and there are consequences to that. They should be thankfull Israel didn't anex more land.

What fight?

You don't even have common sense to know what it is you are talking about. You are blabbering without thinking. Let me tell you what it is you are saying. If you lose a war then your land can be taken. Isn't this what you are suggesting? Germany and Japan shouldn't exist.

Please point out what fight and what the fight was over.

You dodge questions left and right pretending like you don't see them.

Don't dodge this one smart man.

I'd also love for you to show me how the Palestinians started a war

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster
Because in their eyes Israel should not be a state. Israel is a religous state in a land where religion is very important.

That doesn't mean they want the people of Israel dead. If that was the case then 20% of the Arabs in Israel would be going ballistic.

The Jews control the holy land where the Muslims do not. So yes, it would make sense that the Muslims do not support a Jewish state controlling a part of their holy land that has been very important to them.

This holy land is important to the 3 monotheistic religions... and the Muslims didn't mind one being in control when it was them.

So explain to me how the Jews should have claim to the holy land over the Muslims. I know this is what you believe, am I wrong?

It makes no sense

It should have been a land controlled by the UN until a unified country could have been formed.

Since that didn't happen, the Muslims are now upset. Do they not have every right to be upset? How can you expect them to support a state such as Israel?

Like I said, they didn't mind a single religion controlling the state when they did it.

and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.

I never heard about Jews crying when Muslims controlled it. Seemed Jews were able to peacefully co-exist under Muslim rule. Perhaps the muslims who are upset at Israel need to take a page out of this book? Not all Muslims hate Israel, the ones who do need to learn tolerance.

Yeah right

How do you think Israel was born in the first place?

Z I O N I S M

Jews have always wanted that land. It is common sense. Everyone has always wanted that land or else the Muslims would be controlling it still.

Jews and Muslims were getting along quite peacefully before Israel was created...of course you should know this.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.

They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.

Arguing with Aimster may very well give you an aneurysm.

Stay out of this or join in with something other than "argueing with Aimster".

This is the third+ time you have said this.

Go make more fake accounts and post in here.

Fake accounts WTF are you talking about?

You are paranoid as hell and are a horrible arguer. Just give you up you inevitably just flame people.

If I am a horrible arguer then why is this the third+ time you have said in numerous thread

"do not argue with Aimster"

Sounds to me like you cannot defend yourself very well so you want to gather up a coalition to come after me.

Maybe that way you can prove your points better.

Go sit in the corner and cry.

I said it once. Why are you lying? People can obviously see that.

People can obviously see that?

Nobody in the world cares about what you and I are typing to each other right now.

It is pointless and serves no point.

Only you and I care. I find it ammusing. Thank you for hating me so much. Don't lose any sleep over it, ok?

Stop trying to make friends over the Internet. Who cares what people think of your opinions and views? Either stick to them or go become a politician and run for congress.

Thanks for misdirecting again. Have a nice day and stop lying pls.

KTHXBYE.

Misdirecting again?

You don't even know why you are argueing with me.

Yet you tell Meuge to stop argueing with me.

Makes no sense. Did you want all the attention? It's ok.. baby... don't worry I am all yours!

You're pathetic.

Well Aimster has become typical again. Loose a fight than resort to grade 3 tactics of petty bickering. As it stands, the Muslim nations lost a war they started, and there are consequences to that. They should be thankfull Israel didn't anex more land.

What fight?

You don't even have common sense to know what it is you are talking about. You are blabbering without thinking. Let me tell you what it is you are saying. If you lose a war then your land can be taken. Isn't this what you are suggesting? Germany and Japan shouldn't exist.

Please point out what fight and what the fight was over.

You dodge questions left and right pretending like you don't see them.

Don't dodge this one smart man.

I'd also love for you to show me how the Palestinians started a war

You mean the PLO which was formed in 1963, that begain its terrorist attacks and codemnation of Israel that was a catalyst to the 6 day war? The war where the terrirory was lost? Yes it was the Palestinians through the Arab League that begain this war.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster
Because in their eyes Israel should not be a state. Israel is a religous state in a land where religion is very important.

That doesn't mean they want the people of Israel dead. If that was the case then 20% of the Arabs in Israel would be going ballistic.

The Jews control the holy land where the Muslims do not. So yes, it would make sense that the Muslims do not support a Jewish state controlling a part of their holy land that has been very important to them.

This holy land is important to the 3 monotheistic religions... and the Muslims didn't mind one being in control when it was them.

So explain to me how the Jews should have claim to the holy land over the Muslims. I know this is what you believe, am I wrong?

It makes no sense

It should have been a land controlled by the UN until a unified country could have been formed.

Since that didn't happen, the Muslims are now upset. Do they not have every right to be upset? How can you expect them to support a state such as Israel?

Like I said, they didn't mind a single religion controlling the state when they did it.

and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.

I never heard about Jews crying when Muslims controlled it. Seemed Jews were able to peacefully co-exist under Muslim rule. Perhaps the muslims who are upset at Israel need to take a page out of this book? Not all Muslims hate Israel, the ones who do need to learn tolerance.

Yeah right

How do you think Israel was born in the first place?

Z I O N I S M

Jews have always wanted that land. It is common sense. Everyone has always wanted that land or else the Muslims would be controlling it still.

Jews and Muslims were getting along quite peacefully before Israel was created...of course you should know this.

You are saying that the Jews and Muslims were getting along just fine before Israel was created.

OK.

Great. Let's go back to what it was before because according to what you just said everything was peaceful back then.

We found the solution!

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster
Because in their eyes Israel should not be a state. Israel is a religous state in a land where religion is very important.

That doesn't mean they want the people of Israel dead. If that was the case then 20% of the Arabs in Israel would be going ballistic.

The Jews control the holy land where the Muslims do not. So yes, it would make sense that the Muslims do not support a Jewish state controlling a part of their holy land that has been very important to them.

This holy land is important to the 3 monotheistic religions... and the Muslims didn't mind one being in control when it was them.

So explain to me how the Jews should have claim to the holy land over the Muslims. I know this is what you believe, am I wrong?

It makes no sense

It should have been a land controlled by the UN until a unified country could have been formed.

Since that didn't happen, the Muslims are now upset. Do they not have every right to be upset? How can you expect them to support a state such as Israel?

Like I said, they didn't mind a single religion controlling the state when they did it.

and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.

I never heard about Jews crying when Muslims controlled it. Seemed Jews were able to peacefully co-exist under Muslim rule. Perhaps the muslims who are upset at Israel need to take a page out of this book? Not all Muslims hate Israel, the ones who do need to learn tolerance.

Yeah right

How do you think Israel was born in the first place?

Z I O N I S M

Jews have always wanted that land. It is common sense. Everyone has always wanted that land or else the Muslims would be controlling it still.

Jews and Muslims were getting along quite peacefully before Israel was created...of course you should know this.

You are saying that the Jews and Muslims were getting along just fine before Israel was created.

OK.

Great. Let's go back to what it was before because according to what you just said everything was peaceful back then.

We found the solution!

Yes, tolerance. The Arab muslims should learn this concept.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster
and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.

They might be, but they'd be unlikely to blow up schoolbuses over it.

Arguing with Aimster may very well give you an aneurysm.

Stay out of this or join in with something other than "argueing with Aimster".

This is the third+ time you have said this.

Go make more fake accounts and post in here.

Fake accounts WTF are you talking about?

You are paranoid as hell and are a horrible arguer. Just give you up you inevitably just flame people.

If I am a horrible arguer then why is this the third+ time you have said in numerous thread

"do not argue with Aimster"

Sounds to me like you cannot defend yourself very well so you want to gather up a coalition to come after me.

Maybe that way you can prove your points better.

Go sit in the corner and cry.

I said it once. Why are you lying? People can obviously see that.

People can obviously see that?

Nobody in the world cares about what you and I are typing to each other right now.

It is pointless and serves no point.

Only you and I care. I find it ammusing. Thank you for hating me so much. Don't lose any sleep over it, ok?

Stop trying to make friends over the Internet. Who cares what people think of your opinions and views? Either stick to them or go become a politician and run for congress.

Thanks for misdirecting again. Have a nice day and stop lying pls.

KTHXBYE.

Misdirecting again?

You don't even know why you are argueing with me.

Yet you tell Meuge to stop argueing with me.

Makes no sense. Did you want all the attention? It's ok.. baby... don't worry I am all yours!

You're pathetic.

Well Aimster has become typical again. Loose a fight than resort to grade 3 tactics of petty bickering. As it stands, the Muslim nations lost a war they started, and there are consequences to that. They should be thankfull Israel didn't anex more land.

What fight?

You don't even have common sense to know what it is you are talking about. You are blabbering without thinking. Let me tell you what it is you are saying. If you lose a war then your land can be taken. Isn't this what you are suggesting? Germany and Japan shouldn't exist.

Please point out what fight and what the fight was over.

You dodge questions left and right pretending like you don't see them.

Don't dodge this one smart man.

I'd also love for you to show me how the Palestinians started a war

You mean the PLO which was formed in 1963, that begain its terrorist attacks and codemnation of Israel that was a catalyst to the 6 day war? The war where the terrirory was lost? Yes it was the Palestinians through the Arab League that begain this war.

You just said everything was fine before Israel was created.

Basically saying the two lived in peace until the Jews controlled the land.

So why is it fair that Jews get control of the land over the Muslims? They were both living in peace according to you.

Why didn't they both get control of the land?

Hmmm

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster
Because in their eyes Israel should not be a state. Israel is a religous state in a land where religion is very important.

That doesn't mean they want the people of Israel dead. If that was the case then 20% of the Arabs in Israel would be going ballistic.

The Jews control the holy land where the Muslims do not. So yes, it would make sense that the Muslims do not support a Jewish state controlling a part of their holy land that has been very important to them.

This holy land is important to the 3 monotheistic religions... and the Muslims didn't mind one being in control when it was them.

So explain to me how the Jews should have claim to the holy land over the Muslims. I know this is what you believe, am I wrong?

It makes no sense

It should have been a land controlled by the UN until a unified country could have been formed.

Since that didn't happen, the Muslims are now upset. Do they not have every right to be upset? How can you expect them to support a state such as Israel?

Like I said, they didn't mind a single religion controlling the state when they did it.

and the Jews don't mind it either but if the Muslims controlled it the Jews would be crying about it too.

I never heard about Jews crying when Muslims controlled it. Seemed Jews were able to peacefully co-exist under Muslim rule. Perhaps the muslims who are upset at Israel need to take a page out of this book? Not all Muslims hate Israel, the ones who do need to learn tolerance.

Yeah right

How do you think Israel was born in the first place?

Z I O N I S M

Jews have always wanted that land. It is common sense. Everyone has always wanted that land or else the Muslims would be controlling it still.

Jews and Muslims were getting along quite peacefully before Israel was created...of course you should know this.

You are saying that the Jews and Muslims were getting along just fine before Israel was created.

OK.

Great. Let's go back to what it was before because according to what you just said everything was peaceful back then.

We found the solution!

Yes, tolerance. The Arab muslims should learn this concept.

tolerance?

If the U.S turned into a Muslim state would you have tolerance?

Muslims and Christians in the U.S get along just fine.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: Aimster
You are saying that the Jews and Muslims were getting along just fine before Israel was created.

OK.

Great. Let's go back to what it was before because according to what you just said everything was peaceful back then.

We found the solution!

I have another solution. The radical muslims will shut the f. up, or face utter annihilation.

I like my solution better. It involves treating a culture of violence with the only method of negotiation they seem to understand.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster
You are saying that the Jews and Muslims were getting along just fine before Israel was created.

OK.

Great. Let's go back to what it was before because according to what you just said everything was peaceful back then.

We found the solution!

I have another solution. The radical muslims will shut the f. up, or face utter annihilation.

I like my solution better.

and you are exactly why there are radical Muslims.

So don't cry about their views when you feed them something to hate.

 

[RichardE]

You mean the PLO which was formed in 1963, that begain its terrorist attacks and codemnation of Israel that was a catalyst to the 6 day war? The war where the terrirory was lost? Yes it was the Palestinians through the Arab League that begain this war.

Lets not also forget, after the PLO started attacking, through the funding of the Arab league, Syria begain shelling Israels farms, unprovoked. What did Israel do? They protested through the UN, a peacefull way to protest this. Yet the bombings continues. Finally after that got no where, Israel launched a retaliatory attack.

Syria and Egypt begain ammasing its troops near the border and for the next 5 days, all the Arab league did was promise the destruction of Israel as it massed its forces.
Let us not forget the Egyptian blockade..which in itself was an act of war. Or Nassers daily tauntins towards Israel asking it to fight. Or how about Naser publicly announcing that the armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syrian and Lebanon and the PLO were ready to destroy Israel.

Still through all this..all this..Israels only response was a plea to the UN and shooting Syrians planes down that were bombing Israels farms.

Than..and Than..Iraq joined the Arab league there, vowing to help wipe Israel off the map.

So with almost a half a million troups at its border, thousands of tanks and hundred of planes, Israel defended itself.


This is what you don't get Aimster, this is what you fail to comprehend. The arab nations brought this on themselves, they more or less begged Israel to attack them. they formed and funded the current terrorist organization. They were the agressors and they lost. What they need to do is learn tolerance, and stop with the "wipe Israel off the map" line. Deal with your own cultural problems and stop looking for someone else to blame, and maybe than muslims in the ME will get the respect and acceptance they want. Until than, all they are are whinners who do not understand when they have beaten.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster
You are saying that the Jews and Muslims were getting along just fine before Israel was created.

OK.

Great. Let's go back to what it was before because according to what you just said everything was peaceful back then.

We found the solution!

I have another solution. The radical muslims will shut the f. up, or face utter annihilation.

I like my solution better.

and you are exactly why there are radical Muslims.

So don't cry about their views when you feed them something to hate.

Why - cause I don't want to accept their complete victory. Nice. So the only peace is peace on their terms?

Nah - that's not the way it's going to work.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Aimster
You are saying that the Jews and Muslims were getting along just fine before Israel was created.

OK.

Great. Let's go back to what it was before because according to what you just said everything was peaceful back then.

We found the solution!

I have another solution. The radical muslims will shut the f. up, or face utter annihilation.

I like my solution better.

and you are exactly why there are radical Muslims.

So don't cry about their views when you feed them something to hate.

Why - cause I don't want to accept their complete victory. Nice. So the only peace is peace on their terms?

Nah - that's not the way it's going to work.

What victory? They want their land back.

They want Israel to stop pushing them around.

Makes sense to me.

 

[RichardE]

Who is ignoring posts now?

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: RichardE
Who is ignoring posts now?

I ignored your post because you don't know what the purpose of the PLO is.

I am talking about Palestine and you are talking about a group.

PLO does not equal the country of Palestine.

You are just rambling.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE
Who is ignoring posts now?

I ignored your post because you don't know what the purpose of the PLO is.

I am talking about Palestine and you are talking about a group.

PLO does not equal the country of Palestine.

You are just rambling.

Ah, so first It was I have no idea the circumstances surrounding the land seizure. Than I show you I do, now I am ignorant of the purpose of the PLO. It was created to liberate Palestianians, there purpose was the destruction of Israel, it begain the attack on Israel. No you are ignoring my post because I actually know what I am talking about and can talk right through your propoghanda filled hate.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE
Who is ignoring posts now?

I ignored your post because you don't know what the purpose of the PLO is.

I am talking about Palestine and you are talking about a group.

PLO does not equal the country of Palestine.

You are just rambling.

Ah, so first It was I have no idea the circumstances surrounding the land seizure. Than I show you I do, now I am ignorant of the purpose of the PLO. It was created to liberate Palestianians, there purpose was the destruction of Israel, it begain the attack on Israel. No you are ignoring my post because I actually know what I am talking about and can talk right through your propoghanda filled hate.

So I hate Jews?

is that what you are suggesting?

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE
Who is ignoring posts now?

I ignored your post because you don't know what the purpose of the PLO is.

I am talking about Palestine and you are talking about a group.

PLO does not equal the country of Palestine.

You are just rambling.

Ah, so first It was I have no idea the circumstances surrounding the land seizure. Than I show you I do, now I am ignorant of the purpose of the PLO. It was created to liberate Palestianians, there purpose was the destruction of Israel, it begain the attack on Israel. No you are ignoring my post because I actually know what I am talking about and can talk right through your propoghanda filled hate.

So I hate Jews?

is that what you are suggesting?

I am saying your are blind, and you hate the Jewish state. That you have no real idea the problem of Muslims and you are just another simple sheep being used for the progress of a clerics agenda to destroy Israel. You are blind to the fact that the Muslim nations started the war, that Israel was a non-agressor. Now, even though the Me nations still vow to destory Israel, they still want the land back they lost the first time the fcked around.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE
Who is ignoring posts now?

I ignored your post because you don't know what the purpose of the PLO is.

I am talking about Palestine and you are talking about a group.

PLO does not equal the country of Palestine.

You are just rambling.

Ah, so first It was I have no idea the circumstances surrounding the land seizure. Than I show you I do, now I am ignorant of the purpose of the PLO. It was created to liberate Palestianians, there purpose was the destruction of Israel, it begain the attack on Israel. No you are ignoring my post because I actually know what I am talking about and can talk right through your propoghanda filled hate.

So I hate Jews?

is that what you are suggesting?

I am saying your are blind, and you hate the Jewish state. That you have no real idea the problem of Muslims and you are just another simple sheep being used for the progress of a clerics agenda to destroy Israel. You are blind to the fact that the Muslim nations started the war, that Israel was a non-agressor. Now, even though the Me nations still vow to destory Israel, they still want the land back they lost the first time the fcked around.

Considering I had a Bar Mitzvah, I think you are the blind one assuming too much.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RichardE
Who is ignoring posts now?

I ignored your post because you don't know what the purpose of the PLO is.

I am talking about Palestine and you are talking about a group.

PLO does not equal the country of Palestine.

You are just rambling.

Ah, so first It was I have no idea the circumstances surrounding the land seizure. Than I show you I do, now I am ignorant of the purpose of the PLO. It was created to liberate Palestianians, there purpose was the destruction of Israel, it begain the attack on Israel. No you are ignoring my post because I actually know what I am talking about and can talk right through your propoghanda filled hate.

So I hate Jews?

is that what you are suggesting?

I am saying your are blind, and you hate the Jewish state. That you have no real idea the problem of Muslims and you are just another simple sheep being used for the progress of a clerics agenda to destroy Israel. You are blind to the fact that the Muslim nations started the war, that Israel was a non-agressor. Now, even though the Me nations still vow to destory Israel, they still want the land back they lost the first time the fcked around.

Considering I had a Bar Mitzvah, I think you are the blind one assuming too much.

I am assuming from your blind hatred towards Israel and your continuation that Israel was in the wrong. As I said, it was the ME nations that begain this conflict. Israel tried to go through the UN to get it resolved, You are wrong Aimster, you need to go relearn your history before trying to take a stand on something. Israel deserves and should keep all the land they claimed while they were protecting there country, and the next time the ME countries think about attacking Israel, perhaps they will see the land Israel already owns and will think twice before making that mistake again.

 

[Aimster]

You are not proving "my hate" for Israel at all.
You are just blabbering.

I have family in Israel and I have friends in Israel.

You keep saying the ME. Israel is part of the ME.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Aimster
You are not proving "my hate" for Israel at all.
You are just blabbering.

I have family in Israel and I have friends in Israel.

You keep saying the ME. Israel is part of the ME.

As I said, muslim nations of the ME, is what I was refering too. And yes you do have a hate, an uninformed misguided hate. You spew Arab Nation propoghanda, when recorded history disagrees with you.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Aimster
You are not proving "my hate" for Israel at all.
You are just blabbering.

I have family in Israel and I have friends in Israel.

You keep saying the ME. Israel is part of the ME.

As I said, muslim nations of the ME, is what I was refering too. And yes you do have a hate, an uninformed misguided hate. You spew Arab Nation propoghanda, when recorded history disagrees with you.

I am neither Arab nor do I listen to anything Arab nations spit out

Just because I have an opinion I am anti-Israel?

You are a fool.

Like I said you know nothing about me nor do you know my views on Israel.