Israel warns: free soldier or PM dies

[mylok]

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0%2C20867%2C19645805-601%2C00.html

seems to me that would be murder?

 

[Harvey]

You're expecting sanity from anyone in the middle east? < sigh >

 

[daniel49]

there is no government in the world that has been dealing with arab terrorists as long as Isreal.

They simply understand what it takes to deal with these people.
Something the United States and Europe have no stomach for.
You can see how well our ideas of appeasement have worked In Palestine.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: mylok
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0%2C20867%2C19645805-601%2C00.html

seems to me that would be murder?

If that's what you call any war.

 

[compnovice]

Wow CNN Breaking news: Israeli forces fire on the offices of Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniya, Palestinian sources say.


Things are getting bad...

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: daniel49
there is no government in the world that has been dealing with arab terrorists as long as Isreal.

They simply understand what it takes to deal with these people.
Something the United States and Europe have no stomach for.
You can see how well our ideas of appeasement have worked In Palestine.

LoL?

And how successful has Isreal been? Despite an extreme hardline approach, they have failed to stop the underlying problem of Terrorism. While it may solve the issue in the short term, it does nothing in the long-term.

 

[mylok]

sorry but if they kill the PM they will have proven they are no different than the people they are fighting. murder is still murder.

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: daniel49
there is no government in the world that has been dealing with arab terrorists as long as Isreal.

They simply understand what it takes to deal with these people.
Something the United States and Europe have no stomach for.
You can see how well our ideas of appeasement have worked In Palestine.

LoL?

And how successful has Isreal been? Despite an extreme hardline approach, they have failed to stop the underlying problem of Terrorism. While it may solve the issue in the short term, it does nothing in the long-term.

How can a nation that was founded by terrorists condemn terrorism. The enemy is using the same tool the Zionist terrorists did when they carved out the borderless nation known as Israel. The IDF knew some kind of kidnapping operation was under way using tunnels before the kidnapping took place and used that time to mobilize and build up and prepare for an invasion. The last few weeks before the invasion Israel killed some 20 civilians. Fact is that Israel is much better at killing Palestinian civilians than the terrorists are at killng Israelis.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: daniel49
there is no government in the world that has been dealing with arab terrorists as long as Isreal.

They simply understand what it takes to deal with these people.
Something the United States and Europe have no stomach for.
You can see how well our ideas of appeasement have worked In Palestine.

LoL?

And how successful has Isreal been? Despite an extreme hardline approach, they have failed to stop the underlying problem of Terrorism. While it may solve the issue in the short term, it does nothing in the long-term.

How can a nation that was founded by terrorists condemn terrorism. The enemy is using the same tool the Zionist terrorists did when they carved out the borderless nation known as Israel. The IDF knew some kind of kidnapping operation was under way using tunnels before the kidnapping took place and used that time to mobilize and build up and prepare for an invasion. The last few weeks before the invasion Israel killed some 20 civilians. Fact is that Israel is much better at killing Palestinian civilians than the terrorists are at killng Israelis.

Source?

Seems Israel is a small nation, mobilizing forces would not be that hard.

 

[bamacre]

I said it before, this current escalation is not going to end anytime soon.

The Israeli soldier will probably be killed, before or after the Hamas PM is killed as well. The Palestinians are going to retailiate any way they can, they won't just stand still while Israel pumpels them. Vengeance for vengeance will continue, as it always has between these two, but this time it will be worse, I fear.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: daniel49
there is no government in the world that has been dealing with arab terrorists as long as Isreal.

They simply understand what it takes to deal with these people.
Something the United States and Europe have no stomach for.
You can see how well our ideas of appeasement have worked In Palestine.

LoL?

And how successful has Isreal been? Despite an extreme hardline approach, they have failed to stop the underlying problem of Terrorism. While it may solve the issue in the short term, it does nothing in the long-term.

How can a nation that was founded by terrorists condemn terrorism. The enemy is using the same tool the Zionist terrorists did when they carved out the borderless nation known as Israel. The IDF knew some kind of kidnapping operation was under way using tunnels before the kidnapping took place and used that time to mobilize and build up and prepare for an invasion. The last few weeks before the invasion Israel killed some 20 civilians. Fact is that Israel is much better at killing Palestinian civilians than the terrorists are at killng Israelis.

put that keyboard down. Your going to hurt yourself.

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: daniel49
there is no government in the world that has been dealing with arab terrorists as long as Isreal.

They simply understand what it takes to deal with these people.
Something the United States and Europe have no stomach for.
You can see how well our ideas of appeasement have worked In Palestine.

LoL?

And how successful has Isreal been? Despite an extreme hardline approach, they have failed to stop the underlying problem of Terrorism. While it may solve the issue in the short term, it does nothing in the long-term.

How can a nation that was founded by terrorists condemn terrorism. The enemy is using the same tool the Zionist terrorists did when they carved out the borderless nation known as Israel. The IDF knew some kind of kidnapping operation was under way using tunnels before the kidnapping took place and used that time to mobilize and build up and prepare for an invasion. The last few weeks before the invasion Israel killed some 20 civilians. Fact is that Israel is much better at killing Palestinian civilians than the terrorists are at killng Israelis.

Source?

Seems Israel is a small nation, mobilizing forces would not be that hard.

Probe: IDF knew militants planned abduction via tunnel

Probe: IDF knew militants planned abduction via tunnel
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Service

A preliminary investigation into an attack Sunday on an Israel Defense Forces post has found that the IDF had widely deployed along the Israel-Gaza border following warnings that Palestinian militants were aiming to use a tunnel to abduct a soldier.

Two soldiers were killed, a third was wounded and a fourth, 19-year-old Corporal Gilad Shalit, was abducted by the militants who carried out the attack.

The findings of the investigation were presented Tuesday to Defense Minister Amir Peretz during a visit to the Kerem Shalom crossing on the Gaza border, next to the site of the attack Sunday.

The panel, appointed by IDF Chief of Staff Dan Halutz, also found that two weeks before the attack, commanders in the IDF's Gaza Division raised the level of alert and told troops to prepare for such an attack. In light of the warnings about a tunnel, troops began drilling and dug ditches in the area.

In the days leading up to the attack, the probe found, the IDF considerably reinforced its presence along the border with Gaza and inside Israel. Unarmored vehicles were banned from traveling along the border, and the Kerem Shalom and Sufa crossings were closed.

etc.
...

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Too bad someoene wouldn't do that to Bush and Cheney.. anyhow.. yes.. it is murder but I don't expect anything less from Israel.. that is who they are

Or from any other nation that assassinated a leader/organized a coup...

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: dahunan
Too bad someoene wouldn't do that to Bush and Cheney.. anyhow.. yes.. it is murder but I don't expect anything less from Israel.. that is who they are

Or from any other nation that assassinated a leader/organized a coup...

Yes, didn't Shin Bet assasinate their own leader who wanted Israelites to find peace?

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: daniel49
there is no government in the world that has been dealing with arab terrorists as long as Isreal.

They simply understand what it takes to deal with these people.
Something the United States and Europe have no stomach for.
You can see how well our ideas of appeasement have worked In Palestine.

LoL?

And how successful has Isreal been? Despite an extreme hardline approach, they have failed to stop the underlying problem of Terrorism. While it may solve the issue in the short term, it does nothing in the long-term.

How can a nation that was founded by terrorists condemn terrorism. The enemy is using the same tool the Zionist terrorists did when they carved out the borderless nation known as Israel. The IDF knew some kind of kidnapping operation was under way using tunnels before the kidnapping took place and used that time to mobilize and build up and prepare for an invasion. The last few weeks before the invasion Israel killed some 20 civilians. Fact is that Israel is much better at killing Palestinian civilians than the terrorists are at killng Israelis.

Whoah, I want some of what you are smoking. An easy way to tell someone who is completely nuts about the subject is if they start spouting on about the Zionist movement.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: daniel49
there is no government in the world that has been dealing with arab terrorists as long as Isreal.

They simply understand what it takes to deal with these people.
Something the United States and Europe have no stomach for.
You can see how well our ideas of appeasement have worked In Palestine.

LoL?

And how successful has Isreal been? Despite an extreme hardline approach, they have failed to stop the underlying problem of Terrorism. While it may solve the issue in the short term, it does nothing in the long-term.

How can a nation that was founded by terrorists condemn terrorism. The enemy is using the same tool the Zionist terrorists did when they carved out the borderless nation known as Israel. The IDF knew some kind of kidnapping operation was under way using tunnels before the kidnapping took place and used that time to mobilize and build up and prepare for an invasion. The last few weeks before the invasion Israel killed some 20 civilians. Fact is that Israel is much better at killing Palestinian civilians than the terrorists are at killng Israelis.

Whoah, I want some of what you are smoking. An easy way to tell someone who is completely nuts about the subject is if they start spouting on about the Zionist movement.

So, Zionists didn't murder UN peacekeepers and negotiators upon the founding of that chunk of dirt in the desert .. If that chunk of dirt was really given to them by the Omnipotent God. .. then how did they lose it.. I mean shouldn't SuperGod who loves Israelis more than Gentiles and everyone else.. how could he let them face such terrible losses.. etc..

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: GrGr
Probe: IDF knew militants planned abduction via tunnel

Probe: IDF knew militants planned abduction via tunnel
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Service

A preliminary investigation into an attack Sunday on an Israel Defense Forces post has found that the IDF had widely deployed along the Israel-Gaza border following warnings that Palestinian militants were aiming to use a tunnel to abduct a soldier.

Two soldiers were killed, a third was wounded and a fourth, 19-year-old Corporal Gilad Shalit, was abducted by the militants who carried out the attack.

The findings of the investigation were presented Tuesday to Defense Minister Amir Peretz during a visit to the Kerem Shalom crossing on the Gaza border, next to the site of the attack Sunday.
...

Interesting. Even if true (and considering the source, that is doubtful), I don't see how you get it being Israel gearing up for an invasion. Assuming it is true, the only outcome is that the IDF changed its tactics to be on the lookout for tunnels and kidnappings. It isn't as if they knew when and where an attempt would occur. Your OP would seem to suggest that.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: daniel49
there is no government in the world that has been dealing with arab terrorists as long as Isreal.

They simply understand what it takes to deal with these people.
Something the United States and Europe have no stomach for.
You can see how well our ideas of appeasement have worked In Palestine.

LoL?

And how successful has Isreal been? Despite an extreme hardline approach, they have failed to stop the underlying problem of Terrorism. While it may solve the issue in the short term, it does nothing in the long-term.

How can a nation that was founded by terrorists condemn terrorism. The enemy is using the same tool the Zionist terrorists did when they carved out the borderless nation known as Israel. The IDF knew some kind of kidnapping operation was under way using tunnels before the kidnapping took place and used that time to mobilize and build up and prepare for an invasion. The last few weeks before the invasion Israel killed some 20 civilians. Fact is that Israel is much better at killing Palestinian civilians than the terrorists are at killng Israelis.

GrGr trying to incite.
proof......
The real fact is the Israeli`s do not go out of there way to send there own people hooked up to bombs to bomb buses or bimb restaurants for no reason what so ever>

The Israeli`s always act in a calculated manner using only enough force to solve the problem.

Heres an interesting photo slide show I found...
http://www.factsofisrael.com/blog/archives/000761-print.html
The BBC, which is typically very anti-Israel, has published a fairly balanced slide-show, showing pictures related to the desctruction of the Palestinian tunnels.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: GrGr
Probe: IDF knew militants planned abduction via tunnel

Probe: IDF knew militants planned abduction via tunnel
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Service

A preliminary investigation into an attack Sunday on an Israel Defense Forces post has found that the IDF had widely deployed along the Israel-Gaza border following warnings that Palestinian militants were aiming to use a tunnel to abduct a soldier.

Two soldiers were killed, a third was wounded and a fourth, 19-year-old Corporal Gilad Shalit, was abducted by the militants who carried out the attack.

The findings of the investigation were presented Tuesday to Defense Minister Amir Peretz during a visit to the Kerem Shalom crossing on the Gaza border, next to the site of the attack Sunday.
...

Interesting. Even if true (and considering the source, that is doubtful), I don't see how you get it being Israel gearing up for an invasion. Assuming it is true, the only outcome is that the IDF changed its tactics to be on the lookout for tunnels and kidnappings. It isn't as if they knew when and where an attempt would occur. Your OP would seem to suggest that.

Gee.. they took how many prisoners? and what damages has Israel now laid down on the Palestinian People because of it... WEIGH IT OUT



Look at how many people we have abducted and put in Guantanamo?

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: GrGr
Probe: IDF knew militants planned abduction via tunnel

Probe: IDF knew militants planned abduction via tunnel
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Service

A preliminary investigation into an attack Sunday on an Israel Defense Forces post has found that the IDF had widely deployed along the Israel-Gaza border following warnings that Palestinian militants were aiming to use a tunnel to abduct a soldier.

Two soldiers were killed, a third was wounded and a fourth, 19-year-old Corporal Gilad Shalit, was abducted by the militants who carried out the attack.

The findings of the investigation were presented Tuesday to Defense Minister Amir Peretz during a visit to the Kerem Shalom crossing on the Gaza border, next to the site of the attack Sunday.
...

Interesting. Even if true (and considering the source, that is doubtful), I don't see how you get it being Israel gearing up for an invasion. Assuming it is true, the only outcome is that the IDF changed its tactics to be on the lookout for tunnels and kidnappings. It isn't as if they knew when and where an attempt would occur. Your OP would seem to suggest that.

Gee.. they took how many prisoners? and what damages has Israel now laid down on the Palestinian People because of it... WEIGH IT OUT



Look at how many people we have abducted and put in Guantanamo?

Your point?

I doubt any American citizen has any moral ground to tell another country how to fight there war. I for one fully support Israel killing a man who vowed to destroy her.

 

[dahunan]

WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA will have to pay possibly $48,000,000 to rebuild the power plant that Israel bombed.. :roll:

God LOVES Violence.. at least the God known as Jesus's Dad does (the God of the Jewish people).. Jesus's would be a little homo by todays standards

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: daniel49
there is no government in the world that has been dealing with arab terrorists as long as Isreal.

They simply understand what it takes to deal with these people.
Something the United States and Europe have no stomach for.
You can see how well our ideas of appeasement have worked In Palestine.

Yeah, they certainly know how to "deal" with them. 50 years later and they still haven't figured it out.

Idiot.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: daniel49
there is no government in the world that has been dealing with arab terrorists as long as Isreal.

They simply understand what it takes to deal with these people.
Something the United States and Europe have no stomach for.
You can see how well our ideas of appeasement have worked In Palestine.

Yeah, they certainly know how to "deal" with them. 50 years later and they still haven't figured it out.

Idiot.

Don't tell GI Job that.. Murder is the only way to change someones point of view.. and if you kill a few innocents in the process then the more the merrier

 

[wazzledoozle]

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: daniel49
there is no government in the world that has been dealing with arab terrorists as long as Isreal.

They simply understand what it takes to deal with these people.
Something the United States and Europe have no stomach for.
You can see how well our ideas of appeasement have worked In Palestine.

LoL?

And how successful has Isreal been? Despite an extreme hardline approach, they have failed to stop the underlying problem of Terrorism. While it may solve the issue in the short term, it does nothing in the long-term.

How can a nation that was founded by terrorists condemn terrorism. The enemy is using the same tool the Zionist terrorists did when they carved out the borderless nation known as Israel. The IDF knew some kind of kidnapping operation was under way using tunnels before the kidnapping took place and used that time to mobilize and build up and prepare for an invasion. The last few weeks before the invasion Israel killed some 20 civilians. Fact is that Israel is much better at killing Palestinian civilians than the terrorists are at killng Israelis.

WTF are you smoking? The UN mandate of Palestine had seperate sections for both Israel AND Palestine, but when the British peacekeeping forces withdrew, the arabs refused to aknowledge Israel and promptly attacked them, at which point Israel kicked all of their asses. Get your history straight dude. If the Arab nations had just accepted the UN mandate, all would have been fine.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: daniel49
there is no government in the world that has been dealing with arab terrorists as long as Isreal.

They simply understand what it takes to deal with these people.
Something the United States and Europe have no stomach for.
You can see how well our ideas of appeasement have worked In Palestine.

Yeah, they certainly know how to "deal" with them. 50 years later and they still haven't figured it out.

Idiot.

Don't tell GI Job that.. Murder is the only way to change someones point of view.. and if you kill a few innocents in the process then the more the merrier

Sometimes innocents need to die to make changes, thinking anything else is naive.