I am a conservative with self understanding. I grew up in a good family and was well trained. I did everything right. I was trustworthy loyal helpful friendly courteous kind obedient cheerful thrifty brave clean and reverent. The idea of low quality, disgruntled, thankless people protesting in ways that inconvenience others makes revoltingly sick. I am just so much of a better person than they are and for all my moral rectitude and towing of the line, for all the effort I put into shining like the sun, what did I get? A slap in the belly with a wet fish. And there's the rub. Mommy and Daddy were hypocrites and failed to pat me on the head as I so richly deserved. and I deeply repress my anger about that. And look at all the attention those low lifes get. It makes me sick and puts me off my dinner. I know you because I know me. Every stick has two ends.
Israel says it hit an ambulance used by Hamas. Gaza officials say it was carrying the wounded.
It was a harrowing scene of chaos that left several people killed and dozens wounded outside the Al Shifa hospital in Gaza City.www.nbcnews.com
Obviously the SF bay area is so starved of infrastructure that a blockage of the Golden Gate bridge for a symbolic protest by a few dozen people will cripple emergency response.I have a feeling that you would have a different attitude if one of your family members were stuck in traffic and died due to a protest blockage such as this or your house burned to the ground etc...
As far as enlisting with IDF to get rid of Hamas, well that is one way. This is a Long Term problem and probably always will be.
Those pronouncing the "From the river to the sea..." and taking up for Hamas are just as wrong as they claim Israel to be. Like Obama said nobody has clean hands over this.
Yep, but to be fair he is likely just another victim of the greatest gaslighting operation the world (mostly the U.S.) has known. Easy to see how people can be gaslit by positions Biden and MSM take on anything Israel related. They may think they take these positions and side with Israel because Israel is "in the right" and that genocidal actions in war/combat are justified, but its far from that.I'm going to summarise your response: "Interesting thought, but I've chosen to ignore it".
I don't think there's any compatible ground for a discussion here because I think you're labouring under a couple of major misapprehensions:
Obviously the SF bay area is so starved of infrastructure that a blockage of the Golden Gate bridge for a symbolic protest by a few dozen people will cripple emergency response.
And Americans should've learned by now how not to interfere in matters half-way around the world that'll only worsen with their involvement.
Obviously the SF bay area is so starved of infrastructure that a blockage of the Golden Gate bridge for a symbolic protest by a few dozen people will cripple emergency response.
And Americans should've learned by now how not to interfere in matters half-way around the world that'll only worsen with their involvement.
See this is why you will always be a shithead. Nobody is protesting in favor of Hamas terrorism.View attachment 89045
Looks pretty jammed up to me... Nobody is getting through that mess. in the westbound lanes.
Protesters block all westbound lanes of Bay Bridge - 9 a.m. update
Pro-Palestinian protesters demanding a cease-fire in Gaza blocked all lanes of traffic on the Bay Bridge Thursday morning. (11/16/23)www.cbsnews.com
Well I'll just hope that your family members don't get caught up in any of these useless protest promoting the Hamas Terrorist. It is obvious you don't care if they do.
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Looks pretty jammed up to me... Nobody is getting through that mess. in the westbound lanes.
Protesters block all westbound lanes of Bay Bridge - 9 a.m. update
Pro-Palestinian protesters demanding a cease-fire in Gaza blocked all lanes of traffic on the Bay Bridge Thursday morning. (11/16/23)www.cbsnews.com
Well I'll just hope that your family members don't get caught up in any of these useless protest promoting the Hamas Terrorist. It is obvious you don't care if they do.
The expression is “Toe the line.” If you’re going to be sanctimonious, at least get the damned expression correct.I am a conservative with self understanding. I grew up in a good family and was well trained. I did everything right. I was trustworthy loyal helpful friendly courteous kind obedient cheerful thrifty brave clean and reverent. The idea of low quality, disgruntled, thankless people protesting in ways that inconvenience others makes revoltingly sick. I am just so much of a better person than they are and for all my moral rectitude and towing of the line, for all the effort I put into shining like the sun, what did I get? A slap in the belly with a wet fish. And there's the rub. Mommy and Daddy were hypocrites and failed to pat me on the head as I so richly deserved. and I deeply repress my anger about that. And look at all the attention those low lifes get. It makes me sick and puts me off my dinner. I know you because I know me. Every stick has two ends.
Israel says it hit an ambulance used by Hamas. Gaza officials say it was carrying the wounded.
It was a harrowing scene of chaos that left several people killed and dozens wounded outside the Al Shifa hospital in Gaza City.www.nbcnews.com
See this is why you will always be a shithead. Nobody is protesting in favor of Hamas terrorism.
Any different from these guys? Same logic would be that they want to wipe out the 5 million Pal population.I heard them chanting this "We are Palestinian, We are Hamas" in several protest along with the slogan " From the River to the Sea...", and "Honor the Martyrs of Palestine".
As I understand it From the river to the sea Palestine will be free meaning is Israel will be wiped out and Palestine will take the entire land area for itself.
Who exactly would be these Martyrs of Palestine? Hamas.
Any different from these guys? Same logic would be that they want to wipe out the 5 million Pal population.
Isn't the part of the Likud charter?Any different from these guys? Same logic would be that they want to wipe out the 5 million Pal population.
Four things you should know: I can't see words so I can't spell very well. I would never let my incapacity to spell interfere with any sanctimoniousness I might wish to express. I can be sanctimonious intentionally to act as a mirror to address what I regard as the sanctimoniousness of others. What you read was the latter.The expression is “Toe the line.” If you’re going to be sanctimonious, at least get the damned expression correct.
Four things you should know: I can't see words so I can't spell very well. I would never let my incapacity to spell interfere with any sanctimoniousness I might wish to express. I can be sanctimonious intentionally to act as a mirror to address what I regard as the sanctimoniousness of others. What you read was the latter.
As a bonus I offer you this: Whenever a sleeper's moral positions are revealed as a conditioned response the brain seeks rationalizations that deflect and reject. This is what you are doing. Truth hurts and time wounds all heals. All of your sacred cows have no rational defense. They all derive from unconscious assumptions the origins of which you can't remember and access. Welcome, my fellow machine.
And neither will Israel regardless of Hamas. If Hamas never existed there still would be no Pal state. RW Zionist ideology is so deeply entrenched to ever allow that to happen. To them there is no 'West Bank', it is Judea and Samaria. And to ever entertain the possibility of allowing the Pals to build their state upon it is sacrilege to the Zio-mindset.I agree that is wrong.
They need a two state solution, but Hamas will never permit that as long as they dictate to the Gaza People. That is another reason Hamas needs to be Wiped from Gaza.
You probably hoped to argue people who impede the travel of an emergency vehicle is acceptable to me if it is to the protest that you feel is pro terrorist. Anything else then would be a meaningless response because it would come from you out of the dark, ideas beyond your vision as in, There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreampt of in your philosophy. Anything outside that philosophy will be then, without your willingness to consider, unreal and meaningless. This, however, does not mean that I can see relevance you cannot.So no real or meaningful response...
And neither will Israel regardless of Hamas. If Hamas never existed there still would be no Pal state. RW Zionist ideology is so deeply entrenched to ever allow that to happen. To them there is no 'West Bank', it is Judea and Samaria. And to ever entertain the possibility of allowing the Pals to build their state upon it is sacrilege to the Zio-mindset.
You probably hoped to argue people who impede the travel of an emergency vehicle is acceptable to me if it is to the protest that you feel is pro terrorist. Anything else then would be a meaningless response because it would come from you out of the dark, ideas beyond your vision as in, There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreampt of in your philosophy. Anything outside that philosophy will be then, without your willingness to consider, unreal and meaningless. This, however, does not mean that I can see relevance you cannot.
I leave it to you to determine to what degree you may harbor resentment for those who do not live up to your own personal moral code. Remember, we conservatives have a lot more moral concerns than liberals do and as a result understand moral issues better than liberals themselves do. I know also that it is concerns for real moral values that drive your conservatism. We only differ, I think, in that we both believe in moral truth whereas you and not I know what it is and additionally what you believe it is it is not. We differ then, in that while you may have never attempted to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt to any rational mind the existence and nature of truth, I have and I failed because no such proof exists. You only believe; you do not know. I know I don't know.Magic Mushrooms or just Gibberish?
The ugly face of Israeli oppression.