The moment hamas uses a structure to conduct military activities it becomes a legally legitimate target. Nobody wants innocent people harmed but hamas has included their collateral damage into the mix. Israel must eliminate hamas if those people are to have a chance at a brighter future. Hence gaza must be leveled to eliminate the hamas infrastructure.Terrorists don't deserve mercy. Civilians do though. Your solution will kill tens of thousands of civilians. That's a war crime.
Nobody wants innocent people harmed but
The moment hamas uses a structure to conduct military activities it becomes a legally legitimate target. Nobody wants innocent people harmed but hamas has included their collateral damage into the mix. Israel must eliminate hamas if those people are to have a chance at a brighter future. Hence gaza must be leveled to eliminate the hamas infrastructure.
I'm really starting to believe the first part, the second part is a known fact though. They are using a lot of the same language to justify their shit that the Nazi's didPeople might be finally starting to figure this out. Israel is and has been a terrorist state for some time now. They are an oppressive apartheid murdering state. This is how its been working.
This was the same fate as Jemel Roberson. A black security guard who subdued a shooter. Police arrived shot and killed Jemel. People of color don’t get the same benefit of doubt from police. They are much quicker to shoot. I hear 1A people use Israel as another reason for the proliferation of guns.N12 - ×ר×× ××××× ×ת××¢××: ×××× ××¨× ××××¦×¢× ×פ××××¢ - ×× ××¨× ××ש×...
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tldr: terror attack in Jerusalem yesterday, armed citizen was able to neutralize the two attackers, soldiers came, he dropped his weapon and raised his hands, then he was shot
The late Yuval Doron Castleman, the civilian who shot the terrorists who committed the shooting at the entrance to Jerusalem, was shot by soldiers under suspicion that he himself was a terrorist. In footage, he can be seen raising his hands, and yet the soldiers shoot in his direction anyway. 3 civilians were killed at the liftershalte by two terrorists from east Jerusalem who were identified with Hamas at the entrance to the capital city - tonight Yuval died too of his wounds, after being shot at the scene. Aviad Frigia, one of the soldiers who took part in thwarting the attack told channel 14 about eliminating the terrorists: "we shot them until they fell."
Castelman, 38 years old from Mevaseret Zion, acted bravely when he shot the terrorists and thus prevented the massacre from continuing. The soldiers who saw what was happening stopped their vehicle and participated in neutralizing the terrorist - but accidentally shot towards Yuval's direction, who was badly wounded, and hours later he was pronounced dead at the hospital. The soldiers testified in their investigation that they thought Castleman was a terrorist and therefore shot him, this despite Castleman laying down his weapon and raising his hands. The police did not open a criminal investigation against the soldiers since the event is being treated as a two-sided shooting.
gdamn...dousing yourself on fire...
Pro-Palestine protester self-immolates outside Atlanta’s Israeli consulate
The person, who is as yet not been identified, is in critical condition and a guard who attempted to intervene was injuredwww.theguardian.com
Has anyone else started to see this shit pop up in the US? This was in Chicago
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@Puffnstuff is cool with these deathsSomething i had read earlier on Twitter and a news report but it never made it to mainstream news until i saw these
Birth and Death Intertwined in Gaza Strip
On November 9, Israeli airstrikes hit Al-Nasr Medical Center in Gaza City, cutting off the neonatal intensive care unit’s oxygen supply. The attack forced staff to evacuate the next day, leaving babies that could not be transported alone in intensive care, according to Doctors Without Borders...www.hrw.org
5 Premature Babies Found Dead In Gaza Hospital: Hamas Health Ministry
Five premature babies have been found dead at a hospital in Gaza City during a pause in fighting between Israel and Hamas, the Hamas-run health ministry said Wednesday.www.barrons.com
So much of this just doesn't add up. It's not like Shin Bet to be caught so completely unaware.
I'd say 50/50 chance Bibi was informed something was up, had his own "AQ determined to attack" memo given to him, decided to let Hamas help him consolidate domestic control instead, put the secular IDF back in his camp, wrap up his effort to neuter Israel's Supreme Court, and end the 2 state "threat" for good.
unbelievable . I am so sorry for the palistinins but fuck hamas.Imagine if this was any place other than Gaza and the international outcry it would induce
Moment strikes hit multiple residential complex in Gaza's Khan Yunis | AFP
Imagine that Hamas invaded Israel, and killed ~1200 Israelis, and took around 250 hostage.Imagine if this was any place other than Gaza and the international outcry it would induce
Moment strikes hit multiple residential complex in Gaza's Khan Yunis | AFP
Imagine that Hamas invaded Israel, and killed ~1200 Israelis, and took around 250 hostage.
In addition, Hamas should have released the Bibas family children and mother. Instead, they released a statement that the children and their mother are dead, and published a video where they tell the father (who is still held hostage in the Gaza Strip) that they've been killed in Gaza. I'm not sure what they thought they'd achieve, but instead they only made Israel more determined to finish them off. This is one of the consequences.
They also haven't let the Red Cross meet any of the hostages (which, according to Israeli statements, was part of the cease-fire agreement), and see their condition and pass on drugs that some of them are dependent on. Israel can't leave the gloves on with this kind of behavior.
to be fair, that is true about everyone involved including you.- yes it's terrible the hostages could not get their medicine, btw Israel has lied so so so fucking much that they are hardly a reliable source
Never doubted the Israel is the stronger side here.
Remind me again how this clusterfuck started.Since this whole clusterfuck started on the 7th of October
I'm 100% positive that Israel killed more than they got, in the thousands, but it's no surprise as Israel are way stronger. Somehow everyone in Gaza is either a kid or a women lol. Where are all of the adult men? gone? These number don't pass any basic sniff test. We've already seen what a joke the Gazan numbers are. They knew ten minutes after what happened at the hospital that 500 were dead. I don't think they ever went back and revised the numbers, but I'd bet that maybe a dozen or so died there (note that this was a Hamas misfire). Notice that even in the apartment building attack today, Gaza Health authorities are claiming that there were ~200 killed. Compare that to a misfire in a parking lot...Gaza
- Killed: At least 15,000
- Including at least:
- 6,150 children
- 4,000 women
- Injured: At least 36,000
- With more than 75 percent of them children and women
- Missing: At least 6,800
Hamas also works in the West Bank, so some action was inevitable. Hamas has also killed people in Jerusalem just a few days ago. That being said, these number make way more sense than those in Gaza, with regards to proportionality.Occupied West Bank
- Killed: At least 242
- Including 57 children
- Injured: More than 2,750
The official number is now 1144 (and multiples of that injured), according to Wikipedia. The reason that the numbers were revised, BTW, was that a few hundred Hamas members were counted as Israeli. Either way, is this a fine number? Do you think that it's OK? What would any country do, do you think, after such an action?In Israel, on November 10, officials revised the death toll from 1,405 to "around 1,200".
Israel
- Killed: About 1,200
- Injured: At least 5,600
Yes, it is horrible that old civilians and those with chronic illness that have done nothing wrong, are held hostage by Hamas without getting proper care and medication from the Red Cross, as was agreed - and some hostages have already died.- yes it's terrible the hostages could not get their medicine, btw Israel has lied so so so fucking much that they are hardly a reliable source
When it's been pointed out with proof that something i've posted was incorrect i believe i've admitted i was wrong (not 100% on that but i do admit i make mistakes) I'm not without faults, sometimes my emotions tend to get the better of meto be fair, that is true about everyone involved including you.
and you have been more then happy to link lies into this thread to.
I am sure you would make the same claim about me.
What is the saying, the first thing lost in war is truth?
Yes, it is horrible that old civilians and those with chronic illness that have done nothing wrong, are held hostage by Hamas without getting proper care and medication from the Red Cross, as was agreed - and some hostages have already died.
CNN also claims the same thing, that this is a violation of the agreement.
Sources say Red Cross has not yet been allowed to visit hostages in Gaza – a violation of truce agreement
A temporary truce between Israel and Hamas has been extended to a seventh day, Israel Defense Forces said Thursday morning.edition.cnn.com
When it's been pointed out with proof that something i've posted was incorrect i believe i've admitted i was wrong (not 100% on that but i do admit i make mistakes) I'm not without faults, sometimes my emotions tend to get the better of me
Can you point out what's wrong with him? Or is it because he's a Palestinian writer? What exactly that i posted was incorrect, point it out pleaseIntroducing myself
Hello, I thought it would be better to start off with an introductory post on this blog to let the readers know a little bit more about me. But of course first I have to mention that I am greatly honored to be given the opportunity to obtain a blog on the admirable and respected Electronic...electronicintifada.net
Jalal Abukhater's blog
electronicintifada.net
quite the source you have their.
You literally picked one of the active warring factions and decided to start repeating it as if it was a journalist.
You literally picked one of the active warring factions and decided to start repeating it as if it was a journalist.
Israel is a proper nation-state, so their acts against the Palestinian civilians constitutes a war crime. Minor civilian death tolls are always part and parcel of war. Sometimes (WW1-WW2) large civilian deaths are unavoidable. Israel's bombing campaign was expedient militarily but horrific in terms of unnecessary civilian deaths. Palestine, unfortunately, isn't a state actor, so the attack they made was one of terror.You are delusional.
Israel is no more a terrorist state then Palestine is.
Likud/Hamas are the same thing, minority governments with genocidal goals. They worked together to create this, and to say they represent Israel/Gaza is inaccurate at best.