Israel: We Are At War

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APU_Fusion

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Firebombing Tokyo in ww2? What does 2023 have to do with ww2? What about Japanese atrocities in China, Nazis in Europe. Stalin with his own people? What a loser argument being made. Israel is certainly no angel here but Hamas is blatantly killing children with glee on camera. They will be destroyed and their civilians will pay in blood. All of it is insane BUT WE KNOW HOW THIS WILL END.
 
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APU_Fusion

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Your political opinion is worthless.



Russians are killing women and children in Ukraine, but Ukraine does not target civilians in Russia. International support would evaporate if they did.

Any support for Hamas, if any existed outside of the middle east, has evaporated. As it should. However, if Israel starts killing civilians, support for Israel should evaporate. The truth is, Israel has been killing civilians in Palestine all along. This is why Israel does not get any sympathy from me and many others.
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Or the two nukes we dropped on Japanese cities just to scare Sta

Or the two nukes we dropped on Japanese cities just to scare Stalin
We didn’t drop nukes to scare Stalin. We dropped nukes because the expected casualties with invasion of Japan by US was in the millions between both sides.
 

Thunder 57

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Umm, no .... Fully opposed ....

UPDATED at 1:45 p.m.
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Sunday he has ordered the Ford carrier strike group to sail to the Eastern Mediterranean to be ready to assist Israel after the surprise attack ...


Just once I'd like to see this country say "Not my problem" and stay out of shit.
 
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I wasn't suggesting otherwise, merely echoing a response to this event that I find to be completely ridiculous. The PA authority doesn't seem to care about Israeli civilians right now, and to my knowledge has not condemned the intentional hunting and killing of Israeli citizens by Hamas. Their previously established position on Israel's right to exist is exactly why this campaign of murder should be easy to disavow and condemn.

The PA is a joke within the Palestinian community. That's why it has no power. No one is expecting them to give orders to Hamas and have them followed, but they should be able to condemn the wholesale slaughter of innocent civilians currently in progress without opting instead for a history lecture. Trying to excuse or defend terrorism in progress is a pretty shitty look IMO.

Or have they condemned it, and I just haven't seen it yet?
The PA is on very tenuous ground at this stage. Would appear foolhardy to them to give one sided statements of condemnation of terrorist acts committed by Hammas when their own people view themselves as perpetual victims of large scale state sponsored terrorism that has killed 1000s of their own men, women and children.
 

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I agree but H



We didn’t drop nukes to scare Stalin. We dropped nukes because the expected casualties with invasion of Japan by US was in the millions between both sides.

Also the Soviets had already began fighting the Japanese and were in total land grab mode. As horrible as it is Japan was better off in the end not having a potential "North/South Japan" type thing like Korea.
 

kage69

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So much of this just doesn't add up. It's not like Shin Bet to be caught so completely unaware.

I'd say 50/50 chance Bibi was informed something was up, had his own "AQ determined to attack" memo given to him, decided to let Hamas help him consolidate domestic control instead, put the secular IDF back in his camp, wrap up his effort to neuter Israel's Supreme Court, and end the 2 state "threat" for good.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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We didn’t drop nukes to scare Stalin. We dropped nukes because the expected casualties with invasion of Japan by US was in the millions between both sides.
LOL we nuked Japan because it was better for them? Do you also beat your wife because you love her?
 

kage69

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The PA is on very tenuous ground at this stage. Would appear foolhardy to them to give one sided statements of condemnation of terrorist acts committed by Hammas when their own people view themselves as perpetual victims of large scale state sponsored terrorism that has killed 1000s of their own men, women and children.

They have no real power and almost zero credibility with their own people. Seems like a good way to alienate the only other power broker in town, not to mention international observers like me.

Condemning apartheid and condemning the slaughter of innocent civilians are not mutually exclusive. They're already mostly irrelevant to the Palestinians, and thanks to their cherry picking over when it's ok to slaughter innocent civilians, now they'll be irrelevant to Tel Aviv and the West too.
 
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“To all civilians in Gaza, I say, get out of there,” Netanyahu said in a speech late Saturday.

Its been decided. I don't think they are going to get the time to flee though. I wish they would, but it doesn't feel like it is going to happen that way.


The United States will move an aircraft carrier strike group to the eastern Mediterranean Sea while providing munitions and other equipment to help Israel in its newly declared war against Hamas. President Biden pledged his “full support” to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, according to White House readout of a Sunday morning call between the leaders, their second in two days.
The USA is backing Israel's move on Gaza to the hilt.



“We have reports that several Americans were killed. We’re working overtime to verify that. At the same time, there are reports of missing Americans and there again, we’re working to verify those reports,” Blinken told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union.”
Israeli Minister of Strategic Affairs Ron Dermer told Bash Sunday that Americans are among the “scores” of hostages being held in Gaza.
Dead American's, American's held hostage, Biden's is not going to have a lot of options here.
 

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Not the thread for it, maybe you guys should make one. I'd recommend brushing up on what happened at Okinawa and Iwo Jima first though, maybe take a quick look at what Japan had in store for an invasion of Kyushu, Shikoku and Honshu.
LOL Iwo Jima always as the justification for nuking a bunch of women, children, and elderly men.
 

Zor Prime

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I'd like to see how the people in Gaza are supposed to flee. It's basically the same difference as a Governor or President telling the population of Idaho or Nebraska to get out of the state.

Not surprised to see us getting involved, or steering toward that. I figured that was pretty much a given and a matter of time.
 

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LOL Iwo Jima always as the justification for nuking a bunch of women, children, and elderly men.

What would have liked Truman to do? A full sacale invasion of Japan? Along with the Soviets? Fuck Japan, back then anyway. Did you forget they started it with a sneak attack on Pearl Harbour? Fuck of with the hur durr we terrible people cause we nuked Japan. And again, not the thread for it.
 
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Are those involved Americans, or they dual Israeli/Americans? Remember, it was an 'American' extremist that attacked the art museum recently.
 

kage69

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Hey Jewish people who voted for Trump, see the NYT yet? Loyalty is a one way street with Il Douche, never forget it. He sold America out, looks like he may have done it to Israel too. Remember how the Israelis were worried themselves?

The Russian asset delivered




That could explain how Hamas was able to get things prepped in secret - they had some inside knowledge of Israeli intel gathering.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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What would have liked Truman to do? A full sacale invasion of Japan? Along with the Soviets? Fuck Japan, back then anyway. Did you forget they started it with a sneak attack on Pearl Harbour? Fuck of with the hur durr we terrible people cause we nuked Japan. And again, not the thread for it.
You go fuck off, this thread is whining about Hamas killing women and children in war when we did the same shit in war even though it wasn't against an occupying force like Israel is in Palestine. This is absolutely the thread for discussing it when all of a sudden war crimes are wrong when they're done to white people but they're fine otherwise.
 

AtenRa

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You go fuck off, this thread is whining about Hamas killing women and children in war when we did the same shit in war even though it wasn't against an occupying force like Israel is in Palestine. This is absolutely the thread for discussing it when all of a sudden war crimes are wrong when they're done to white people but they're fine otherwise.

ehm
Palestinians are not in war with Israel, Hamas in case you dont know is just a terrorist group.
Secondly, Japan was an occupying force in ww2, they occupied part of China, Thailand, Vietnam, Philippines, Malesia, Singapore, Indonesia, Papua new guinea etc.
 

pcgeek11

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Well Hamas just jumped out of the frying pan right into the roaring fire. They have written their own death sentence. Good riddance. It's just unfortunate that more innocents on both sides will have to die also.
 

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Its been decided. I don't think they are going to get the time to flee though. I wish they would, but it doesn't feel like it is going to happen that way.



The USA is backing Israel's move on Gaza to the hilt.





Dead American's, American's held hostage, Biden's is not going to have a lot of options here.
CG CENTCOM officially ordered the Gerald R Ford carrier strike group to the MED in support of Israel.
 

SteveGrabowski

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ehm
Palestinians are not in war with Israel, Hamas in case you dont know is just a terrorist group.
Secondly, Japan was an occupying force in ww2, they occupied part of China, Thailand, Vietnam, Philippines, Malesia, Singapore, Indonesia, Papua new guinea etc.
Hamas doesn't represent the West Bank but they're the government of Gaza so that's a weird distinction to make. And the only part of the US that Japan occupied was a couple of small islands in the Aleutians for a year. Hardly the same thing.
 

Ajay

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You go fuck off, this thread is whining about Hamas killing women and children in war when we did the same shit in war even though it wasn't against an occupying force like Israel is in Palestine. This is absolutely the thread for discussing it when all of a sudden war crimes are wrong when they're done to white people but they're fine otherwise.
So the Carthaginians, under Hannibal, *almost* managed to sack Rome. In response, the Romans went on the offensive and eventually tore Carthage down to the ground. They killed ~65K Carthaginians in the city and enslaved around 50K. The Carthaginians were from Africa. Should we retroactively accuse the Romans of genocide? How about their involvement in slavery. You do see where all this is going I hope.

My comments about 9/11 were because the Israeli government call the attack by Hamas their 9/11. So, you know, it was kind of fucking relevant. And then there are your comments....
 
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