Israel: We Are At War

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While the neocons are rushing to go to war with Iran, why do we never get any coverage from what Iran has to say? Right now war fever is high among the ruling class in America. They love war it seems and they love finding new enemies to fight.

Meanwhile, Iran says it has nothing to do with this.


Going to war with a big country like Iran is no joke. People like Lindsey Graham, Tom Cotton and many others need to be held accountable for spreading war fever.
 

Leeea

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While the neocons are rushing to go to war with Iran, why do we never get any coverage from what Iran has to say? Right now war fever is high among the ruling class in America. They love war it seems and they love finding new enemies to fight.

Meanwhile, Iran says it has nothing to do with this.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...rdan-that-killed-us-soldiers-irna-2024-01-29/

Going to war with a big country like Iran is no joke. People like Lindsey Graham, Tom Cotton and many others need to be held accountable for spreading war fever.
Absolutely.

Also, I would like to assure everyone that the US had nothing to do with the coming IDF strikes against Iran.

fictional future date:
(Reuters) - Iran USA views claims it is involved in an attack that killed three U.S. service members large numbers of Iranian military members in northeastern Jordan near Syria's border as "baseless", foreign ministry spokesperson Nasser Kanaani Matthew Miller said on Monday.
Kanaani Miller also said the continuation of U.S. strikes Iranian proxy strikes on Israel as well as Iranian support for the war in Gaza will only intensify a cycle of instability in the region.
U.S. President Biden blamed Iran-backed groups Kanaani Miller blamed the IDF for the unmanned aerial drone attack on U.S. forces F35 attacks on Iranian military and nuclear assets, the first largest deadly strike against U.S. forces Iranian assets since the Israel-Hamas war erupted in October and sent shock waves throughout the Middle East.

Kanaani Miller said "resistance groups" IDF does not take orders from the Islamic Republic USA.
Earlier, Iran's Mission USA's contact to the United States Iran issued a statement affirming that "Iran the USA had no connection and had nothing to do with the large attacks on the U.S. base Iranian assets."
It added: "There is a conflict between U.S. forces the IDF and Iranian proxies resistance groups in the region, which reciprocate retaliatory attacks."
The attack is a major escalation of the already tense situation in the Middle East, where war broke out in Gaza after an attack by Palestinian Islamist group Hamas on Israel on Oct. 7.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...rdan-that-killed-us-soldiers-irna-2024-01-29/


If the US is forced to play the proxy game, it just extends the war in Gaza and enables Israel. However, the US certainly can do it, and simply has to stop saying No to the IDF. It is not a matter of saying Yes to the IDF. It is simply a matter of no longer saying No.
 

mikeymikec

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Is there a known factual reason why the US is supporting Israel?

I assume the truthful reason is that the US earns tonnes of money supplying arms to Israel. While I can potentially understand additional reasons like some kind of sense of obligation for making Jewish refugees someone else's problem, I would have thought such a reason would cut both ways in that it would benefit Palestinians and Israelis, but it doesn't.
 

KMFJD

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Is there a known factual reason why the US is supporting Israel?

I assume the truthful reason is that the US earns tonnes of money supplying arms to Israel. While I can potentially understand additional reasons like some kind of sense of obligation for making Jewish refugees someone else's problem, I would have thought such a reason would cut both ways in that it would benefit Palestinians and Israelis, but it doesn't.
Bribes....err i mean lobbying


anyone not pro-Israel runs against people that are well funded by AIPAC

Even Presidents feel the sting

 

KMFJD

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Meanwhile in Israel, politicians keep handing South Africa more evidence of genocide
Their neighbors should be PARTICULARLY concerned with their "neighborly conduct" and "loving hospitality" once they've dealt with the Gaza "problem". Then they'll be free to reclaim their ancestors' territory from Jordan to the Nile.
 

KMFJD

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Their neighbors should be PARTICULARLY concerned with their "neighborly conduct" and "loving hospitality" once they've dealt with the Gaza "problem". Then they'll be free to reclaim their ancestors' territory from Jordan to the Nile.
Hezbollah supposedly has enough ammunition to majorly inconvenience Tel Aviv/Hiafa if they try and invade Lebanon again, and i doubt israel's iron condom has enough rockets left to stop them
 

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This "raid" on a hospital in the West Bank is horrifying.

They are behaving very much like the terrorists they are claiming to be fighting against.

Why did they have to kill the suspects inside the hospital? Why not arrest them and take them outside?
 
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Leeea

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This "raid" on a hospital in the West Bank is horrifying.

They are behaving very much like the terrorists they are claiming to be fighting against.

Why did they have to kill the suspects inside the hospital? Why not arrest them and take them outside?
outside being told they are Israeli, how do I know they are Israeli?
 
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FlameTail

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outside being told they are Israeli, how do I know they are Israeli?
What? You are doubting the credibility of this information?

Well, the IDF themselves claimed they did it. Go look it up. CNN, BBC and all your western media outlets have reported on it.
 

Leeea

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What? You are doubting the credibility of this information?

Well, the IDF themselves claimed they did it. Go look it up. CNN, BBC and all your western media outlets have reported on it.


Why not just post a real news source instead of going straight to shit propaganda sources? Why would we believe a source when it partially tells the truth 1 time after it lied, spun, reshaped, reframed, or selectively portrayed events 999 times?
 
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KMFJD

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and i thought it was only hamas that used human shields (every accusation is a confession for these guys as well)


it's just another war crime broadcast to the world freely by Israel, more ammunition for the courts

WATCH: 30 Palestinian bodies discovered in Gaza school, handcuffed and blindfolded



 

MrSquished

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Israel is simply demolishing Gazan civilian infrastructure their bombs haven't, and far from the Gaza border. The entire goal is to destroy Gaza as a place fit for human living, so they can take it over.

Israel is a disgusting entity

 
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Israel is a disgusting entity
The world is even more disgusting for letting them exist. Everyone got desensitized by what Russia did to Ukraine. This will not be the end of atrocities committed by a country. More will follow. We are not humans anymore. Just murderous animals that stand on two legs.
 
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Perknose

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Israel is a disgusting entity
However else you feel about what the Israeli government and army is doing in Gaza, which is awful beyond words, this statement of yours is a crude hate statement. Please think about what that makes you.
 
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However else you feel about what the Israeli government and army is doing in Gaza, which is awful beyond words, this statement of yours is a crude hate statement. Please think about what that makes you.

First, its clear he's talking about the Israeli government/military since he went out of his way to call out specific behavior. You say their actions are "awful beyond words" but apparently calling it disgusting is worse than beyond words? "The Israelis are being awful beyond words, so we better not use words to say how awful they are being or else we're being hateful!" That's a special kind of stupid argument.

And you know what, I hate people doing such behavior as the Israeli government is doing in Palestine, so it does make me hateful, because if you don't hate that behavior then guess what you're also hateful, just in a different way. I have no problem hating hateful behavior being done by other people. But I guess that's too mean to call genocidal behavior as disgusting. How very Republican of you.

Please think about what criticizing hate against hateful behavior is and what that makes you. It doesn't make you free of hate, it means you tacitly support the actual hate being perpetrated.
 

MrSquished

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However else you feel about what the Israeli government and army is doing in Gaza, which is awful beyond words, this statement of yours is a crude hate statement. Please think about what that makes you.
overcompensating here right now?

I mean seriously. Get a grip.

the first response to you gets it. have a cup of decaf, settle down.
 

MrSquished

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I heard about this on NPR the other day. Israeli civilians blocking aid trucks from entering Gaza. Can't verify this exact photo but the report is definitely true. Sick and disgusting.

 
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