Israel: We Are At War

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raildogg

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Honestly the US Admin should just fucking lean into genocide talk at this point. Imagine Biden onstage with Bibi:

"The US has secured a 35 billion dollar aid package to ensure the Israeli genocide of Palestinians meets success"

"The United States fully supports whatever final solution Israel chooses to resolve the Palestinian problem".

"Mr. Netanyahu has informed me that the dissolution of the Gaza ghetto is proceeding as planned".

I mean just fucking go for it. To cross another thread with this one, "Trump is more honest with his lies than Biden is with the truth".
Exactly, all we hear from American leadership is lie after lie. They talk about human rights, aid, relief etc while they are shipping planeload after planeload full of bombs, missiles and ammo so Israelis can murder innocent civilians.

Last week Biden had the king of Jordan visit him and the king basically said that America should do more. Biden stood there looking like a useful fool that he is. Of course Biden is not going to do anything but make false promises. Meanwhile, America cut funding to UNRWA based on Israeli lies.

"A few UNRWA employees helped Hamas so you must cut funding to the main agency that helps Palestinians with food and just living in general"
The US said "Sure, we will cut funding ASAP. We don't care about investigations or anything like that"

In this crucial time of mass starvation and suffering, the main aid agency has been defunded by the West all because Israel said a few of their guys helped Hamas on Oct 7. That's all it takes. That's how morally bankrupt the West is.


I cannot just blame the hypocritical Western world alone. The Muslim countries are largely silent too. The rich Gulf Arab states can easily replace the lost American and European funding for UNRWA with their oil wealth but they don't do it. Just a bunch of hypocrites as well. These people should be ashamed for letting this happen to the Palestinians while they stood and did nothing.
 
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GodisanAtheist

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Exactly, all we hear from American leadership is lie after lie. They talk about human rights, aid, relief etc while they are shipping planeload after planeload full of bombs, missiles and ammo so Israelis can murder innocent civilians.

Last week Biden had the king of Jordan visit him and the king basically said that America should do more. Biden stood there looking like a useful fool that he is. Of course Biden is not going to do anything but make false promises. Meanwhile, America cut funding to UNRWA based on Israeli lies.

"A few UNRWA employees helped Hamas so you must cut funding to the main agency that helps Palestinians with food and just living in general"
The US said "Sure, we will cut funding ASAP. We don't care about investigations or anything like that"

In this crucial time of mass starvation and suffering, the main aid agency has been defunded by the West all because Israel said a few of their guys helped Hamas on Oct 7. That's all it takes. That's how morally bankrupt the West is.


I cannot just blame the hypocritical Western world alone. The Muslim countries are largely silent too. The rich Gulf Arab states can easily replace the lost American and European funding for UNRWA with their oil wealth but they don't do it. Just a bunch of hypocrites as well. These people should be ashamed for letting this happen to the Palestinians while they stood and did nothing.


-Agreed, it's absurd that we can fund Israel's genocidal war against Palestinians while simultaneously failing to fund the defense of Ukraine vs Russia's genocidal war against them.

US needs to get it's priorities figured out, pronto!
 

raildogg

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Israel knows it cannot beat Hamas let alone Hezbollah so therefore, it bombs and destroys civilians and civilian targets. It is doing the same in Lebanon and Syria as well. It cannot defeat the military factions so it targets civilians. That's how Israel operates.

Most of the world thinks Israel is committing either war crimes or genocide or using collective punishment. Only the Western world is not. Only the Western world provides Israel the tools it needs to carry out the genocide. Not only that, the Western world has cut off aid to the group that can help the Palestinians the most during this time - UNRWA. All because a couple of employees of that group, out of many thousands, may have helped Hamas on Oct 7. So not only is the West giving Israel all the weapons to commit genocide, it is also stopping aid from going to the Palestinians.

This is not even factoring in the Israeli extremists who are at the Rafah crossing and preventing aid trucks from going in. So right now, very little aid is going in. People are starving and Israel is dropping bombs on them. Yet, Hillary Clinton talks about sexual atrocities of Hamas, which have been disproven. These people are evil.
 
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raildogg

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Germany is feeling guilty about its past genocide so it now is helping another country commit another genocide:

Once again, Germany is choosing genocide.


Throughout Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza, Germany has provided both material and diplomatic support.

The German government under Chancellor Olaf Scholz publicly affirmed its support for Israel’s deliberate infliction of famine on 2.3 million civilians in Gaza – half of whom are children – while it bombs them indiscriminately, killing entire families.

In the International Court of Justice, Germany last month placed its weight behind Israel’s defense against genocide accusations.

Over the past year, German military sales to Israel have increased tenfold, with the German government speeding up arms sales worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

Germany considers its support for Israel to be “reparations” for the Holocaust, even though Israel did not exist at the time and was not the victim. It was European Jews who were the victims of the genocidal German government and its genocidal EU partners.

German institutions and the police have also been cracking down on Palestinians in Germany and other activists opposed to Israel’s genocide in Gaza and Germany’s support for it.

“Virtually every major institution in Germany has been engaged in a wave of repression of ethnic minority communities – the scale and intensity of which is unprecedented in Germany’s postwar history,” Kumars Salehi, a visiting professor of German at Oklahoma State University, wrote in The Hill in December.

“The targets are Palestinians, other people of color and Jewish anti-Zionists alike.”

The German government banned a series of protests of Israel’s genocide in Gaza. Footage provided by activist group Palästina Spricht (Palestine Speaks), which can be seen in the video above, shows German police beating, attacking and detaining protesters.

Representatives of Muslim-majority countries raised the issue of increased Islamophobia with the German government at the United Nations.

“The rise of attacks on mosques and NSU (neo-Nazi) murders does demonstrate deep systemic failures of the German police and justice system in tackling such crimes,” said Turkey’s envoy.

Berlin authorities said they banned more than half of the 41 scheduled Gaza solidarity protests, fearing they would “emotionalize” Palestinians, The New York Times reported.

“I’ve been living in Berlin for 17 years now, and I have never experienced anything like this,” one activist, who requested that his identity be protected, told The Electronic Intifada.

“Germany would like us to pay the price for their past,” Palestinian activist and writer Majed Abusalama said.

“It also feels like this anti-Semitism that is within German society is being deflected on Palestinians,” the activist added.

Abusalama said, “Thousands of police are patrolling our streets, arresting our people, racially profiling only Arab-looking men and Palestinian-looking people, people of color, Black, with kuffiyehs.”

Both described German police crackdown on activists during Palestine solidarity protests.

“Police are pepper spraying people in their faces,” the interviewee who chose to remain anonymous said.

“I’m not exaggerating to say that some areas like Neukölln are really occupied by the police.”


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German crackdowns on people protesting genocide. All because Germany feels guilty. But the question is, why the hell do Palestinians have to pay the price for German guilt?
 
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raildogg

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Trumper Andy Ogles wants to kill them all....

Imagine if Ilhan Omar or Rashia Tlaib said that about the Israeli settlers occupying Palestinian land. They would be removed, silenced, banned, censored and shamed 24/7. Actually Rashia Tlaib was censured by the US for saying "river to the sea" while Netanyahu actually said that same statement but the media remained silent.

One standard for Israel and another standard for other people. That is not a fair system.
 

raildogg

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Benny Gantz is supposed to be the moderate in Israel? Ok then.

Israel is run by ultra right wing people. Extremists. They run the country and even many ordinary Israelis are turning that way.
 

KMFJD

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I do find it strange how we rightfully condemn mass incarceration/deportation/killing and kidnapping of Ukrainians while transferring in Russians, but when the israeli's do it and other heinous shit we just turn a blind eye or even worse we support their shit.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Benny Gantz is supposed to be the moderate in Israel? Ok then.

Israel is run by ultra right wing people. Extremists. They run the country and even many ordinary Israelis are turning that way.
We're run by ultra right wing nuts too. LOL Biden supposed to be a moderate.
 

HomerJS

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Guess what Hillary? Israel is literally killing thousands and thousands of women and children and you have the audacity to talk about Hamas sexual crimes (which have been discredited). She and other American leaders are very disgusting people. It is because of them and their use of sexual violence that they give Israel the credibility to carry out this genocide.
People keep forgetting Bibi was funding Hamas yet college students are getting all the criticism.

When protests broke out I saw pro Palestinian, didn’t see pro Hamas
 
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AtenRa

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Israel Ambassador to Greece Noam Katz interview about the War with Hamas , about Iranian proxies (Houthis , Hezbollah , Hamas) , and the East Mediterranean geopolitics and Security of the region.

 

fskimospy

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What Israel is doing has not been done since probably WW2. Even American indiscriminate bombing of Vietnam wasn't on this level. But you know what, this is what Israelis have been wanting for a long time. They used the Oct 7 to justify all of this and war pigs like Hillary Clinton, Schumer, Biden, and all Republicans are behind Israel. War pig Hillary Clinton even dared to give a talk at Columbia University recently (in which she was rightfully heckled) where she brought up crimes again women supposedly committed by Hamas on Oct 7.

Guess what Hillary? Israel is literally killing thousands and thousands of women and children and you have the audacity to talk about Hamas sexual crimes (which have been discredited). She and other American leaders are very disgusting people. It is because of them and their use of sexual violence that they give Israel the credibility to carry out this genocide.

The ICJ should hold America just as guilty of genocide as Israel. After all, on one hand America is giving Palestinians aid (which is not getting thru) and on the other hand, they are sending all the bombs and ammo that Israel wants to kill them. Remember, Israel is not fighting Hamas - they are killing civilians. That is all Israel is capable of. Their military is very overrated and has been regularly defeated by forces in the past, such as Hezbollah. That's why they target civilians.
What Israel is doing today hasn’t been done since at least Russia did it last week with nary a peep from you.

Hypocrite.
 
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