You too stupid to understand points being made (or willfully misrepresent them). While ignoring other vital info that undermines your RW-derived, pro-genocide trash.
You too stupid to understand points being made (or willfully misrepresent them). While ignoring other vital info that undermines your RW-derived, pro-genocide trash.On one hand you explain the back and forth tit-for-tat.
Then you follow up by pretending Hezbollah wouldn't do it. You know, despite bombing Israel for months. Yesterday is supposed to be an exception?
The rest of your post drips with feckless venom, and explains the inconsistency. You are for Iran's allies.
Nevermind this, Nevermind that. Do you have anything of actual substance to add? Hezbollah started the war in the north unprovoked. Already 12 children dead in this incident, but lets blame Israel for rockets fired by Hezbollah.And never mind that Lebanese civilians were also victims of indiscriminate attacks by Israel in their tit-for-tat exchanges with Hezbollah over past several months.
And never mind the 30 civs & children who were massacred by Israeli strikes on a school in Gaza just a few days ago. Was this a lesser event then the one you posted?
And never mind that Fox didnt even bother to say that Hezbollah firmly denied their role in the attack (whether true or not, it should still be reported like other media outlets did).
Maybe you should send Nasrallah a message and update us on his answer. No chance that when you fire dozens of rockets every day, you're bound to mess up.Tbh I see no advantage for Hezb to strike that particular (illegally occupied) area where most of the victims would likely be Syrians than Israelis. Why not strike Israel proper like they've been doing before?
Sure, another everthing-started-on Oct 7 Zio apologist. After that date, Hezbollah's first strike on "Israeli targets" was not on Israel proper but on the Shebaa Farms territory which Israel stole and occupied from Lebanon during their invasion of southern Lebanon in 1978. Which was/is a legitimate response to any occupation of a country's territory by a foreign invader. Even before Oct 7 things were not that quiet.Nevermind this, Nevermind that. Do you have anything of actual substance to add? Hezbollah started the war in the north unprovoked. Already 12 children dead in this incident, but lets blame Israel for rockets fired by Hezbollah.
Maybe you should send Nasrallah a message and update us on his answer. No chance that when you fire dozens of rockets every day, you're bound to mess up.
According to the UN, there is no evidence that Shebaa Farm (which is basically abandoned farmland of about 15 square miles) was a part of Lebanon. At the time the UN resolution regarding Lebanon in 1978 (e.g. UN Security Council Resolution 425), they were considered a part of Syria. Of course, Hezbollah needs some reason to keep fighting Israel... from wikipedia:Sure, another everthing-started-on Oct 7 Zio apologist. After that date, Hezbollah's first strike on "Israeli targets" was not on Israel proper but on the Shebaa Farms territory which Israel stole and occupied from Lebanon during their invasion of southern Lebanon in 1978. Which was/is a legitimate response to any occupation of a country's territory by a foreign invader. Even before Oct 7 things were not that quiet.
Following the Israeli withdrawal, the United Nations Secretary General issued a statement proposing the area for the operations of the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon; in the statement the controversy was described, with 81 different maps being studied; the UN concluded that there is no evidence of the abandoned farmlands being Lebanese, but proposed to maintain the existing boundaries of the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force in Syria (which had included the Shebaa Farms since 1967) "without prejudice" to any future agreement between Syria and Lebanon.
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According to the Arab newspaper, Al-Hayat, "The issue over these farms was created to justify resistance operations from Lebanon after the UN had created the Blue Line following Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon. The Shebaa Farms were placed inside Syrian territory."
Recalling also the statements of its President of 20 April 2000 (S/PRST/2000/13), 23 May 2000 (S/PRST/2000/18) and 18 June (S/PRST/2000/21) on the situation in Lebanon, in particular its endorsement of the work done by the United Nations as mandated by the Security Council including the Secretary-General’s conclusion that as of 16 June 2000 Israel had withdrawn its forces from Lebanon in accordance with resolution 425 (1978) and met the requirements defined in the Secretary-General’s report of 22 May 2000 (S/2000/460),
So basically, what you're saying is that Hezbollah/Lebanon attacked unprovoked first but "since then..."Since then the attacks and provocations have been overwhelmingly Israeli by a huge margin.
The Sheba farms did not fall under the scope of res 425 because it was still considered disputed Lebanese-Syrian territory. What is NOT disputed is that it is NOT Israeli territory. Israel withdrew from other Lebanese territories that did not include that. Yet it remains occupying lands in contravention to UN res 242 and which would include Sheba farms (along with the Golan) and which it continually flouted along with many other UN resolutions. Glad that you use UN references because that would open a whole can of worms for anyone arguing in favor of Israeli positions.According to the UN, there is no evidence that Shebaa Farm (which is basically abandoned farmland of about 15 square miles) was a part of Lebanon. At the time the UN resolution regarding Lebanon in 1978 (e.g. UN Security Council Resolution 425), they were considered a part of Syria. Of course, Hezbollah needs some reason to keep fighting Israel... from wikipedia:
See also this from 2000 from the UN saying that Israel has completely withdrawn from Lebanon:
So basically, what you're saying is that Hezbollah/Lebanon attacked unprovoked first but "since then..."
Golan Heights themselves are disputed territory, and I've never claimed otherwise. It is, however, a dispute between Israel and Syria. Israel has totally left Lebanon according to international law, which I have proven against your claims that Hezbollah's acts are justified. As far as I could find, Lebanese claims for Shebaa Farms only started after May 2000. Pretty weird that when Israel annexed it in 1981 not a peep was heard from the Lebanese government.The Sheba farms did not fall under the scope of res 425 because it was still considered disputed Lebanese-Syrian territory. What is NOT disputed is that it is NOT Israeli territory. Israel withdrew from other Lebanese territories that did not include that. Yet it remains occupying lands in contravention to UN res 242 and which would include Sheba farms (along with the Golan) and which it continually flouted along with many other UN resolutions. Glad that you use UN references because that would open a whole can of worms for anyone arguing in favor of Israeli positions.
BS. Golan is NOT disputed according to intl law, but occupied territory captured (stolen) by Israel that Israel "disputes" in the same way a bank robber would dispute his owning of the loot. Its a false dispute meant to gaslight dumb fucks into thinking otherwise. Pretty sure you are not a dumb fuck, just a zio-hasbarist in on Israels favorite mode of communicating that mostly involves shameless gaslighting.Golan Heights themselves are disputed territory, and I've never claimed otherwise. It is, however, a dispute between Israel and Syria.
Sheba was captured by Israel in the 67 war but illegally annexed by Israel later on but is still obligated to withdraw from according to international law and UN resolutions that state the "inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war".Israel has totally left Lebanon according to international law, which I have proven against your claims that Hezbollah's acts are justified. As far as I could find, Lebanese claims for Shebaa Farms only started after May 2000. Pretty weird that when Israel annexed it in 1981 not a peep was heard from the Lebanese government.
Here is a Lebanese military map from 1966, showing the farms on the Syrian side (source):
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Whats clear is your are a deceptive gaslighter hoping others will not bother to look at what you present more closely. You have been schooled well in Zio-hasbara.It's clear, as I've just demonstrated, that Hezbollah would find some other patch of land no matter what. These organizations will always find something to justify their existence. If it wasn't Shebaa Farms it would've been some other area like Misgav Am or Margaliot.
Clearly you are clueless about the issue, and you just have an agenda supporting a totally unprovoked attack by Hezbollah and Lebanon.
This is a dumb and insulting take, I have openly cited my sources. I cannot cite everything and anyone is welcome to read them.Whats clear is your are a deceptive gaslighter hoping others will not bother to look at what you present more closely. You have been schooled well in Zio-hasbara.
I did not mean to gaslight, I will say it differently and maybe my wording should have been more precise. What I meant was that the Golan Heights was part of Syria and not Lebanon. Lebanon is not a part of it, and never really was.BS. Golan is NOT disputed according to intl law, but occupied territory captured (stolen) by Israel that Israel "disputes" in the same way a bank robber would dispute his owning of the loot. Its a false dispute meant to gaslight dumb fucks into thinking otherwise. Pretty sure you are not a dumb fuck, just a zio-hasbarist in on Israels favorite mode of communicating that mostly involves shameless gaslighting.
I've already stated that it was annexed in 1981... Again, my claim is not that Israel is occupying illegal lands according to the UN (indeed, they are), it's that according to international law none of it is part of Lebanon. Until 2000s, Lebanon has never claimed that any part of it was annexed as well.Sheba was captured by Israel in the 67 war but illegally annexed by Israel later on but is still obligated to withdraw from according to international law and UN resolutions that state the "inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war".
Lebanon (as an independent country) did not exist as a country in 1932 and was only founded in 1942 and Syria (again, as an independent country) was founded in 1945 - so how are maps from the 30s relevant? The only relevant maps are those recognized by the international community. The maps in 1946, after the founding of both countries, show the Shebaa farms as part of Syria.Map or no map there have been differing Lebanese and Syrian positions on the issue over many decades. From the wiki you cite it also cites references that are contradictory and present both cases for belonging to Lebanon or Syria. Not exclusively Syrian as you try to frame your case. Again, from your referenced wiki :
Historical documents
In 2002, Asher Kaufman of the Harry S. Truman Research Institute at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, discovered previously unknown documents in French government archives. In one, French litigants in a private dispute entered into a private commercial agreement[when?] that suggested that the border should put the Farms in Lebanon. Two other documents, from 1937 and 1939, were reports from the administrative councilor of south Lebanon and the head of the Services Spéciaux in the Syrian town of Quneitra. They noted a discrepancy between the border, as determined by the 1:200,000 Ottoman map, and their view of the "reality" in the region. Collecting "unofficial information" from "various sources," they concluded that in their view the area was Lebanese. Their conclusion was based on the facts that: a) some area residents paid taxes to Lebanon; and b) three or four sheep pens in the Farms belonged to residents of the Lebanese village of Shaba.[45]
In a book published in 1988, Moshe Brawer, an Israeli geographer, mentions two French maps published in 1932 and 1946, the former shows the farm area as being part of Lebanon while the latter shows the area as a Syrian territory.[46]
I've said - the claims have only been made since 2000s. It is in Syria and Iran's best interest to have some justification for Hezbollah's existence, and Syria has also gone back and forth between them agreeing that Shebaa is part of Lebanon and not agreeing. What do they care? The land is relatively small and unimportant and it gives an excuse for Hezbollah's existance. For example according to this, Assad in 2011 said that "The Shebaa Farms Are Syrian, Whatever Hezbollah Claims".The Arab League (which includes Syria) backed Lebanon's claim with a communique issued at Arab League's 13th session in 2001, asking for "complete Israeli withdrawal from all occupied Palestinian territory, including Jerusalem, from the occupied Syrian Golan Heights to the line of 4 June 1967 and from the remaining occupied Lebanese territory up to the internationally recognized borders, including the Shab`a farmlands".[44]
Syria agrees with Lebanon that the Shebaa farms area is part of Lebanon (from one of the wiki links).
Lebanon (as an independent country) did not exist as a country in 1932 and was only founded in 1942 and Syria (again, as an independent country) was founded in 1945 - so how are maps from the 30s relevant? The only relevant maps are those recognized by the international community. The maps in 1946, after the founding of both countries, show the Shebaa farms as part of Syria.
In that article it exactly states: "...and is the predecessor of modern Lebanon."Greater Lebanon - Wikipedia
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Greater Lebanon became the Republic of Lebanon in 1943 with the same borders. You have nothing to show that territory was adjusted or re-distributed other than references to vague maps amidst numerous other contradictory maps. Dont focus on something while leaving out other vital info, incl Lebanon and Syrias positions in the Arab Leagues 2001 communique that insist on Israeli withdrawal from "remaining occupied Lebanese territory up to the internationally recognized borders, including the Shab`a farmlands".In that article it exactly states: "...and is the predecessor of modern Lebanon."
It seems people are a bit upsetIsraeli Military Police officers raided the Sde Teiman detention facility on Monday and detained nine soldiers on suspicion of abusing a Palestinian detainee. According to a security source, the detainee was taken to a hospital with severe injuries to an intimate body part – injuries that left him without the ability to walk.
A security source added that a confrontation developed between military police personnel and some of the soldiers, who refused to evacuate and barricaded themselves in the facility. Some soldiers reportedly sprayed pepper spray at the military personnel that arrived to detain the suspects.
One soldier was recorded saying: "We will unite against the IDF arresting our fellow soldiers". Some soldiers reportedly sprayed pepper spray at the military personnel that arrived to detain the suspects.
Another soldier said: "The military police came to arrest us because we are responsible for Nukhba terrorists. Every Israeli should go out into the streets for us, I am not ready for this shame that they are arresting me- I gave my life for you, for my country."
The IDF said that "following suspicion of serious abuse of a detainee who was held at the Sde Teiman detention facility, an investigation by the military police was opened by order of the military attorney's office."