Out of curiosity where would a good place have been for that rocket to be heading?
Out of curiosity where would a good place have been for that rocket to be heading?Bastards. An errant Hezbollah rocket lands in Syrian territory (Golan) and kills Syrian civs and they "retaliate" regardless. The chutzpah of the zio-fuckin-state is mind-numbing.
Any opportunity to escalate on the flimsiest of pretexts they go for it. They have a history of that. Their 1982 invasion of Lebanon was not triggered by enemy rockets or attacks on Israeli civs, but by an attempted assassination of the Israeli ambassador to the UK.
I dont think any rockets should be heading anywhere.Out of curiosity where would a good place have been for that rocket to be heading?
We are in agreement there. The thing is Hezbollah fired that rocket. It might not have gone where they wanted but once you fire it you own the consequences. Clearly they wanted to kill someone with it.I dont think any rockets should be heading anywhere.
"Clearly they wanted to kill someone" is basically synonymous with the zio-state and has been since they were established. As much revulsion as I have for Hezb, Israel is far worse in terms of disdain for human life and have it as a policy (Dahia doctine) that 'retaliation' should involve heavy loss of civilian loss as a deterrent.We are in agreement there. The thing is Hezbollah fired that rocket. It might not have gone where they wanted but once you fire it you own the consequences. Clearly they wanted to kill someone with it.
So we agree that Hezbollah’s intent was to kill people here, right? If so, can we agree that if the rocket were errant or not is irrelevant?"Clearly they wanted to kill someone" is basically synonymous with the zio-state and has been since they were established. As much revulsion as I have for Hezb, Israel is far worse in terms of disdain for human life and have it as a policy (Dahia doctine) that 'retaliation' should involve heavy loss of civilian loss as a deterrent.
When a country invades other countries territories in defiance of int'l laws and subjugates, kills and maims its populations, do they expect not to encounter resistance or retaliation?
Hezbollah killed 12 children playing in a football field but Israel are the bastards.Bastards.
According to Israeli law, those "Syrian civs" are eligible to get an Israeli citizenship if they want to (indeed, thousands of them have elected to hold an Israeli citizenship). Israel can't claim that they consider them as citizens and then abandon them.An errant Hezbollah rocket lands in Syrian territory (Golan) and kills Syrian civs and they "retaliate" regardless. The chutzpah of the zio-fuckin-state is mind-numbing.
Miss the point by a fucking mile. Israel doesnt give a rats ass about non-Jewish Syrian civs who by and large rejected Israeli citizenship. Nor do they give a crap about children where they have an established record of murdering in the tens of thousands. And even deliberately sniping them with headshots when seeing them walking around in so called safe zones.Hezbollah killed 12 children playing in a football field but Israel are the bastards.
According to Israeli law, those "Syrian civs" are eligible to get an Israeli citizenship if they want to (indeed, thousands of them have elected to hold an Israeli citizenship). Israel can't claim that they consider them as citizens and then abandon them.
It appears to me that Hezbollah killing 12 Syrian children is fine according to you, because it was just an "errant rocket" that killed some Syrian Arab children! They obviously meant to kill some Jewish kids, which would have been fine of course. The Chutzpah of those Zionists!!!
Apparently you seem more inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to Israelis who "dont intend" to kill people? By and large Hezb has fired mostly on Israeli military targets throughout most of their tit-for-tat engagements since Oct last year. Israel purposely fires to kill civs (as well as combatants obviously) as a matter of policy, for extra deterrence value. Are you OK with that?So we agree that Hezbollah’s intent was to kill people here, right? If so, can we agree that if the rocket were errant or not is irrelevant?
I’m not inclined to give anyone the benefit of the doubt but thank you for admitting that Hezbollah fires at civilian targets.Apparently you seem more inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to Israelis who "dont intend" to kill people? By and large Hezb has fired mostly on Israeli military targets throughout most of their tit-for-tat engagements since Oct last year. Israel purposely fires to kill civs (as well as combatants obviously) as a matter of policy, for extra deterrence value. Are you OK with that?
You are twisting my words, read my post you quoted again. What I said:I’m not inclined to give anyone the benefit of the doubt but thank you for admitting that Hezbollah fires at civilian targets.
Israel has plenty of blood on its hands here, but unlike you I can admit so do its enemies.
Geez. I wonder who Israel will come begging to when Iran has finally had enough.Preliminary reports another Iranian terrorist general (General Ali Hajizadeh) leading terrorist proxies in Syria against Israel has been eliminated.. It has not yet confirmed but allegedly Israel just took out General Amir Ali Hajizadeh which may lead to war with Iran and possibly WW3.
I have said that Israel’s actions here went far beyond what was warranted in retaliation for Hamas’ horrifying terror attack, but military action here was certainly appropriate. Regardless, what Russia is doing is far worse in that it was both unprovoked and of vastly larger scale.You are twisting my words, read my post you quoted again. What I said:
By and large Hezb has fired mostly on Israeli military targets throughout most of their tit-for-tat engagements since Oct last year.
I am sure occasionally missiles or rockets may hit civs but that is in stark contrast to Israelis who kill civs deliberately in large scale bombing campaigns. There may have been radical elements amongst Hezb who deliberately targetted civs in isolated incidents over the decades but they are rare.
But in the overall context of Israel-Pal-Lebanon conflicts, civ killing has been so lopsided to one side doing it (Israel) that it beggars belief that one would be mostly quiet to it while focusing on Hezb only.
You can both-sides it by saying "Israel has plenty of blood on its hands... so do its enemies", but again, the scale and lopsided nature of the equation can only put your moral compass into question.
If you expressed outrage at Russias actions in the Ukraine thread but remain silent to Israels actions in this thread, I can only say you are a fucking hypocrite.
Yes it would be nice but in reality the terrorist set up shop in schools, hospitals, and dense urban areas... shooting rockets from those dense urban areas to Israel there is no way to avoid casualties when repercussions take place.. Yes they should not use large bombs which does damage to a large area and should utilize more precise smaller bombs. Either way civilians will be hurt and killed because Hamas is not setup in some military building but amongst civilian infrastructure imbedded with the regular population.It would be so nice if Israel targeted actual Hamas members instead of mass bombing areas with 2,000 lb bombs that U.S. military officers are very reluctant to use because of the large fatality radius.
but I have seen from some posts that other members actually like Israel murdering the shit out of brown people.
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I wouldn’t argue. Amenx is so consumed by hatred they are irrational. Justifying the firing of rockets being sent to military targets but hitting civilian targets is ok so there shouldn’t be retaliation is the single dumbest thing I ever read.I have said that Israel’s actions here went far beyond what was warranted in retaliation for Hamas’ horrifying terror attack, but military action here was certainly appropriate. Regardless, what Russia is doing is far worse in that it was both unprovoked and of vastly larger scale.
As far as what I’m focusing on your extreme bias is making you see things that aren’t there. I just found it funny that you were trying to excuse Hezbollah’s actions.
Nope, I'm merely responding to your equal both-siding of the parties when Hezbollas actions pale into comparison with Israels actions. You do not acknowledge that and seem to view that large scale killing campaigns Israel engages in are no worse than how Hezb conducts itself.I have said that Israel’s actions here went far beyond what was warranted in retaliation for Hamas’ horrifying terror attack, but military action here was certainly appropriate. Regardless, what Russia is doing is far worse in that it was both unprovoked and of vastly larger scale.
As far as what I’m focusing on your extreme bias is making you see things that aren’t there. I just found it funny that you were trying to excuse Hezbollah’s actions.
I take it then that if someone shoots a member of your family from within thousands of innocent other people, you would be entitled to kill them all to eliminate that one individual? Seems to me that there must be some other reason for justifying all that killing, like maybe you want their land? Can you see killing all those people just to get even with one? How morally absurd does one have to be to fall for that bullshit?Yes it would be nice but in reality the terrorist set up shop in schools, hospitals, and dense urban areas... shooting rockets from those dense urban areas to Israel there is no way to avoid casualties when repercussions take place.. Yes they should not use large bombs which does damage to a large area and should utilize more precise smaller bombs. Either way civilians will be hurt and killed because Hamas is not setup in some military building but amongst civilian infrastructure imbedded with the regular population.
Nope, you too have a misunderstanding of the points being made. Not justifying anything. Only providing context. Israel uses such incidents as opportunities to further its strategic and military aims vs its adversaries. It doesnt give a shit about non-Jewish, non-Israeli civs killed by errant rockets but find them as useful PR to cover for their retaliations. But be stupid all you want in not figuring that out.I wouldn’t argue. Amenx is so consumed by hatred they are irrational. Justifying the firing of rockets being sent to military targets but hitting civilian targets is ok so there shouldn’t be retaliation is the single dumbest thing I ever read.
Your fire the weapon you own all the consequences.
I'm not sure where you hallucinated this idea into being but it has nothing to do with my views on the subject.Nope, I'm merely responding to your equal both-siding of the parties when Hezbollas actions pale into comparison with Israels actions. You do not acknowledge that and seem to view that large scale killing campaigns Israel engages in are no worse than how Hezb conducts itself.
This is incomprehensible word salad. That being said, kudos to you for attempting to #bothsides things with something from nearly half a century ago.Were you even aware if Israels 1982 Lebanon invasion that gave birth to Hezb? That was unprovoked. I could argue of you having an extreme bias towards in favor of the Israelis.
I'm not sure where this hallucination came from either but you seem to be having some sort of episode. I'm very sad that you have such a low opinion of my intelligence as you clearly come off as a smart, sane guy.I recall early in this thread you saying something so stupid that I just rolled my eyes. You seem to have developed an anti-Pal bias when learning of Pal kids happily dancing around after the 9-11 attacks. Having been on the receiving end of tons of bombs supplied by the US that killed their parents, destroyed their villages, hospitals, schools, infrastructure and enabled the Israelis to steal their lands and impose a horrific apartheid system upon them, how did you think they were going to react??? From that moment on I knew you were a fucking lightweight in the brains dept. And which I think plays a big part in your overall bias on the conflict.
I would think its incomprehensible word salad to lightweights who cant figure the connection of a major event that killed 10s of thousands of Leb civs to todays events vis-a-vis Israel and Hezb. Its pretty much ingrained in the psyche of Hezb who view the Zionists as the epitome of evil.I'm not sure where you hallucinated this idea into being but it has nothing to do with my views on the subject.
This is incomprehensible word salad. That being said, kudos to you for attempting to #bothsides things with something from nearly half a century ago.
I'm not sure where this hallucination came from either but you seem to be having some sort of episode. I'm very sad that you have such a low opinion of my intelligence as you clearly come off as a smart, sane guy.