Israel: We Are At War

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KMFJD

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Schools are Hamas. Could Israel be convinced that all Israeli command centres have Hamas command centres in?

at least 110 people murdered, but israel has the right to defend itself !

Thankfully Joe just released another 3.5 billion in funds so israel can defend itself.....also sent them more jdams....you know, so that they can defend themselves.....



plucky israel punching above it's weight yet again!
 
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Thankfully Joe just released another 3.5 billion in funds so israel can defend itself.....also sent them more jdams....you know, so that they can defend themselves.....
Technically, Biden would be violating the law to stop the funds, he can’t ignore congress. At least Biden didn’t make a “perfect” call to Bibi asking for quid pro quo to release funds as required by law.
 
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Sure, however, technically the Leahy act should be followed as well, but loopholes and other legal bullshit.....
 

amenx

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Sure, however, technically the Leahy act should be followed as well, but loopholes and other legal bullshit.....
State Dept official who was in charge of "vetting of foreign security units" for violations explains the laborious, lengthy process when it comes to Israel, who in the end get away with virtually anything.

 
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If anyone in the US were aware of the extent to which Israel controls their country's laws, foreign policy and media, they would vote out every scoundrel who supported this rogue state in an instant.

Added to the AIPAC "naughty list". It's not just here. I recently saw a video about the AIJAC in Australia, because they have such a large jewish population I'm sure... I'm glad more people are becoming aware of those sneaky fucks.
 
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As we have seen on numerous occasions with the IDF targeting civilian sustenance resources, food, water supplies (water tanks blown up) contributing to unhygienic conditions and the spread of disease which all amount to acts of genocide, they are back to doing what they are most known for, outright killing of civilians and lying about Hamas command centers.


and a UN report on latest massacre

 
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amenx

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Dont know how I missed this (from last March). Was he an anti-semitic, terrorist supporting Israeli?

Former Israeli secret service Shin Bet director Ami Ayalon says that if he were a Palestinian living in the West Bank or Gaza, he would fight against Israel to achieve his liberty and would do everything possible to attain it....

 

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Israel is waging war on humanity....



the image from from the page cropped with windows snipping tool



Tell me you can look at this and not feel that there is an injustice that this country is at least in some part responsible for regardless of what happened on Oct 07.

Have you all forgotten the largely non-violent demonstrations in 2018 when snipers were shooting at demonstrators who were very much in the large majority unarmed. unless you count thrown rocks and a few incidents of burning tires rolled toward the fence?
Yes some of you have. And you will reply to defend this. and make excuses for the sniper fire in 2018 and nevermind that you would rather be armed with a long range rifle rather than burning tires and rocks and other thrown items.

Democracy now coverage of the March of Return in 2018



*edited to add* by the bolded part. I mean the USA we have watched, our leaders have watched the murders happen in the middle east and the vast majority of the population of USA (myself included) does not near enough to stop the genocide.

But at least some of us don't condone and approve of it.



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Something else I missed couple weeks back. Church of England goes against Israel.

In a statement today welcoming the International Court of Justice’s Advisory Opinion on Israel’s presence in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, the Archbishop of Canterbury has urged governments around the world to reverse the "deeply damaging trend" of upholding international law "in a selective manner".

Archbishop Justin Welby says the State of Israel has been “denying the Palestinian people dignity, freedom and hope” – and that ending its occupation of Palestinian territory is “a legal and moral necessity”...
 

KMFJD

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i'm sure they will be investigated thouroughly by themselves.....

Haaretz Investigation: Israeli Army Uses Palestinian Civilians to Inspect Potentially Booby-trapped Tunnels in Gaza​

'Our lives are more important than their lives': Gazans not suspected of terrorism are detained and sent as human shields to search tunnels and houses before IDF soldiers enter, in the full knowledge of senior Israeli officers, several sources say; IDF claims this practice is forbidden.

At first it's hard to recognize them. They're usually wearing Israeli army uniforms, many of them are in their 20s, and they're always with Israeli soldiers of various ranks.

But if you look more closely, you see that most of them are wearing sneakers, not army boots. And their hands are cuffed behind their backs and their faces are full of fear. The soldiers call each of them a shawish, an obscure Arabic word of Turkish origin meaning sergeants.


Random Palestinians have been used by Israeli army units in the Gaza Strip for one purpose: to serve as human shields for soldiers during operations.

 

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Some of the shit they are doing to prisoners

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...9b-ff994cb40000
https://archive.md/WoS6k

Haaretz interviewed 8 soldiers who served at Sde Teiman

"They [the detainees] sit only within the area of the mattress and all the time with manacles and blindfolded. And you grasp what this does to them. You absolutely see the difference between the new arrivals and the ones who have been there for weeks. People lose it under such conditions. I did an experiment at home, with an air conditioner, on the carpet. I wanted to check. I sat with a kerchief on my head, without handcuffs and not hungry. Just with a blindfold and a watch that would buzz in an hour. After 10 minutes I felt like I wanted to die. After another 10 minutes I cracked.

"Imagine that, day after day, a week, a month. I have the feeling that because the state is afraid they will return to Gaza one day, they decided to turn them into zombies. They took these people and decided to screw them to the point where, in another 50 years, when they're walking on the street in Gaza, people will point at them and say, 'You see him, that poor guy… many years ago, he decided to attack Israel.'
 

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I'm surprised the rest of the church hierarchy didn't turn on him (many bishops, especially the guy in Boston, have criticized francis' instructions and commentary in the past)
He's removed one and given warnings to a few others while appointing less conservative ones, but as a whole the US Catholic hierarchy is conservative and not fond of him


 

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One month into the Gaza war, New York Times standards desk editor Susan Wessling in a November 2023 memo to the staff of the “paper of record” wrote: “Words like ‘slaughter,’ ‘massacre’ and ‘carnage’ often convey more emotion than information”... adding “Think hard before using [words like ‘slaughter’] in our own voice.”

No such guidance was offered to those covering the Ukraine conflict...





 

trenchfoot

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I've always wondered how the Hamas fighters were differentiated from the non-combatant Palestinians when it came to....well, body counts from an encounter and why it is that even after the Israeli military gave warnings to evacuate a certain building or area where an assault will be made, there's always so many civilian deaths involved without any explanation from the media as to why that is.

Lastly, I've noticed how most if not all of the news media outlets will not release any information as to how many Hamas fighters were POW'd, wounded or KIA'd in any specific clash between Hamas and the Israelis.

I've not made any guesses as to why that is because there's no way I could know the underlying factors and hidden agendas among the interested parties involved in this war, yet it did pique my interest as to the aforementioned issues.

Not taking sides on this, just mentioning a few oddities as to how this conflict is being reported.
 
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